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Offline Clampy

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2790 on: July 13, 2016, 08:29:10 PM »
Right-back is an issue. I wouldn't want Bacuna, Hutton or Richards anywhere near our defence. They're a shambles.

Out of those three, Bacuna is the only one who can defend. The other two have no positional sense whatsoever.

Bacuna can defend? I think he is arguably the worst of them all.

No argument, he is

I must have missed all those goals we shipped in last season when Richards and Hutton were in the same side.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2791 on: July 13, 2016, 08:34:33 PM »
Bacuna is shit in any position he plays, whether right back or centre mid. I urge you to have a good look at some of the goals and his complete lack of effort in defending them. Often collectively, I agree, but Bacuna is every bit as bad as Richards, Lescott, Agbonlahor or Hutton.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2792 on: July 13, 2016, 08:44:03 PM »
I actually think that Bacuna at Norwich last season wanted to lose.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2793 on: July 13, 2016, 09:52:23 PM »
I actually think that Bacuna at Norwich last season wanted to lose.

I think you could say the same for more than just that game. He's a fcuking bomb scare.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2794 on: July 13, 2016, 10:15:08 PM »
Right-back is an issue. I wouldn't want Bacuna, Hutton or Richards anywhere near our defence. They're a shambles.

Out of those three, Bacuna is the only one who can defend. The other two have no positional sense whatsoever.

Bacuna can defend? I think he is arguably the worst of them all.

No argument, he is

I must have missed all those goals we shipped in last season when Richards and Hutton were in the same side.
Ive never got Bacuna, to me his a bit like a lottery ticket.

Offline peter w

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2795 on: July 13, 2016, 10:28:22 PM »
I did want to like Bacuna. He had all the attributes. Seemed strong, athletic, and willing to work. Fantastic work rate. So, having a lack of any real ability made me dislike him at first. But then every one got on his back and I felt sorry for him a little. he's just a hard trier who said something innocent and become the victim of an already unforgiving crowd. But kudos. Despite all of that and against a backdrop of derision whenever the ball came to him, he should us what he is. A strong willed, psychologically well balanced, and a good athlete. Just what any side would want.

The only down side really, is that he's not very good. For all his positives, if he could combine that with a level of ability that we aspire to he'd be worth millions. As it is he's a below average player for the Championship, never mind the Premier League, and definitely should be shifted on.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2796 on: July 13, 2016, 10:44:39 PM »
Bacuna wasn't that bad under Lambert.

A willing trier at least and he did have some good games, had Hazard in his pocket in the 1-0 Chelsea win.

Even under Sherwood he set up a lot of goals for Benteke let's not forget.

However since he got that bumper 5 year deal his whole motivation and general attitude to football has gone downhill.

You can see that in his demeanor in the players arrival videos on the O/S and stuff, he's one Roy Keane apparently called out in his brief time for not caring enough about losing.

I would be o.k with Hutton at RB at least until January, championship is more his level now at this stage of his career, would be surprised if he gets the runaround every week.

Offline Diablo

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2797 on: July 13, 2016, 11:06:49 PM »
Bacuna wasn't that bad under Lambert.

A willing trier at least and he did have some good games, had Hazard in his pocket in the 1-0 Chelsea win.

Even under Sherwood he set up a lot of goals for Benteke let's not forget.

However since he got that bumper 5 year deal his whole motivation and general attitude to football has gone downhill.

You can see that in his demeanor in the players arrival videos on the O/S and stuff, he's one Roy Keane apparently called out in his brief time for not caring enough about losing.

I would be o.k with Hutton at RB at least until January, championship is more his level now at this stage of his career, would be surprised if he gets the runaround every week.

Do we know who else Keane called out besides Bacuna? He had a run in with Gabby didn't he? Maybe Keane wasn't so crazy after all?

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2798 on: July 13, 2016, 11:10:59 PM »
...he's one Roy Keane apparently called out in his brief time for not caring enough about losing.

I'm quite happy to accept that Bacuna's attitude probably isn't one completely in line with success at the highest level of football.

But the day that Roy Keane's opinion on anything is of any relevance is that day that the world collapses in on itself.

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2799 on: July 13, 2016, 11:12:30 PM »
I did want to like Bacuna. He had all the attributes. Seemed strong, athletic, and willing to work. Fantastic work rate. So, having a lack of any real ability made me dislike him at first. But then every one got on his back and I felt sorry for him a little. he's just a hard trier who said something innocent and become the victim of an already unforgiving crowd. But kudos. Despite all of that and against a backdrop of derision whenever the ball came to him, he should us what he is. A strong willed, psychologically well balanced, and a good athlete. Just what any side would want.

The only down side really, is that he's not very good. For all his positives, if he could combine that with a level of ability that we aspire to he'd be worth millions. As it is he's a below average player for the Championship, never mind the Premier League, and definitely should be shifted on.

Fantastic work rate?  Not sure about that Peter, particularly in games towards the end of last season.  There was a particular spell in the home game against Southampton where he downed tools completely and then went and goaded fans.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2800 on: July 14, 2016, 01:55:33 AM »
Bacuna wasn't that bad under Lambert.

A willing trier at least and he did have some good games, had Hazard in his pocket in the 1-0 Chelsea win.

Even under Sherwood he set up a lot of goals for Benteke let's not forget.

However since he got that bumper 5 year deal his whole motivation and general attitude to football has gone downhill.

You can see that in his demeanor in the players arrival videos on the O/S and stuff, he's one Roy Keane apparently called out in his brief time for not caring enough about losing.

I would be o.k with Hutton at RB at least until January, championship is more his level now at this stage of his career, would be surprised if he gets the runaround every week.

Do we know who else Keane called out besides Bacuna? He had a run in with Gabby didn't he? Maybe Keane wasn't so crazy after all?

Jack Grealish.

Reported to have asked during a training session "is there something wrong?" followed by "then why haven't you started training yet".

Tweeted by Jack,  himself.

Offline passitsideways

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2801 on: July 14, 2016, 06:52:44 AM »
Didn't he try confronting Cleverley as well? Middle-of-the-road player, but the last thing you'd accused him of is not trying hard enough.

Offline Tom_Mc9?

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2802 on: July 14, 2016, 09:00:16 AM »
Bacuna is clearly not good enough. Without opening a can of worms yet again, I do feel a bit (not too much mind you) sorry for him for how much flak he got towards the end of last season for his Champions League comments. I think one of his main downfalls is a lack of common sense and intelligence. When he leaves he'll be forgotten soon enough and as others have said - it's down to ability more than anything else. The likes of him and Gabby personify our downfall. Nothing players.

Offline ajmant

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2803 on: July 14, 2016, 09:30:59 AM »
Bacuna is ace. The stand out pass of last season to send Shane Long through on goal. Vision, awareness and coolness under pressure. Awesome he is. Awesome.

Offline Diablo

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #2804 on: July 14, 2016, 09:45:09 AM »
Bacuna wasn't that bad under Lambert.

A willing trier at least and he did have some good games, had Hazard in his pocket in the 1-0 Chelsea win.

Even under Sherwood he set up a lot of goals for Benteke let's not forget.

However since he got that bumper 5 year deal his whole motivation and general attitude to football has gone downhill.

You can see that in his demeanor in the players arrival videos on the O/S and stuff, he's one Roy Keane apparently called out in his brief time for not caring enough about losing.

I would be o.k with Hutton at RB at least until January, championship is more his level now at this stage of his career, would be surprised if he gets the runaround every week.

Do we know who else Keane called out besides Bacuna? He had a run in with Gabby didn't he? Maybe Keane wasn't so crazy after all?

Jack Grealish.

Reported to have asked during a training session "is there something wrong?" followed by "then why haven't you started training yet".

Tweeted by Jack,  himself.


I can certainly hear Keane saying that lol

 


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