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Offline mallo

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5805 on: August 15, 2016, 10:18:20 AM »
The only reservation I would have about Diawara would be that he's going to take a while to get up to speed with the frenetic championship - there's a lot of time on the ball in that youtube clip, but he's good technically and is very quick. As long as it reduces the changes of Gardner or Westwood turning up on the pitch I'm all for it.

Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5806 on: August 15, 2016, 10:34:01 AM »
Think we need about three more signings myself.  Two midfielders, one a defensive, tough tackling type who is also tidy on the ball, and the other a creative player with a little bit of pace who can score a few as well as create them.  And I still think we need at least one good full back signing. 

Would be good to get the Jedinak signing done this week if it is happening. 

Okore is a lesson to all of us about how good limited video evidence can be when judging a player.

He had the game of his life against Chelsea that evening.

We haven't seen anything like that in a Villa shirt.

One thing that always seems to get overlooked from the YouTube montage of that game against Chelsea, is that Nordsjælland actually lost the game 4-0!![/b]

Oh right so we're playing the Okore is suddenly a bad player card now are we? ::) He's a good player, but anyone would look medicore in the Villa team of the last few seasons.  His attitude was bad at the end of last season, and I am happy for Chester and Elphick to play ahead of him, but us being in the Championship and his antics at the end of last season doesn't reflect on his on field talent.

Offline RussellC

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5807 on: August 15, 2016, 10:40:57 AM »
Oh right so we're playing the Okore is suddenly a bad player card now are we? ::) He's a good player, but anyone would look medicore in the Villa team of the last few seasons.  His attitude was bad at the end of last season, and I am happy for Chester and Elphick to play ahead of him, but us being in the Championship and his antics at the end of last season doesn't reflect on his on field talent.

Not wanting to hijack another thread with a rant about Okore, but seriously, you're going have to show me some evidence of this "on field talent" because all I've seen in a Villa shirt is a very poor Centre-Back. He looked way, way out of his depth against a League 2 side last week, never mind starting in The Championship.
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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5808 on: August 15, 2016, 10:41:26 AM »
I take it you didn't see his performance against Luton then? That certainly wasn't a performance of a "good player" by any stretch of the imagination.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5809 on: August 15, 2016, 10:44:08 AM »
And Okore must be about the 10th player that I've seen absolved of blame for last season because "he played in a poor team". The team was poor because of the likes of Okore, not in-spite of them!!

Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5810 on: August 15, 2016, 10:47:40 AM »
I take it you didn't see his performance against Luton then? That certainly wasn't a performance of a "good player" by any stretch of the imagination.

No he's been rubbish this season, but then I think that is down to him not wanting to be at the club anymore and having a poor attitude.  The thing for me is you would stuggle to count on one hand the Villa players who have played well over the last 2-3 seasons.  And of course you can't make excuses for the playersm, but like I said the club has been so dire during that time and he is still young player so I kinda understand how his confidence would be a bit low.  I still think he's done pretty well when he has played.

Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5811 on: August 15, 2016, 10:50:27 AM »
And Okore must be about the 10th player that I've seen absolved of blame for last season because "he played in a poor team". The team was poor because of the likes of Okore, not in-spite of them!!

But I would blame the likes of Gabby, Richards, Lescott who have far more experience ahead of Okore.  And the point stands they club has struggled because of mis-management at board level and a string of poor managers.  Yes most of the players were awful last season, but the decline had been setting in a long time before then.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5812 on: August 15, 2016, 11:07:27 AM »
I think Baker and Okore are good enough cover at centre-half. Get de Laet in and we can dispense with Richards, Hutton and Lescott for good.

Two midfielders in, then sell Westwood.

Maybe buy a striker.

That would do for me. Lots of bad vibes gone.

Sorry, just thinking aloud.


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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5813 on: August 15, 2016, 11:23:11 AM »
Getting rid of the (rest of the) deadwood is as important as bringing in players.

Not just for the wage bill, just the mentality and tone of the club.

Okore has time to atone - he may never be good enough but we need to bin Gabby, Richards and Lescott first.

Offline RussellC

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5814 on: August 15, 2016, 11:26:18 AM »
And Okore must be about the 10th player that I've seen absolved of blame for last season because "he played in a poor team". The team was poor because of the likes of Okore, not in-spite of them!!

But I would blame the likes of Gabby, Richards, Lescott who have far more experience ahead of Okore.  And the point stands they club has struggled because of mis-management at board level and a string of poor managers.  Yes most of the players were awful last season, but the decline had been setting in a long time before then.

For all of his faults off the pitch, I think Lescott was actually our best centre-back last season. Agreed, that Gabby and Richards should shoulder more of the blame, but Okore was still diabolical on a number of occasions.

He's been a central figure in some of our most horrendous defeats in recent years (the thrashing at St Mary's, 6-0 at home to Liverpool, numerous dickings by Arsenal) and ahs looked way out of his depth on each occasion. I can honestly say that I've never come away from a game having thought he'd played well or looked anything other than decidedly dodgy.

Like Clark, his win-percentage in a Villa shirt must be horrifically low (I'm too scared to even attempt to Google it!) and 'that goal' against Luton last week will only have damaged him further. Elphick is conclusive evidence of how far intelligence and a strong mentality can get you as a Centre-Back and Okore has consistently failed to display either of these.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5815 on: August 15, 2016, 11:29:41 AM »
I take it you didn't see his performance against Luton then? That certainly wasn't a performance of a "good player" by any stretch of the imagination.

No he's been rubbish this season, but then I think that is down to him not wanting to be at the club anymore and having a poor attitude.  The thing for me is you would stuggle to count on one hand the Villa players who have played well over the last 2-3 seasons.  And of course you can't make excuses for the playersm, but like I said the club has been so dire during that time and he is still young player so I kinda understand how his confidence would be a bit low.  I still think he's done pretty well when he has played.

Okore actually played in our best defensive run of the season...clean sheets v Norwich, West Brom and Palace and we only conceded 1 goal v Leicester in that period aswell.

Then it all collapsed during the Liverpool game but we didn't see him much after that. He was shocking v Luton, don't think anyone's going to argue that.

I would still keep him around though...in last year of his contract so hardly anyone will bid or want him. Just keep him as cover as 4th choice.

Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5816 on: August 15, 2016, 12:49:01 PM »
Diawara I think would be one for the future, looking to get back up this year, maybe a major player for us on our return, having had a settling in period this season.
Jedi would be very nice and add that much needed steel, De Latt a bonus, but as stated we need to dispense of a good few, get Gabby, Richards, Lescott, Westwood and a few others out on loan, or middling fees and remember we still have our own loans to use if required, I think if they spunk out big bucks for Diawara, Jedi loans would be the way to go for two others.

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5817 on: August 15, 2016, 12:52:46 PM »
New signing to be announced after tomorrow's game according to the Doc

As we can't complete all paper works before tomorrow,we'll announce after tomorrow's game! Hope all u will be happy!

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5818 on: August 15, 2016, 02:04:21 PM »
Jedinak, £4 million, medical and visa to sorted.

Offline mallo

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #5819 on: August 15, 2016, 02:08:04 PM »
Supposedly Jedinak £4M if the jungle drums are to be believed.

 


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