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Offline avfcpg

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4365 on: August 02, 2016, 05:26:25 PM »
McCormack, Jedinak, Morrison and Kodija would make such a difference to us...not world beaters but that's the aisle we are shopping in now.

Ravel Morrison?


If so I'd take the last 3, Jedinak is cheap and experienced and the other 2 are talented and young enough to get better.

If I tohught we were going to get rid of Gestede, Gabby and Kozak I'd take RM to repalce 1 of them along with 2 more athletic options to give us some pace and a focal point, RM is just another striker who isn't very good at finding space in the box and doesn't hold the ball up very well.  Yes he can take a decent free kick and he's good at the edge of the box but he's really not the player we need right now, Kodija is a far better option.
Yes Ravel...hugely talented if he can sort himself out...

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4366 on: August 02, 2016, 05:27:44 PM »
Jedinak is the leader we keep talking about. Go and get him RDM, now! Him and Tshibola as the two would be far better than Bacuna and Westwood. McCormack might be overpriced but I guess we need him.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4367 on: August 02, 2016, 05:29:45 PM »
Wasn't there something written about McCormack from Fulham fans complaining about his professionalism? £12m is a hell of a lot for a 30 year old.

I realise the season hasn't started yet but losing Gueye and Clark weakens a significantly shite effort from last season. I confess I know nothing about Elphick, but we are taking a punt on a young player having played a handful of games for Reading to shore up what has been a dreadful midfield for a while now.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4368 on: August 02, 2016, 05:33:44 PM »
Wasn't there something written about McCormack from Fulham fans complaining about his professionalism? £12m is a hell of a lot for a 30 year old.

I realise the season hasn't started yet but losing Gueye and Clark weakens a significantly shite effort from last season. I confess I know nothing about Elphick, but we are taking a punt on a young player having played a handful of games for Reading to shore up what has been a dreadful midfield for a while now.

Yep I remember some reference to him turning up fat after pre-season.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4369 on: August 02, 2016, 05:37:00 PM »
Wasn't there something written about McCormack from Fulham fans complaining about his professionalism? £12m is a hell of a lot for a 30 year old.

I realise the season hasn't started yet but losing Gueye and Clark weakens a significantly shite effort from last season. I confess I know nothing about Elphick, but we are taking a punt on a young player having played a handful of games for Reading to shore up what has been a dreadful midfield for a while now.

Yep I remember some reference to him turning up fat after pre-season.

Maybe he will be Gabby's slimming partner.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4370 on: August 02, 2016, 05:37:28 PM »
Defoe looks in incredibly good shape. He runs faster in his goal celebrations than anyone we have up front does during games!
Yeah I don't think you can pigeon hole players at 30 anymore, well some of them. Vardy is 30 in 4-5 months time and he's just had the best season of his life and I'm sure if he doesn't score as many this season he will still get plenty.

I'm not pigeon holing every player at that age as plenty have no problems, I am saying it's a pretty risky signing for a second division club, especially if we don't go straight up. And it's the kind of signing that fucked us under the previous owner.

Then again Bamford would be potentially risky as he's scored less goals in the last year than Gabby. So is Kodija, he's 27 soon and has 2 good seasons in his career according to Wiki, so much the same as Rudy.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4371 on: August 02, 2016, 05:37:31 PM »
If I'm honest it's the "but if it gets us up" bit that I disagree with.  I don't mind us paying big money for a signing with no sell on if it means we go straight back up.  My real concern is that McCormack has been deified by some who were all calling for us to sign Gestede last season after he scored a few.  I don't see the same limitations in RM but I do see an alarming number of them and think we're looking at paying 2-3x what he's actually worth and he won't be enough to make any signficant difference to us.  I'm very worried that if this goes ahead we're making almost exactly the same mistake that Fulham did when they went down and it's largely a repeat of our striker signing last summer.
But you can see at Blackburn that Gestede was a one trick pony, even a one hit wonder, whilst McCormack does have a lot more going on in his game and has consistently scored at this level.

Personally I don't understand the fans consistent worry on how much is too much on a footballers value. It's not coming out of my wage nor part of my pension fund. If the money is there to be spent then spend it otherwise nothing will ever happen and it will only be the start of a new topic come the end of the season to why we didn't buy McCormack and newly promoted Norwich did.

But we have to spend money wisely, we need to make sure we get value from the players we sign...
It might not be your money but it's the clubs money and if they waste it now and then fail to make it back to the PL you can forget making big money signings in the future...
The club better make the right decisions especially now...

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4372 on: August 02, 2016, 05:39:29 PM »
Wasn't there something written about McCormack from Fulham fans complaining about his professionalism? £12m is a hell of a lot for a 30 year old.

I realise the season hasn't started yet but losing Gueye and Clark weakens a significantly shite effort from last season. I confess I know nothing about Elphick, but we are taking a punt on a young player having played a handful of games for Reading to shore up what has been a dreadful midfield for a while now.

Yep I remember some reference to him turning up fat after pre-season.

Not quite as bad as driving your Range Rover into railings whilst pissed though.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4373 on: August 02, 2016, 05:55:00 PM »
Right now the squad looks worse than last season, and I don't think playing championship teams every week is enough of a counterbalance

We need to start getting players in. Yes, it is harder in the championship but Newcastle seem to be doing it.

We keep telling ourselves we are a big club. Well we need to start acting like one. No sign of that this window yet. Here's hoping that changes soon.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4374 on: August 02, 2016, 06:01:09 PM »
There is an assumption that Newcastle are a temporary fixture in this league. It's clear we don't benefit from that the same assumption and that must translate into the minds of prospective players.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4375 on: August 02, 2016, 06:04:55 PM »
There is an assumption that Newcastle are a temporary fixture in this league. It's clear we don't benefit from that the same assumption and that must translate into the minds of prospective players.
who would want to join this squad? I think the biggest problem is that we still have most of the players that did massive damage to our status and reputation.
Whilst we are stuck with them, we are stuck.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4376 on: August 02, 2016, 06:07:17 PM »
There is an assumption that Newcastle are a temporary fixture in this league. It's clear we don't benefit from that the same assumption and that must translate into the minds of prospective players.

Agreed. We have been slow so far this summer, RDM has a point to prove and needs to get his skates on. This is a terrible Villa side, needs creativity in handling the transfer market and in the way we act.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4377 on: August 02, 2016, 06:10:36 PM »
A key difference between RM and Gestede last year is that RM has a proven and consistent track record in this league.

That logic does suggest gestede may also be able score quite a lot in this league. I suspect with more confidence and the right team set up he could. I just don't want us to set up that way

With RM I still think we need a pacey no 9, unless RHM really is ready. I'm not convinced he is

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4378 on: August 02, 2016, 06:10:49 PM »
We keep telling ourselves we are a big club. Well we need to start acting like one. No sign of that this window yet. Here's hoping that changes soon.

Amen.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #4379 on: August 02, 2016, 06:11:19 PM »
Excellent. The cull continues.

 


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