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Online PaulWinch again

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3195 on: July 21, 2016, 08:32:23 AM »
Veretout has plenty of potential and we should keep hold of him.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3196 on: July 21, 2016, 08:55:20 AM »
Just read on HITC that Ravel Morrison's odds have been cut to 4/6 to join our club. Undoubtedly talented but are we as yet in a position to take on this care in the community case considering the ongoing redevelopment of the squad?!!

My brother said he'd heard we were in for him

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3197 on: July 21, 2016, 09:17:49 AM »
Just read on HITC that Ravel Morrison's odds have been cut to 4/6 to join our club. Undoubtedly talented but are we as yet in a position to take on this care in the community case considering the ongoing redevelopment of the squad?!!

My brother said he'd heard we were in for him

Guy has skill (and baggage) by the bucket load! On his game he would be a master stroke. Off it - add to the list of disaster signings. To be fair if he didn't have the undoubted risk attached we'd have no chance of signing him so...

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3198 on: July 21, 2016, 10:17:55 AM »
Veretout has plenty of potential and we should keep hold of him.

He hasn't shown it though.

We carried too many passengers and our midfield is especially vanilla.


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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3199 on: July 21, 2016, 10:26:44 AM »
I think we need a mobile centre forward in before we play Wednesday.

I know others have said Tish' is a speculative purchase ala Westwood, Bennett etc, but 2nd Division outfits don't spend £5 million of long shots. I think his physicality will be very useful against the backdrop of bits and pieces, neat a tidy players who've stunk out our midfield for seasons.

Sanchez is going and he's no great loss. The English game didn't suit him and he was worse than Gavin McCann for his second touch being a tackle. Gil lacked the pace and physical presence to have a meaningful impact on the game. Far too one footed and despite having clear ability, wasn't suited to us.

Veretout may well have a lot of promise, but he didn't show it for whatever reason and you cannot miss what isn't there.

This leaves at present Westwood, Gana, Tish' and Gardner. I think we need some more legs and creativity in there, but its got to be up front where we supplement before 7th August.

There's no point in Ayew drifting deep and looking busy with Grealish if there's nobody playing off the shoulder or capable of doing damage running in behind. Those two players make space by their ability, but we've got nobody quick enough or good enough to exploit it.

Hopefully now the bloated squad is getting a well deserved prune, we'll see some more faces coming in.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3200 on: July 21, 2016, 10:27:25 AM »
Guzan is one of a few who I doubt are poisonous but whom have been around too long through successions of insipid awfulness. He needs a move as much for his own good as ours.

Nail on head! See also Westwood / Clark / Baker

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3201 on: July 21, 2016, 10:37:42 AM »
Veretout has plenty of potential and we should keep hold of him.

He hasn't shown it though.

We carried too many passengers and our midfield is especially vanilla.

He was the only player I saw last season that could spot and play the early ball to release the forward players.  Also, his deadball accuracy was better than others as well.

His problems last season centred around lack of consistency and confidence, not being up to the pace of the PL, not being given a consistent run in the team and injuries.

The time when he did show his abilities was when Garde came in and showed some faith in him. I think we would be better keeping him than loaning him out and letting him develop in our team at a level less demanding than last season. We have never succeeded in loaning players out. They just seem to disappear and lose value (a few exceptions being younger players).

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3202 on: July 21, 2016, 11:00:51 AM »
Veretout may well have a lot of promise, but he didn't show it for whatever reason and you cannot miss what isn't there.

That's only a matter of framing though. Equally, you can look at it as a potential upgrade which you didn't have to spend any money on, in circumstances when you need the money to fill all kinds of other holes.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2016, 11:16:07 AM by passitsideways »

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3203 on: July 21, 2016, 11:11:56 AM »
Got to be honest I thought Tony would throw he weight around a bit more in the transfer market.  I appreciate there's some time to go, but the activity so far is very modest.  I think if Randy was still in charge he would be getting pelters by now.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3204 on: July 21, 2016, 11:24:10 AM »
Got to be honest I thought Tony would throw he weight around a bit more in the transfer market.  I appreciate there's some time to go, but the activity so far is very modest.  I think if Randy was still in charge he would be getting pelters by now.
How I feel. They squad is full of losers. We needed a cull but that hasn't happened. We need more fresh blood and not from other loser clubs.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3205 on: July 21, 2016, 11:28:53 AM »
Got to be honest I thought Tony would throw he weight around a bit more in the transfer market.  I appreciate there's some time to go, but the activity so far is very modest.  I think if Randy was still in charge he would be getting pelters by now.

Blimey, is that the first moan at Dr Tony already? It's not always about throwing his weight around, it's about who the manager wants and if they're available. I think three in so far is fine.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3206 on: July 21, 2016, 11:34:46 AM »
Got to be honest I thought Tony would throw he weight around a bit more in the transfer market.  I appreciate there's some time to go, but the activity so far is very modest.  I think if Randy was still in charge he would be getting pelters by now.

Blimey, is that the first moan at Dr Tony already? It's not always about throwing his weight around, it's about who the manager wants and if they're available. I think three in so far is fine.

Agree totally. RDM needed to look at the squad, get a few off the books and see what was needed. It's happening but will take time and a few out and a few in already is fine. More will come and go in the next 6 weeks. Money speaks a lot louder when you are in the Prem when attracting players, so it's not just about chucking wads of cash about in this league.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3207 on: July 21, 2016, 11:35:32 AM »
Got to be honest I thought Tony would throw he weight around a bit more in the transfer market.  I appreciate there's some time to go, but the activity so far is very modest.  I think if Randy was still in charge he would be getting pelters by now.

Blimey, is that the first moan at Dr Tony already? It's not always about throwing his weight around, it's about who the manager wants and if they're available. I think three in so far is fine.
And if anything I think it's RDM who seems to want to focus a little more on shifting players in the next few weeks, rather than buying. He'll undoubtedly still be looking and working on getting players in, but he must be working double time to try and shift the vast amounts of shit we still have. You'd have better lucky selling turds from an ice-cream van than shipping out half these assholes.

A striker is likely to be our next target. I don't think we'll let Ayew go until we've done our business there. That said, if it's a straight choice between keeping Ayew or signing a new frontman, I'd keep Ayew. He'd be hands down the best player in the division IMO. Given service, Kozak and Gestede will score plenty in the champ too.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3208 on: July 21, 2016, 11:41:18 AM »
Got to be honest I thought Tony would throw he weight around a bit more in the transfer market.  I appreciate there's some time to go, but the activity so far is very modest.  I think if Randy was still in charge he would be getting pelters by now.
How I feel. They squad is full of losers. We needed a cull but that hasn't happened. We need more fresh blood and not from other loser clubs.

If Randy was in charge he would be getting pelters but he isn't - a new owner, board & management have to go about their business calmly - panicking over 2 weeks before the season starts and 6 weeks before the transfer deadline is not the way.  I can't see contracts being paid up so we have to find buyers for the players which it seems is happening (Gil, Guzan etc). If we sell 8 & buy 3 more (that RDM wants) before the deadline that will be good work.  Keep Calm!


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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #3209 on: July 21, 2016, 12:49:17 PM »
Got to be honest I thought Tony would throw he weight around a bit more in the transfer market.  I appreciate there's some time to go, but the activity so far is very modest.  I think if Randy was still in charge he would be getting pelters by now.

We're the biggest gross spenders in the league.

 


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