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Offline brian green

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3435 on: July 24, 2016, 01:02:37 PM »
I am coming round to the view that Rudy Gestede is never going to get any better and that his goals scored at Blackburn were a flash in the pan.  A good person but  every bit as responsible for our plight last season as the shits.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3436 on: July 24, 2016, 01:09:15 PM »
It was his only goalscoring spell in his career. To get the best out of him you'd presumably have to be prepared not to involve him in the build up too much, and play with wide players who swing it into the box regularly

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3437 on: July 24, 2016, 01:10:17 PM »
 Quite a few news outlets  ( including the local rag ) reporting this morning that Spuds are in for our Andre Green....

" Tottenham Hotspur are understood to have taken an interest in Aston Villa teenager Andre Green.

The 17-year-old winger made his senior debut for Villa in a 2-0 Premier League defeat to Spurs last season and caught the eye of Mauricio Pochettino, the Birmingham Mail cites The Mirror as claiming.

Green was given his first-team breakthrough by Remi Garde but is also said to be highly rated by new Villans manager Roberto Di Matteo, who plans to feature him in the Championship this season.

But he might not get that opportunity because the Birmingham Mail reckons that Pochettino is now monitoring the teenager closely and could sanction Tottenham to make a swoop this summer.

Pochettino has already worked wonders at White Hart Lane when signing young English talent from outside of the Premier League. Dele Alli and Eric Dier have become integral players for club and country.

And although Green is a local lad – he has come through the Villa academy at Bodymoor Heath – the chance to work with a manager of Pochettino’s reputation may be too good to turn down " .


Wishful thinking on behalf of the Londoners I believe , it´s funny how we fans probably don´t realise how good a player we´ve got on your hands...until a big Club takes an interest in them . We dearly need to keep hold of Greene, R.H.Murphy, Grealish et al....they are our future, and it is certainly bright!...Godzvilla!

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3438 on: July 24, 2016, 01:19:04 PM »
£15mil please :)

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3439 on: July 24, 2016, 01:19:46 PM »
Rudy had very nearly a 1 in 2 ratio with Blackburn between 2014-5, far from shabby, but like Brian, to me, it's looking like a distinct spike in an otherwise unimpressive career.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3440 on: July 24, 2016, 02:11:41 PM »
Quite a few news outlets  ( including the local rag ) reporting this morning that Spuds are in for our Andre Green....

" Tottenham Hotspur are understood to have taken an interest in Aston Villa teenager Andre Green.

The 17-year-old winger made his senior debut for Villa in a 2-0 Premier League defeat to Spurs last season and caught the eye of Mauricio Pochettino, the Birmingham Mail cites The Mirror as claiming.

Green was given his first-team breakthrough by Remi Garde but is also said to be highly rated by new Villans manager Roberto Di Matteo, who plans to feature him in the Championship this season.

But he might not get that opportunity because the Birmingham Mail reckons that Pochettino is now monitoring the teenager closely and could sanction Tottenham to make a swoop this summer.

Pochettino has already worked wonders at White Hart Lane when signing young English talent from outside of the Premier League. Dele Alli and Eric Dier have become integral players for club and country.

And although Green is a local lad – he has come through the Villa academy at Bodymoor Heath – the chance to work with a manager of Pochettino’s reputation may be too good to turn down " .


Wishful thinking on behalf of the Londoners I believe , it´s funny how we fans probably don´t realise how good a player we´ve got on your hands...until a big Club takes an interest in them . We dearly need to keep hold of Greene, R.H.Murphy, Grealish et al....they are our future, and it is certainly bright!...Godzvilla!

There have been rumours before about other teams being interested in Green.  I'm sure I heard Ray Wilkins say in an interview a few months ago that him and Sherwood did not want Traore as they felt Green was more of a prospect than him.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3441 on: July 24, 2016, 02:39:07 PM »
Quite a few news outlets  ( including the local rag ) reporting this morning that Spuds are in for our Andre Green....

" Tottenham Hotspur are understood to have taken an interest in Aston Villa teenager Andre Green.

The 17-year-old winger made his senior debut for Villa in a 2-0 Premier League defeat to Spurs last season and caught the eye of Mauricio Pochettino, the Birmingham Mail cites The Mirror as claiming.

Green was given his first-team breakthrough by Remi Garde but is also said to be highly rated by new Villans manager Roberto Di Matteo, who plans to feature him in the Championship this season.

But he might not get that opportunity because the Birmingham Mail reckons that Pochettino is now monitoring the teenager closely and could sanction Tottenham to make a swoop this summer.

Pochettino has already worked wonders at White Hart Lane when signing young English talent from outside of the Premier League. Dele Alli and Eric Dier have become integral players for club and country.

And although Green is a local lad – he has come through the Villa academy at Bodymoor Heath – the chance to work with a manager of Pochettino’s reputation may be too good to turn down " .


Wishful thinking on behalf of the Londoners I believe , it´s funny how we fans probably don´t realise how good a player we´ve got on your hands...until a big Club takes an interest in them . We dearly need to keep hold of Greene, R.H.Murphy, Grealish et al....they are our future, and it is certainly bright!...Godzvilla!

There have been rumours before about other teams being interested in Green.  I'm sure I heard Ray Wilkins say in an interview a few months ago that him and Sherwood did not want Traore as they felt Green was more of a prospect than him.

Still can't make up my mind on Traore. The skill and pace is their but he must be so frustrating to play alongside with his greediness and trying to beat the 4 men too many, never busting a gut to get the ball he lost back.

Maybe Green being not as fast and tricky has more a simple game and a different mentality but I need to see more of both. Could be a game or two where both start on each flank?

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3442 on: July 24, 2016, 02:40:56 PM »
That Jonathan Kodjia chap has apparently said on instagram 'I think about my future'. Sounds like he's had his head turned.
Boro apparently looking at him today.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3443 on: July 24, 2016, 03:00:11 PM »
I am coming round to the view that Rudy Gestede is never going to get any better and that his goals scored at Blackburn were a flash in the pan.  A good person but  every bit as responsible for our plight last season as the shits.

Brian, he thrives on a very specific type of service. I barely saw any decent crosses yesterday and the main provider when we did see a glimpse of what he can do is still on the sidelines. So if we play a certain way I think he can be productive in the Championship. It really comes down to whether or not RDM wants us to play a style that gets the most out of him.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3444 on: July 24, 2016, 03:13:00 PM »
I am coming round to the view that Rudy Gestede is never going to get any better and that his goals scored at Blackburn were a flash in the pan.  A good person but  every bit as responsible for our plight last season as the shits.

Brian, he thrives on a very specific type of service. I barely saw any decent crosses yesterday and the main provider when we did see a glimpse of what he can do is still on the sidelines. So if we play a certain way I think he can be productive in the Championship. It really comes down to whether or not RDM wants us to play a style that gets the most out of him.
Yeah didn't most his goals if not all of them come from good Amavi crosses, Amavi is then out for the season and Gestede looks pony. I think he's garbage on the deck but any ball in the air for him to attack then he's not far behind Carroll and Benteke for me ... but that's about it.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3445 on: July 24, 2016, 03:27:48 PM »
I don't think his all round game is good enough to justify structuring our entire attacking plan around him.  We need a natural goal scorer who gets scruffy goals off his backside.  Rudy Gestede has had every possible chance to prove he is more than a cross converter.  I really hope I am wrong but I think he is of very limited value to the team.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3446 on: July 24, 2016, 03:34:02 PM »
I don't think his all round game is good enough to justify structuring our entire attacking plan around him.  We need a natural goal scorer who gets scruffy goals off his backside.  Rudy Gestede has had every possible chance to prove he is more than a cross converter.  I really hope I am wrong but I think he is of very limited value to the team.

Ah that's a different argument and I agree. What he offers is the versatility should wish to switch things up and play that way. Championship football can be lot less refined and at times it might take a more direct approach in games to get a win. Or better explained that approach might be more effective in this league than in the PL. I certainly wouldn't want Gestede or even Kozak for that matter being our main striking options for the season.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3447 on: July 24, 2016, 03:34:52 PM »
I only really see Gestede as the guy you bring on with 20-30 minutes left to make tired defenders even more uncomfortable (any longer and he stands around), or in games where banging in a whole bunch of crosses is the best strategy. If he could actually had any stamina and work-rate for 60+ minutes, he'd be perfectly useful even with his limited footballing ability, but he doesn't, which basically renders him a far shittier version of Darren Bent.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3448 on: July 24, 2016, 03:57:23 PM »
Aside from Liverpool away I think Rudy's best performances for us have come for us as a sub so surely that should be his role at the club.

When the new strikers come it will be him and Ayew surely with Gestede the last half hour option, he scored v Leicester and Everton in this role and also had a terrific game up at Newcastle when he came on.

He'll stay as he's above kozak in the pecking order for immobile awkward strikers.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3449 on: July 24, 2016, 04:04:20 PM »
rumours today that we are interested in Nantes's Yacine Bammou, a forward who's goal scoring record makes Rudy look prolific

 


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