Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions

[Mouse Potato]

Hopefully someone else meets Gana's clause fee and triggers a bidding war

[cdbearsfan]

Hopefully somebody agrees to pay us in a more stable currency, like the Zimbabwean Dollar.

[Mouse Potato]

Hopefully somebody agrees to pay us in a more stable currency, like the Zimbabwean Dollar.

Damn... You edited it before I could start the punathon

[Steve67]

Does anyone else think that we were aware Gana would be leaving and this lad from Reading is his replacement?

Quite possibly. Hopefully, Tshibola has much more of a presence about him than Gueye does. I wouldn't mind seeing them together mind as I think they might do well. That said, take the money and invest in better.

[The Edge]

Yes because what a player who has played in the Premier League and scored goals, got a move to one if the top English clubs, broke into the national set-up will be thinking is, "I need to get back to the level that earned me a move to Liverpool and England recognition. I know what is best for my career at this point, a year in the Championship".

Come on. It's ludicrous to even consider it.

And what if he disappears after his breakthrough season? It's not like that hasn't happened before to others. And I would argue that it is one of the many reasons why England will never again win another tournament because young players accept sitting on the bench too readily. That playing regular football and learning your trade is somehow beneath them. Rashford might be the opposite and he might break into the Man U team and keep his spot. But there's plenty of evidence to support he notion that season 2 is a lot harder than the first and he might regress in his development at a time we would all hope as supporters of our national program he improves.

Yes he might go backwards. Second season and all that but players don't know that unless they have a go. Liverpool and Ings will be hoping that he gets up to fitness and pushes on. I doubt either them or he are in anyway contemplating a year of dropping his standards. Maybe in January or next summer, but now? No point.

The thing is, you've used the words 'deluded and ludicrous'. You're almost making it sound like we're discussing Lionel Messi.

Precisely. It's Marcus Rashford we are discussing or Danny Ings. When I think Rashford I see Macheda who was brilliant for a bit and then ended up disappearing from his early lofty heights. Rashford is 18, played 11 times for Man U and broke into the England set up as much because others around him were injured and because frankly our options as a nation up front are awful. There is no doubt he has done well, but he has a long way to go before cementing himself as a regular at PL or national team level.

That's not the point.  Why on earth would either contemplate dropping a division now?  To pre-empt them becoming shit rather than actually doing their best to be successful?  It's frankly a ridiculous debate and I think the word deluded is perfectly appropriate.

If you think it's ludicrous then don't engage in the debate. What's ludicrous is that an 18 year old player who is good and has had a good start to his career but hardly much more is being heralded as so much more than that. And that he is so amazing that he shouldn't consider career development outside of the PL, or that we have such a low self esteem that it shouldn't even be contemplated. That we should set our targets much, much lower than that.

The whole point of me mentioning his name is that players like Rashford, with the introduction of a manager like Mourinho might see his playing time curtailed. Add to the fact it is his second season and teams will be wiser to his presence. Young players suffer dips in form and confidence. We shouldn't so readily dismiss that this might happen and a move to a club like us who should have a good season in a lower tier might be a good thing, versus struggling to get noticed or joining a side at the arse end of the PL. Bloody hell you'd think I suggested a loan for Danny Welbeck or another fringe but established English PL player.

Manchester United's best prospect on loan? Come on! More likely than not he will have limited game time but he'll be sat on their bench.

I agree.

I can't believe anyone really thinks we'd have a chance of a signing like that.

I think mourinhos record of loaning out young talent speaks fo itself and anything is possible. If it does happen then what? Are we not worthy?

[Dave]

Yes because what a player who has played in the Premier League and scored goals, got a move to one if the top English clubs, broke into the national set-up will be thinking is, "I need to get back to the level that earned me a move to Liverpool and England recognition. I know what is best for my career at this point, a year in the Championship".

Come on. It's ludicrous to even consider it.

And what if he disappears after his breakthrough season? It's not like that hasn't happened before to others. And I would argue that it is one of the many reasons why England will never again win another tournament because young players accept sitting on the bench too readily. That playing regular football and learning your trade is somehow beneath them. Rashford might be the opposite and he might break into the Man U team and keep his spot. But there's plenty of evidence to support he notion that season 2 is a lot harder than the first and he might regress in his development at a time we would all hope as supporters of our national program he improves.

Yes he might go backwards. Second season and all that but players don't know that unless they have a go. Liverpool and Ings will be hoping that he gets up to fitness and pushes on. I doubt either them or he are in anyway contemplating a year of dropping his standards. Maybe in January or next summer, but now? No point.

The thing is, you've used the words 'deluded and ludicrous'. You're almost making it sound like we're discussing Lionel Messi.

Precisely. It's Marcus Rashford we are discussing or Danny Ings. When I think Rashford I see Macheda who was brilliant for a bit and then ended up disappearing from his early lofty heights. Rashford is 18, played 11 times for Man U and broke into the England set up as much because others around him were injured and because frankly our options as a nation up front are awful. There is no doubt he has done well, but he has a long way to go before cementing himself as a regular at PL or national team level.

That's not the point.  Why on earth would either contemplate dropping a division now?  To pre-empt them becoming shit rather than actually doing their best to be successful?  It's frankly a ridiculous debate and I think the word deluded is perfectly appropriate.

If you think it's ludicrous then don't engage in the debate. What's ludicrous is that an 18 year old player who is good and has had a good start to his career but hardly much more is being heralded as so much more than that. And that he is so amazing that he shouldn't consider career development outside of the PL, or that we have such a low self esteem that it shouldn't even be contemplated. That we should set our targets much, much lower than that.

The whole point of me mentioning his name is that players like Rashford, with the introduction of a manager like Mourinho might see his playing time curtailed. Add to the fact it is his second season and teams will be wiser to his presence. Young players suffer dips in form and confidence. We shouldn't so readily dismiss that this might happen and a move to a club like us who should have a good season in a lower tier might be a good thing, versus struggling to get noticed or joining a side at the arse end of the PL. Bloody hell you'd think I suggested a loan for Danny Welbeck or another fringe but established English PL player.

Manchester United's best prospect on loan? Come on! More likely than not he will have limited game time but he'll be sat on their bench.

I agree.

I can't believe anyone really thinks we'd have a chance of a signing like that.

I think mourinhos record of loaning out young talent speaks fo itself and anything is possible. If it does happen then what? Are we not worthy?

Not really. Why we he want to come here and more importantly why would Man Utd want him to come here when a dozen Premier League clubs would happily take him?

[Lastfootstamper]

Was it Mourhino that wouldn't let us borrow Huth?

[Steve67]

Dr Xia has posted on his Weibo site that in another couple of weeks the spine of the side will be complete with  creative midfielder and bullet loaded strikers coming in, paraphrasing. Also, latest figures re season tickets, 18 thousand sold already.

[Russ aka Big Nose]

Hopefully someone else meets Gana's clause fee and triggers a bidding war

If they do - then the bidding war will be about his wages and not the fee to us.

Though it doesn't look popular on here, I would say he was one of the better performers is a very poor team. Our defense lacked organisation and we had no goal threat - neither down to Gana as his job was to break up play and move the ball on quickly to someone else - I think he managed that more often than anyone else asked to do that job.

[Stirchley Villain]

Was it Mourhino that wouldn't let us borrow Huth?

Whatever happened to him?

[The Edge]

Yes because what a player who has played in the Premier League and scored goals, got a move to one if the top English clubs, broke into the national set-up will be thinking is, "I need to get back to the level that earned me a move to Liverpool and England recognition. I know what is best for my career at this point, a year in the Championship".

Come on. It's ludicrous to even consider it.

And what if he disappears after his breakthrough season? It's not like that hasn't happened before to others. And I would argue that it is one of the many reasons why England will never again win another tournament because young players accept sitting on the bench too readily. That playing regular football and learning your trade is somehow beneath them. Rashford might be the opposite and he might break into the Man U team and keep his spot. But there's plenty of evidence to support he notion that season 2 is a lot harder than the first and he might regress in his development at a time we would all hope as supporters of our national program he improves.

Yes he might go backwards. Second season and all that but players don't know that unless they have a go. Liverpool and Ings will be hoping that he gets up to fitness and pushes on. I doubt either them or he are in anyway contemplating a year of dropping his standards. Maybe in January or next summer, but now? No point.

The thing is, you've used the words 'deluded and ludicrous'. You're almost making it sound like we're discussing Lionel Messi.

Precisely. It's Marcus Rashford we are discussing or Danny Ings. When I think Rashford I see Macheda who was brilliant for a bit and then ended up disappearing from his early lofty heights. Rashford is 18, played 11 times for Man U and broke into the England set up as much because others around him were injured and because frankly our options as a nation up front are awful. There is no doubt he has done well, but he has a long way to go before cementing himself as a regular at PL or national team level.

That's not the point.  Why on earth would either contemplate dropping a division now?  To pre-empt them becoming shit rather than actually doing their best to be successful?  It's frankly a ridiculous debate and I think the word deluded is perfectly appropriate.

If you think it's ludicrous then don't engage in the debate. What's ludicrous is that an 18 year old player who is good and has had a good start to his career but hardly much more is being heralded as so much more than that. And that he is so amazing that he shouldn't consider career development outside of the PL, or that we have such a low self esteem that it shouldn't even be contemplated. That we should set our targets much, much lower than that.

The whole point of me mentioning his name is that players like Rashford, with the introduction of a manager like Mourinho might see his playing time curtailed. Add to the fact it is his second season and teams will be wiser to his presence. Young players suffer dips in form and confidence. We shouldn't so readily dismiss that this might happen and a move to a club like us who should have a good season in a lower tier might be a good thing, versus struggling to get noticed or joining a side at the arse end of the PL. Bloody hell you'd think I suggested a loan for Danny Welbeck or another fringe but established English PL player.

Manchester United's best prospect on loan? Come on! More likely than not he will have limited game time but he'll be sat on their bench.

I agree.

I can't believe anyone really thinks we'd have a chance of a signing like that.

I think mourinhos record of loaning out young talent speaks fo itself and anything is possible. If it does happen then what? Are we not worthy?

Not really. Why we he want to come here and more importantly why would Man Utd want him to come here when a dozen Premier League clubs would happily take him?

Because premier league clubs are their rivals and championship clubs aren't

[Mouse Potato]

Yes because what a player who has played in the Premier League and scored goals, got a move to one if the top English clubs, broke into the national set-up will be thinking is, "I need to get back to the level that earned me a move to Liverpool and England recognition. I know what is best for my career at this point, a year in the Championship".

Come on. It's ludicrous to even consider it.

And what if he disappears after his breakthrough season? It's not like that hasn't happened before to others. And I would argue that it is one of the many reasons why England will never again win another tournament because young players accept sitting on the bench too readily. That playing regular football and learning your trade is somehow beneath them. Rashford might be the opposite and he might break into the Man U team and keep his spot. But there's plenty of evidence to support he notion that season 2 is a lot harder than the first and he might regress in his development at a time we would all hope as supporters of our national program he improves.

Yes he might go backwards. Second season and all that but players don't know that unless they have a go. Liverpool and Ings will be hoping that he gets up to fitness and pushes on. I doubt either them or he are in anyway contemplating a year of dropping his standards. Maybe in January or next summer, but now? No point.

The thing is, you've used the words 'deluded and ludicrous'. You're almost making it sound like we're discussing Lionel Messi.

Precisely. It's Marcus Rashford we are discussing or Danny Ings. When I think Rashford I see Macheda who was brilliant for a bit and then ended up disappearing from his early lofty heights. Rashford is 18, played 11 times for Man U and broke into the England set up as much because others around him were injured and because frankly our options as a nation up front are awful. There is no doubt he has done well, but he has a long way to go before cementing himself as a regular at PL or national team level.

That's not the point.  Why on earth would either contemplate dropping a division now?  To pre-empt them becoming shit rather than actually doing their best to be successful?  It's frankly a ridiculous debate and I think the word deluded is perfectly appropriate.

If you think it's ludicrous then don't engage in the debate. What's ludicrous is that an 18 year old player who is good and has had a good start to his career but hardly much more is being heralded as so much more than that. And that he is so amazing that he shouldn't consider career development outside of the PL, or that we have such a low self esteem that it shouldn't even be contemplated. That we should set our targets much, much lower than that.

The whole point of me mentioning his name is that players like Rashford, with the introduction of a manager like Mourinho might see his playing time curtailed. Add to the fact it is his second season and teams will be wiser to his presence. Young players suffer dips in form and confidence. We shouldn't so readily dismiss that this might happen and a move to a club like us who should have a good season in a lower tier might be a good thing, versus struggling to get noticed or joining a side at the arse end of the PL. Bloody hell you'd think I suggested a loan for Danny Welbeck or another fringe but established English PL player.

Manchester United's best prospect on loan? Come on! More likely than not he will have limited game time but he'll be sat on their bench.

I agree.

I can't believe anyone really thinks we'd have a chance of a signing like that.

I think mourinhos record of loaning out young talent speaks fo itself and anything is possible. If it does happen then what? Are we not worthy?

Not really. Why we he want to come here and more importantly why would Man Utd want him to come here when a dozen Premier League clubs would happily take him?

Because premier league clubs are their rivals and championship clubs aren't

I've nothing to add to this. I just wanted to be a part of the biggest quotathon in history. McWhirter... Where are you?

[VILLA MOLE]

Yes because what a player who has played in the Premier League and scored goals, got a move to one if the top English clubs, broke into the national set-up will be thinking is, "I need to get back to the level that earned me a move to Liverpool and England recognition. I know what is best for my career at this point, a year in the Championship".

Come on. It's ludicrous to even consider it.

And what if he disappears after his breakthrough season? It's not like that hasn't happened before to others. And I would argue that it is one of the many reasons why England will never again win another tournament because young players accept sitting on the bench too readily. That playing regular football and learning your trade is somehow beneath them. Rashford might be the opposite and he might break into the Man U team and keep his spot. But there's plenty of evidence to support he notion that season 2 is a lot harder than the first and he might regress in his development at a time we would all hope as supporters of our national program he improves.

Yes he might go backwards. Second season and all that but players don't know that unless they have a go. Liverpool and Ings will be hoping that he gets up to fitness and pushes on. I doubt either them or he are in anyway contemplating a year of dropping his standards. Maybe in January or next summer, but now? No point.

The thing is, you've used the words 'deluded and ludicrous'. You're almost making it sound like we're discussing Lionel Messi.

Precisely. It's Marcus Rashford we are discussing or Danny Ings. When I think Rashford I see Macheda who was brilliant for a bit and then ended up disappearing from his early lofty heights. Rashford is 18, played 11 times for Man U and broke into the England set up as much because others around him were injured and because frankly our options as a nation up front are awful. There is no doubt he has done well, but he has a long way to go before cementing himself as a regular at PL or national team level.

That's not the point.  Why on earth would either contemplate dropping a division now?  To pre-empt them becoming shit rather than actually doing their best to be successful?  It's frankly a ridiculous debate and I think the word deluded is perfectly appropriate.

If you think it's ludicrous then don't engage in the debate. What's ludicrous is that an 18 year old player who is good and has had a good start to his career but hardly much more is being heralded as so much more than that. And that he is so amazing that he shouldn't consider career development outside of the PL, or that we have such a low self esteem that it shouldn't even be contemplated. That we should set our targets much, much lower than that.

The whole point of me mentioning his name is that players like Rashford, with the introduction of a manager like Mourinho might see his playing time curtailed. Add to the fact it is his second season and teams will be wiser to his presence. Young players suffer dips in form and confidence. We shouldn't so readily dismiss that this might happen and a move to a club like us who should have a good season in a lower tier might be a good thing, versus struggling to get noticed or joining a side at the arse end of the PL. Bloody hell you'd think I suggested a loan for Danny Welbeck or another fringe but established English PL player.

Manchester United's best prospect on loan? Come on! More likely than not he will have limited game time but he'll be sat on their bench.

I agree.

I can't believe anyone really thinks we'd have a chance of a signing like that.

I think mourinhos record of loaning out young talent speaks fo itself and anything is possible. If it does happen then what? Are we not worthy?

Not really. Why we he want to come here and more importantly why would Man Utd want him to come here when a dozen Premier League clubs would happily take him?

Because premier league clubs are their rivals and championship clubs aren't

I've nothing to add to this. I just wanted to be a part of the biggest quotathon in history. McWhirter... Where are you?

no longer with us I am afraid

[The Edge]

Yes because what a player who has played in the Premier League and scored goals, got a move to one if the top English clubs, broke into the national set-up will be thinking is, "I need to get back to the level that earned me a move to Liverpool and England recognition. I know what is best for my career at this point, a year in the Championship".

Come on. It's ludicrous to even consider it.

And what if he disappears after his breakthrough season? It's not like that hasn't happened before to others. And I would argue that it is one of the many reasons why England will never again win another tournament because young players accept sitting on the bench too readily. That playing regular football and learning your trade is somehow beneath them. Rashford might be the opposite and he might break into the Man U team and keep his spot. But there's plenty of evidence to support he notion that season 2 is a lot harder than the first and he might regress in his development at a time we would all hope as supporters of our national program he improves.

Yes he might go backwards. Second season and all that but players don't know that unless they have a go. Liverpool and Ings will be hoping that he gets up to fitness and pushes on. I doubt either them or he are in anyway contemplating a year of dropping his standards. Maybe in January or next summer, but now? No point.

The thing is, you've used the words 'deluded and ludicrous'. You're almost making it sound like we're discussing Lionel Messi.

Precisely. It's Marcus Rashford we are discussing or Danny Ings. When I think Rashford I see Macheda who was brilliant for a bit and then ended up disappearing from his early lofty heights. Rashford is 18, played 11 times for Man U and broke into the England set up as much because others around him were injured and because frankly our options as a nation up front are awful. There is no doubt he has done well, but he has a long way to go before cementing himself as a regular at PL or national team level.

That's not the point.  Why on earth would either contemplate dropping a division now?  To pre-empt them becoming shit rather than actually doing their best to be successful?  It's frankly a ridiculous debate and I think the word deluded is perfectly appropriate.

If you think it's ludicrous then don't engage in the debate. What's ludicrous is that an 18 year old player who is good and has had a good start to his career but hardly much more is being heralded as so much more than that. And that he is so amazing that he shouldn't consider career development outside of the PL, or that we have such a low self esteem that it shouldn't even be contemplated. That we should set our targets much, much lower than that.

The whole point of me mentioning his name is that players like Rashford, with the introduction of a manager like Mourinho might see his playing time curtailed. Add to the fact it is his second season and teams will be wiser to his presence. Young players suffer dips in form and confidence. We shouldn't so readily dismiss that this might happen and a move to a club like us who should have a good season in a lower tier might be a good thing, versus struggling to get noticed or joining a side at the arse end of the PL. Bloody hell you'd think I suggested a loan for Danny Welbeck or another fringe but established English PL player.

Manchester United's best prospect on loan? Come on! More likely than not he will have limited game time but he'll be sat on their bench.

I agree.

I can't believe anyone really thinks we'd have a chance of a signing like that.

I think mourinhos record of loaning out young talent speaks fo itself and anything is possible. If it does happen then what? Are we not worthy?

Not really. Why we he want to come here and more importantly why would Man Utd want him to come here when a dozen Premier League clubs would happily take him?

Because premier league clubs are their rivals and championship clubs aren't

I've nothing to add to this. I just wanted to be a part of the biggest quotathon in history. McWhirter... Where are you?

no longer with us I am afraid

shall we just call it a draw?

[Steve67]

Yes because what a player who has played in the Premier League and scored goals, got a move to one if the top English clubs, broke into the national set-up will be thinking is, "I need to get back to the level that earned me a move to Liverpool and England recognition. I know what is best for my career at this point, a year in the Championship".

Come on. It's ludicrous to even consider it.

And what if he disappears after his breakthrough season? It's not like that hasn't happened before to others. And I would argue that it is one of the many reasons why England will never again win another tournament because young players accept sitting on the bench too readily. That playing regular football and learning your trade is somehow beneath them. Rashford might be the opposite and he might break into the Man U team and keep his spot. But there's plenty of evidence to support he notion that season 2 is a lot harder than the first and he might regress in his development at a time we would all hope as supporters of our national program he improves.

Yes he might go backwards. Second season and all that but players don't know that unless they have a go. Liverpool and Ings will be hoping that he gets up to fitness and pushes on. I doubt either them or he are in anyway contemplating a year of dropping his standards. Maybe in January or next summer, but now? No point.

The thing is, you've used the words 'deluded and ludicrous'. You're almost making it sound like we're discussing Lionel Messi.

Precisely. It's Marcus Rashford we are discussing or Danny Ings. When I think Rashford I see Macheda who was brilliant for a bit and then ended up disappearing from his early lofty heights. Rashford is 18, played 11 times for Man U and broke into the England set up as much because others around him were injured and because frankly our options as a nation up front are awful. There is no doubt he has done well, but he has a long way to go before cementing himself as a regular at PL or national team level.

That's not the point.  Why on earth would either contemplate dropping a division now?  To pre-empt them becoming shit rather than actually doing their best to be successful?  It's frankly a ridiculous debate and I think the word deluded is perfectly appropriate.

If you think it's ludicrous then don't engage in the debate. What's ludicrous is that an 18 year old player who is good and has had a good start to his career but hardly much more is being heralded as so much more than that. And that he is so amazing that he shouldn't consider career development outside of the PL, or that we have such a low self esteem that it shouldn't even be contemplated. That we should set our targets much, much lower than that.

The whole point of me mentioning his name is that players like Rashford, with the introduction of a manager like Mourinho might see his playing time curtailed. Add to the fact it is his second season and teams will be wiser to his presence. Young players suffer dips in form and confidence. We shouldn't so readily dismiss that this might happen and a move to a club like us who should have a good season in a lower tier might be a good thing, versus struggling to get noticed or joining a side at the arse end of the PL. Bloody hell you'd think I suggested a loan for Danny Welbeck or another fringe but established English PL player.

Manchester United's best prospect on loan? Come on! More likely than not he will have limited game time but he'll be sat on their bench.

I agree.

I can't believe anyone really thinks we'd have a chance of a signing like that.

I think mourinhos record of loaning out young talent speaks fo itself and anything is possible. If it does happen then what? Are we not worthy?

Not really. Why we he want to come here and more importantly why would Man Utd want him to come here when a dozen Premier League clubs would happily take him?

Because premier league clubs are their rivals and championship clubs aren't

I've nothing to add to this. I just wanted to be a part of the biggest quotathon in history. McWhirter... Where are you?

no longer with us I am afraid

shall we just call it a draw?

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