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Offline b23

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5850 on: August 15, 2016, 10:44:21 PM »
I wonder if the visa thing will become more of an issue once we're out of the EU and the current freedom of movement rules change

Well if we signed a trade agreement with Australia and New Zealand (has been mooted) it would make this one easier.

We can't even begin to negotiate one until we leave (2 and a half years at the earliest). China said if we had 600 negotiators like they have it would take ten years to agree one with them. We have 24, who have to negotiate our exit from EU, our future relationship with EU, the 50-odd existing trade deals we currently have through the EU, replacing trade deals we have with the 27 remaining EU members and the replacement for the hugely complex legislation that is the Commin Agricultural Policy.

I think he might be a bit past it by the time we get round to bothering to negotiate new agreements about the relatively tiny bit of trade we'll do with Australia and New Zealand.

Or probably in a home.

That clears it all up then.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5851 on: August 15, 2016, 11:49:47 PM »
I wonder if the visa thing will become more of an issue once we're out of the EU and the current freedom of movement rules change

Well if we signed a trade agreement with Australia and New Zealand (has been mooted) it would make this one easier.

We can't even begin to negotiate one until we leave (2 and a half years at the earliest). China said if we had 600 negotiators like they have it would take ten years to agree one with them. We have 24, who have to negotiate our exit from EU, our future relationship with EU, the 50-odd existing trade deals we currently have through the EU, replacing trade deals we have with the 27 remaining EU members and the replacement for the hugely complex legislation that is the Commin Agricultural Policy.

I think he might be a bit past it by the time we get round to bothering to negotiate new agreements about the relatively tiny bit of trade we'll do with Australia and New Zealand.

Or probably in a home.

That clears it all up then.

There must have been half a dozen posters trying to explain something really simple to you in another thread the other day, and you still didn't get it.

I know, I know - it's not a general election.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5852 on: August 15, 2016, 11:50:57 PM »
Is the reported Bamford deal a loan or permanent?

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5853 on: August 15, 2016, 11:55:11 PM »
Is the reported Bamford deal a loan or permanent?
The last few days it has been reported as a loan.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5854 on: August 16, 2016, 12:36:33 AM »
Think it is time for Chelsea to sell him as he is not getting football at Chelsea.

Offline footyskillz

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5855 on: August 16, 2016, 02:47:48 AM »
Think it is time for Chelsea to sell him as he is not getting football at Chelsea.

Similar Victor Moses.  He's a place filler.  Always goes away on holiday tours with Chelsea squad then latter days of window makes a loan move to some dwindling but deluded aspirational prem club . Likes a tour of uk Liverpool Stoke West ham . Wouldn't mind him at villa but seems to attract premier league . Bamford what I hear and see doesn't even get that much action.  Was unlucky at palace and Norwich last season but was more than capable with Boro. A confidence player and needs to ne in right set up. Hopefully rdm and Stevie Clark can bring him on.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5856 on: August 16, 2016, 07:26:04 AM »
If we do get De Laet and Bamford in, then I think you would be hard pushed to have asked for a better transfer window.  Experience in Tommy, Chester, Jedinak and McCormack through the spine, potential in Bamford and Tishbola but already shown they are quality at this level, a right back that's not Hutton and what looks to me a very promising young keeper. 

Maybe a creative midfielder and a winger light of ideal but way stronger than the end of the season.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5857 on: August 16, 2016, 07:39:05 AM »
If we do get De Laet and Bamford in, then I think you would be hard pushed to have asked for a better transfer window.  Experience in Tommy, Chester, Jedinak and McCormack through the spine, potential in Bamford and Tishbola but already shown they are quality at this level, a right back that's not Hutton and what looks to me a very promising young keeper. 

Maybe a creative midfielder and a winger light of ideal but way stronger than the end of the season.

Generally agree, but to add a note of caution.  My guess is the this level of spending will put us beyond the FFP criteria, therefore if we do net get promoted next summer* then we could face sanctions the following year.  As a lot of the signed players will have limited sell-on value we might face having to sell the Ayew/Grealish/"crown jewels" to balance the books.

That said, I don't think there was a realistic alternative option.

*I cannot remember the club but a recently promoted team overspent based on their championship earnings but the extra TV money in the PL meant they escaped sanction.

Offline murfee

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5858 on: August 16, 2016, 07:43:16 AM »
Im sure i read somewhere that FFP doesnt count under the first year of new ownership. I may be wrong.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5859 on: August 16, 2016, 07:59:40 AM »
I think Bournemouth were the club Dante.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5860 on: August 16, 2016, 08:44:52 AM »
Im sure i read somewhere that FFP doesnt count under the first year of new ownership. I may be wrong.

Yes, I keep posting it, but can't remember if I've read any confirmation in reply.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5861 on: August 16, 2016, 08:46:42 AM »
If we do get De Laet and Bamford in, then I think you would be hard pushed to have asked for a better transfer window.  Experience in Tommy, Chester, Jedinak and McCormack through the spine, potential in Bamford and Tishbola but already shown they are quality at this level, a right back that's not Hutton and what looks to me a very promising young keeper. 

Maybe a creative midfielder and a winger light of ideal but way stronger than the end of the season.

Generally agree, but to add a note of caution.  My guess is the this level of spending will put us beyond the FFP criteria, therefore if we do net get promoted next summer* then we could face sanctions the following year.  As a lot of the signed players will have limited sell-on value we might face having to sell the Ayew/Grealish/"crown jewels" to balance the books.

That said, I don't think there was a realistic alternative option.

*I cannot remember the club but a recently promoted team overspent based on their championship earnings but the extra TV money in the PL meant they escaped sanction.

Surely the parachute payments will cover the outlay?

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5862 on: August 16, 2016, 08:47:27 AM »
If we do get De Laet and Bamford in, then I think you would be hard pushed to have asked for a better transfer window.  Experience in Tommy, Chester, Jedinak and McCormack through the spine, potential in Bamford and Tishbola but already shown they are quality at this level, a right back that's not Hutton and what looks to me a very promising young keeper. 

Maybe a creative midfielder and a winger light of ideal but way stronger than the end of the season.

Generally agree, but to add a note of caution.  My guess is the this level of spending will put us beyond the FFP criteria, therefore if we do net get promoted next summer* then we could face sanctions the following year.  As a lot of the signed players will have limited sell-on value we might face having to sell the Ayew/Grealish/"crown jewels" to balance the books.

That said, I don't think there was a realistic alternative option.

*I cannot remember the club but a recently promoted team overspent based on their championship earnings but the extra TV money in the PL meant they escaped sanction.

Bournemouth received a £7m fine, and presumably laughed as they peeled £50 notes from their £100m+ Premier League windfall.

Middlesbrough will be dealt with similarly harshly this year.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5863 on: August 16, 2016, 09:00:45 AM »
I imagine it could bite if the gamble doesn't pay off though.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5864 on: August 16, 2016, 09:26:23 AM »
I imagine it could bite if the gamble doesn't pay off though.

In terms of our total income and spending ability, don't forget that us, Norwich and Newcastle are each £40m up this season alone because of the first parachute payment.

That's a lot of extra spending power.

 


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