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Offline Morten

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3495 on: July 25, 2016, 06:31:21 PM »
3-4 players out ? I would not be surprised if any of these 10 players left:
Guzan, Richards, Lescott, Bacuna, Gana, Sanchez, Veretout, Sinclair, Kozak or even Agbonlahor.

In fact I would be surprised if 6-7 of these 10 are staying.

Offline Villafirst

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3496 on: July 25, 2016, 06:42:43 PM »
Not good to have so many changes so close to the start of the season. Look at the numerous changes last summer and what happened then.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3497 on: July 25, 2016, 06:57:35 PM »
Anyone seen the rumour Norwich willing to pay £15m for McCormick to put us off...whatever

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3498 on: July 25, 2016, 07:00:17 PM »
Anyone seen the rumour Norwich willing to pay £15m for McCormick to put us off...whatever

I'd hope we were never in for him, but at that price.....

Christ that's like bidding £30,000 for a Mondeo to stop the bloke next door getting it instead of a Mercedes C Class

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3499 on: July 25, 2016, 07:18:36 PM »
Not good to have so many changes so close to the start of the season. Look at the numerous changes last summer and what happened then.

It depends on the changes, surely? Unwanted/unuseable players being shifted out in any number required shouldn't be a problem, as long as the right players are brought in. And as RDM has said that he thinks the squad is too big, there should be less players incoming.

And as for last summer: IMO, 'what happened then' wasn't merely down to the number of changes in the squad, but also the utter failure of the 'manager' in charge at the time (and the rest of his coaching team) to integrate both old and new players into an actual squad as opposed to a number of seemingly haphazardly assembled bits from an undefined number of entirely different jigsaw puzzle sets.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3500 on: July 25, 2016, 07:26:23 PM »
Not good to have so many changes so close to the start of the season. Look at the numerous changes last summer and what happened then.
We cannot necessarily dictate the timing of player-purchases; it's also down to the selling club and the timing vis-a-vis the transfer window.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3501 on: July 25, 2016, 07:26:36 PM »
Anyone seen the rumour Norwich willing to pay £15m for McCormick to put us off...whatever

If bringing in that one player stops them from all round strengthening, go for it.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3502 on: July 25, 2016, 07:37:18 PM »
Not good to have so many changes so close to the start of the season. Look at the numerous changes last summer and what happened then.

It depends on the changes, surely? Unwanted/unuseable players being shifted out in any number required shouldn't be a problem, as long as the right players are brought in. And as RDM has said that he thinks the squad is too big, there should be less players incoming.

And as for last summer: IMO, 'what happened then' wasn't merely down to the number of changes in the squad, but also the utter failure of the 'manager' in charge at the time (and the rest of his coaching team) to integrate both old and new players into an actual squad as opposed to a number of seemingly haphazardly assembled bits from an undefined number of entirely different jigsaw puzzle sets.

Last summer was down to Sherwood not knowing how to do the job.  He wanted to be pals with the squad so didn't force the hard yards and we looked short of fitness for most of the season.  For the same reason he let the players do their own thing and form their own cliques in the squad, so when things weren't going well they blamed the other groups and we had big divisions in the squad.  He didn't know how to provide structure for the club so we had a style and formation ready as our 'go to' whilst the players gelled so not only were they unfamiliar with each other but they were playing in unfamiliar formations and in an ever changing team.

Our squad wasn't great and we would've been down near the bottom regardless but Sherwood's ineptitude is what seperated us from the likes of Norwich, Newcastle and Sunderland.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3503 on: July 25, 2016, 07:38:17 PM »
Anyone seen the rumour Norwich willing to pay £15m for McCormick to put us off...whatever

Well I bloody hope that would put us off.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3504 on: July 25, 2016, 07:55:32 PM »
It depends on the changes, surely? Unwanted/unuseable players being shifted out in any number required shouldn't be a problem, as long as the right players are brought in. And as RDM has said that he thinks the squad is too big, there should be less players incoming.

And as for last summer: IMO, 'what happened then' wasn't merely down to the number of changes in the squad, but also the utter failure of the 'manager' in charge at the time (and the rest of his coaching team) to integrate both old and new players into an actual squad as opposed to a number of seemingly haphazardly assembled bits from an undefined number of entirely different jigsaw puzzle sets.

Last summer was down to Sherwood not knowing how to do the job.  He wanted to be pals with the squad so didn't force the hard yards and we looked short of fitness for most of the season.  For the same reason he let the players do their own thing and form their own cliques in the squad, so when things weren't going well they blamed the other groups and we had big divisions in the squad.  He didn't know how to provide structure for the club so we had a style and formation ready as our 'go to' whilst the players gelled so not only were they unfamiliar with each other but they were playing in unfamiliar formations and in an ever changing team.

Our squad wasn't great and we would've been down near the bottom regardless but Sherwood's ineptitude is what seperated us from the likes of Norwich, Newcastle and Sunderland.

Yes. A club with a defined playing style, developed over years, may change a large portion of the squad, provided that the management team knows what they're doing - thus being able not only to identify and get the right players, but also communicate to them what their role in the team should be.

We had neither.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3505 on: July 25, 2016, 08:08:16 PM »
Indeed. Look at Watford last summer. Changed their manager despite being promoted, shipped in and out a massive number of players but still managed to get the job done and reach the cup semi final.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3506 on: July 25, 2016, 08:20:01 PM »
And that's almost the antithesis of Villa over the past decade.
The series of 180 degrees changes has been almost Pythonesque: Ooops. That didn't work, did it? So, now for something completely different...

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3507 on: July 25, 2016, 08:54:01 PM »
Our favourite local radio station reckons Guzan is off to Boro before the end of the week.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3508 on: July 25, 2016, 09:18:48 PM »
I can't believe we turned down actual money for Sinclair.

Offline Pat McMahon

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3509 on: July 25, 2016, 09:52:22 PM »
Our favourite local radio station reckons Guzan is off to Boro before the end of the week.

Scarborough?

 


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