Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions

[villan from luton]

Tin hat on, but if we can get a tune out of Richards, he and Amavi could do really well for us in the Championship.

If Richards is fit and has the right attitude, he will be the best right back by a mile, ditto Amavi

[Dante Lavelli]

By the way Chris, I can possibly say it. It's called an opinion. You have one and so do I.

What makes you think Gabby is getting another chance?  (apologies if obvious on another thread).

[peter w]

We were not so much relegated as obliterated.  To compound our woe we had a civil war raging in the dressing room instigated by players filled with malice. A number of those players are still on the payroll.  The third threat that makes scoffing at the Championship sides unwise is that we have no tangible proof yet that the new owner and the new management team actually have taken on board the fundamental truths that we the loyal supporters have known for five or six seasons.

That's the worry. That nothing has really changed. It might. but the second-half against Middlesbrough suggested that it could be another long season ahead. I can't remember the last time that i felt any genuine pre-season excitement rather than an air of 'here we go again' trepidation. I'm not jumping off bridges just yet because it is still July. I expect to lose next week, and fairly convincingly so, which, in the long-run may not be the worst thing.

[Toronto Villa]

You do realize that we are playing in the Championship where the vast majority of teams will be worse than us right?

I think that's a pretty dangerous assumption to make.

If we'd got relegated last year in a traditional "just failed to squeak staying up" style, then maybe, but we didn't, we had a comedy relegation - 17 points. That's how godawful we were. I would be extremely wary of making too many assumptions about other teams being worse than us.

Not really a dangerous assumption at all. For us not to be better than than the vast majority of sides in the Championship next season we'd need to finish lower than 8th or so by my estimation. Let's see how this turns out shall we? As disappointing as yesterday's pre season game turned out I'm not about to start discussing relegation odds, and irrespective of how last season ended.

There's so much that is different about the club and so much road in front of us to make changes and improve. Most teams by the end of the window won't have come close to what we will have spent. I'm not about to dismiss the need for those players to bed in, but playing against lower grade opposition will ensure that this happens faster.

There are clearly holes to fill, but unless we have been completely lied to I expect that the new board and manager will have addressed many of those needs by the time the window closes.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

Tin hat on, but if we can get a tune out of Richards, he and Amavi could do really well for us in the Championship.

If Richards is fit and has the right attitude, he will be the best right back by a mile, ditto Amavi

i sit in the lower north and have had the misfortune of seeing richards 'play' at right back at close quarters. i dont think ive ever seen a player with less positional sense or awareness of what is going on around them

[Toronto Villa]

Tin hat on, but if we can get a tune out of Richards, he and Amavi could do really well for us in the Championship.

If Richards is fit and has the right attitude, he will be the best right back by a mile, ditto Amavi

i sit in the lower north and have had the misfortune of see richards 'play' at right back back. i dont think ive ever seen a player with less positional sense or awareness of what is going on around them

I agree with a lot of that, but I also a big part of that is the don't give a fuck attitude he carried around with him. I think he's a better player than he showed but at the very top level of sport so much is mental. And he and many others showed little or no application last season that it seriously impacted the physical side of their game.

[PaulWinch again]

I think we need 3/4 players plus a few leaving and we'll be very competitive.

[Steve67]

I think we need 3/4 players plus a few leaving and we'll be very competitive.

We simply have to replace the players who are not physically strong enough to compete in this division.  Westwood and Bacuna for starters.  They have not yet bottomed out and found their true level.  I'm sure both Clarke and RDM see that the lack of pace and power is a problem and will hopefully address this shortly.

[Dante Lavelli]

I think we need 3/4 players plus a few leaving and we'll be very competitive.

We simply have to replace the players who are not physically strong enough to compete in this division.  Westwood and Bacuna for starters.  They have not yet bottomed out and found their true level.  I'm sure both Clarke and RDM see that the lack of pace and power is a problem and will hopefully address this shortly.

I disagree, not specifically those players, but that there is a minimum physical threshold.  Bannan was one of the players of the year last season and he is the opposite of physically strong.

[footyskillz]

Sunday Times reporting we are after Abel Hernandez from Hull. Cash plus Gestede. Suggests we're trying to take advantage of their chairman trying to sell the club.

Hernandez scored 21 last season.

Would be good but cant imagine why Hernandez would swop the prem for the championship

Agreed ! seems like we just scouting off the lists of top  scorers of the championship weather true or not by media so it's just educated guess work. 

Ross McCormack fulham,Abel Hernández hull, jonathan Kodjia bristol City were in top 4 scorers of league

By this theory and my research the next bids and links will be with

17 Goals getter Tomer Hemed
Brighton

Nahki Wells pace man
Huddersfield 17 Goals fame

15 Goals scored by big man
Chris Martin derby

15 Goals scored
10 Assists Fernando Forestieri Sheff Wed--- tgis is rhe one i want £10-12 million

14 Goals scored by Brentford pair
Alan Judge and lasse Vibe .
Alan judge decent and cruelly injured and broke leg but made championship team of year. Judge is small midfielder /winger who attacks at will.

I hazard a guess one or two of these above could be bought .

I conclude Judge , Hernandez and Forresteri would be lovely we could add nahki wells if Kodjia or Hernandez doesn't come and these names put forward

That is my scouting of championship ready strikers justlike football manager

[pauliewalnuts]

You do realize that we are playing in the Championship where the vast majority of teams will be worse than us right?

I think that's a pretty dangerous assumption to make.

If we'd got relegated last year in a traditional "just failed to squeak staying up" style, then maybe, but we didn't, we had a comedy relegation - 17 points. That's how godawful we were. I would be extremely wary of making too many assumptions about other teams being worse than us.

Not really a dangerous assumption at all. For us not to be better than than the vast majority of sides in the Championship next season we'd need to finish lower than 8th or so by my estimation. Let's see how this turns out shall we? As disappointing as yesterday's pre season game turned out I'm not about to start discussing relegation odds, and irrespective of how last season ended.

There's so much that is different about the club and so much road in front of us to make changes and improve. Most teams by the end of the window won't have come close to what we will have spent. I'm not about to dismiss the need for those players to bed in, but playing against lower grade opposition will ensure that this happens faster.

There are clearly holes to fill, but unless we have been completely lied to I expect that the new board and manager will have addressed many of those needs by the time the window closes.

Isn't there a contradiction between saying in one breath that the "vast majority of teams will be worse than us" and then "let's just see how the season pans out"? It works both ways.

For me it is absolutely a dangerous assumption and a bit arrogant too - I would say that squad that finished the season would struggle to finish halfway up the Championship. Since then, it has hardly changed. If Gueye goes, then really, is it any stronger? Guzan replaced and an uninspiring centre half and midfielder added? Is that enough to materially change the utter laughing stock of last season?

It might be, it might not be, but assuming it is strikes me as extremely dangerous.

You say there's so much different about the club, and that's true, but there's hardly anything different about the squad. It is largely the same bunch of wasters as last season. Look at yesterday's match, pretty much every one of our weaknesses last season was still there in spades.

I would make absolutely no assumptions on how much better than the rest of the league we will be, especially not after the laughing stock we were last year.

[garyshawsknee]

I like what I've seen of Wells. Looks a threat and has real pace, wouldn't cost the earth too.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

Tin hat on, but if we can get a tune out of Richards, he and Amavi could do really well for us in the Championship.

If Richards is fit and has the right attitude, he will be the best right back by a mile, ditto Amavi

Well his attitude stinks, so he won't be the best right back in the championship.

[Tony Erdington]

Sunday Times reporting we are after Abel Hernandez from Hull. Cash plus Gestede. Suggests we're trying to take advantage of their chairman trying to sell the club.

Hernandez scored 21 last season.

Would be good but cant imagine why Hernandez would swop the prem for the championship

Agreed ! seems like we just scouting off the lists of top  scorers of the championship weather true or not by media so it's just educated guess work. 

Ross McCormack fulham,Abel Hernández hull, jonathan Kodjia bristol City were in top 4 scorers of league

By this theory and my research the next bids and links will be with

17 Goals getter Tomer Hemed
Brighton

Nahki Wells pace man
Huddersfield 17 Goals fame

15 Goals scored by big man
Chris Martin derby

15 Goals scored
10 Assists Fernando Forestieri Sheff Wed--- tgis is rhe one i want £10-12 million

14 Goals scored by Brentford pair
Alan Judge and lasse Vibe .
Alan judge decent and cruelly injured and broke leg but made championship team of year. Judge is small midfielder /winger who attacks at will.

I hazard a guess one or two of these above could be bought .

I conclude Judge , Hernandez and Forresteri would be lovely we could add nahki wells if Kodjia or Hernandez doesn't come and these names put forward

That is my scouting of championship ready strikers justlike football manager

Thanks for that Skillz, I haven't looked at the championship in that detail, but we will see what the Dr orders.

[Villa in Denmark]

Tin hat on, but if we can get a tune out of Richards, he and Amavi could do really well for us in the Championship.

If Richards is fit and has the right attitude, he will be the best right back by a mile, ditto Amavi

i sit in the lower north and have had the misfortune of seeing richards 'play' at right back at close quarters. I dont think I've ever seen a player with less positional sense or awareness of what is going on around them

I'll have a go at beating that.  Richards in his "preferred" position of centre back.  It's like watching someone with no sense of balance come off 6 consecutive rides on the waltzers after necking ½ litre vodka before they started.

Actually scrub that. You'd think his was still riding an invisible waltzer.