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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3975 on: July 31, 2016, 02:40:38 PM »
Not dismissing the attitude problem at the club because it was there for all to see. But it started with the owner and went all the way down. Once Randy's personal interests became non Villa he didn't pay enough attention to the erosion taking place at the club. He didn't put good executives in place and didn't sufficiently monitor their day to day activities. Problems continued to mount and it started to negatively affect all other areas of the club. This of course works its way down to the way the playing side was managed and the malaise infected he senior players who some, instead of being strong and leaders instead took advantage of the disintegration. Basically instead of calming things down and focusing on their duties, looted the club of its pride and dignity.

Back to Gabby, he was one of the key people one would have hoped would have stood up and been a pillar of strength. Instead he did precisely the opposite. So with the change of ownership he had a choice. He could have gambled on the new owner/manager being idiots like the last lot or over the summer tried to change the views people have of him. I think he has tried to do that. The players all kept their heads down and while there is work to do they have gone about their business without fuss. That's what RDM has seen and that is why he is giving him and certain other individuals another chance. Not saying he wouldn't sell him because I think he would but if there isn't any interest then the wise thing is to try and use him and get the most out of him.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3976 on: July 31, 2016, 02:44:58 PM »
While it seems easy just to cancel contracts there needs to be a degree of rationality tied to any player decision this new team makes. I think has Gabby came back to training looking the embarrassment the club put up with last season he'd have been out on his ear. However he came back looking as lean as we have seen him in years, so while the anger at him from fans exists, the manager would have spoken to him and gauged him by his attitude to getting back in shape. It's a shame in that regard he got injured and couldn't continue to become match fit. Naturally there is a financial component too and writing off contracts while it might sound easy when it's not your money is very expensive to do and takes away from addressing needs elsewhere.
Hear what you're saying TV, but I have always held the view that Gabby at the peak of his game was only ever just about an average player. Have never really liked him as a player and this is despite his two late strikes against SMA. Of course these were enjoyable but every forward has to score occasionally. He was fortunate that his were able to give him breathing space in terms of popularity to perform poorly for much of the rest of the time. To be fair to him, it wasn't an attitude problem in earlier days, he's just never been that good a footballer.

Yeah, in his younger days his attitude and pace made up for a lack of ability. Not sure what he's left with now.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3977 on: July 31, 2016, 02:58:20 PM »
RDM rates Gabby I think.

a lot of these so called experts seem too. Just don't get it myself .

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3978 on: July 31, 2016, 03:08:55 PM »
What exactly is his injury this time ?
« Last Edit: July 31, 2016, 03:16:27 PM by Fin Feds Dad »

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3979 on: July 31, 2016, 03:19:14 PM »
I think we haven't moved enough of the unwanted squad players yet.  I think a steady season in this year's Championship is a reasonable goal this season, we are not playing premiership teams week in weekout this should enable this squad to win a few matches. No bomb squad please, also if we go straight back up Dr T has to fork out to RL just maybe he wants to sit it out.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3980 on: July 31, 2016, 03:45:12 PM »
From memory the extra income from promotion would outstrip the extra payment quite easily.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3981 on: July 31, 2016, 03:51:08 PM »
You can say what you like. But a manager spouting a banal platitude about a player he has yet to select for any of our friendlies does not constitute proof that there is "fuck all money", with a month of the transfer window still ahead of us.

He did play in the game over at Stourport and he didn't do very much.

Fair enough, hadn't realised that. But in any case playing as one of two teams in the same day against a sixth tier club doesn't prove he's part of our plans for the Championship.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3982 on: July 31, 2016, 04:13:31 PM »
I think we haven't moved enough of the unwanted squad players yet.  I think a steady season in this year's Championship is a reasonable goal this season, we are not playing premiership teams week in weekout this should enable this squad to win a few matches. No bomb squad please, also if we go straight back up Dr T has to fork out to RL just maybe he wants to sit it out.
The club have already made it clear that the objective for the management team and playing staff is promotion back to the PL at the first attempt. If that is to be believed, then they haven't exactly taken steps to fill the fans with the confidence that this is going to happen with the transfer activity so far. I think part of the problem is that they have set expectations but currently failed to provide any evidence on the pitch that this will be achieved.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3983 on: July 31, 2016, 04:19:23 PM »
But surely more importantly than filling the fans with hope is that they work closely with the manager to ensure his needs are met. If RDM says he wants to reduce the squad size and evaluate things in a measured manner isn't that more important than signing players in a specific timeframe because fans somehow demand it? I would rather they take a rational, unemotional approach to fixing Villa than some short term unsustainable strategy like those that have got us in to the situation we find ourselves in.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3984 on: July 31, 2016, 04:25:53 PM »
Absolutely. The fans need to be particularly patient during this transfer window but we all know that football supporters often consist of short minded simple folk with very little patience...there are a few on here that would meet this criteria. If they haven't done the business by the end of the window then that is the time to be concerned, and it will be clear that the clubs objectives for this season will not be met.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3985 on: July 31, 2016, 04:29:41 PM »
Yep, I think the last month of the window for us is going to be hectic. I can see 3-4 minimum coming in and at least that going out. I don't see we will see the regular starting XI emerge for a few weeks yet. This is a long season.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3986 on: July 31, 2016, 04:54:13 PM »
We need 2 players with genuine pace into the forward line.  Hernandez would be good.  Still think Nakhi Wells would be a good signing.  More than anything though we need a wide player with pace.
Green, Davis and H-M would be a start ....

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3987 on: July 31, 2016, 05:04:42 PM »
And Adama if he can be found.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3988 on: July 31, 2016, 05:07:13 PM »
We need 2 players with genuine pace into the forward line.  Hernandez would be good.  Still think Nakhi Wells would be a good signing.  More than anything though we need a wide player with pace.
Green, Davis and H-M would be a start ....

Could explain the inactivity in the transfer market regarding forwards. Do you buy a "proven" forward who'd shunt a promising kid down the pecking order, or do you trust said kids to do the job?

Kinda glad that's not my decision to make.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3989 on: July 31, 2016, 05:42:30 PM »
There has to be more targets though.  I mean Bristol City got Kodjia last summer for a couple of million. We must have some forward options scouted that would not cost the earth but actually give us some drive and thrust going forward.  We can't even play on the counter due to a lack of any pace. 

 


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