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Online aj2k77

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #825 on: May 11, 2016, 02:33:33 PM »
Christie, Dack, Robertson, Dunk, Grigg, go back in for that Croatian keeper, Zac Clough, Redmond, Judge. I'd be happy with any of those. Have no idea who for Centre Mid though.


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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #826 on: May 11, 2016, 06:54:40 PM »
Diame from hull or Bryson/Hughes from Derby for the Middle, if Derby don't go up then Johnny Russell would be good as an attacking option.

How much that lot would cost is another thing though.

All depends on who we get rid of doesn't it, I would like a midfield of Gana/Sanchez/Veretout for the championship next season with Westwood and Gardner as back up.


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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #827 on: May 11, 2016, 07:09:17 PM »
That Taylor lad at Bristol Rovers is worth a couple of hundred grand punt.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #828 on: May 11, 2016, 10:20:25 PM »
David Nugent would be best option up front proven at this level
Dexter Blackstock of forest or
Chris wood powerful striker at Leeds would all be better price than McCormack

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #829 on: May 11, 2016, 10:24:27 PM »
Why fill the squad with championship dross?

That's how you stay in it.

They might have looked shit this season but plenty of the players we have are good enough to get us back up.

We need to keep these and add players good enough to win the championship, not ones who will help us  bob along in it because that's their level. What would  be the point in that?

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #830 on: May 11, 2016, 10:59:53 PM »
Why fill the squad with championship dross?

That's how you stay in it.

They might have looked shit this season but plenty of the players we have are good enough to get us back up.

We need to keep these and add players good enough to win the championship, not ones who will help us  bob along in it because that's their level. What would  be the point in that?

Boro signings in last 18 months

Albert Admoah
Rhodes
Adam Foreshaw
Adam Clayton
Leadbitter
George Friend

Championship dross did alright for them. Burnley have a similar model aswell.

I think whatever level we sign players from, we need them to have the right mentality and actually relish getting this club out of the championship the right end.

I do agree if we sign too many some will struggle with the step up and pressure but we've seen recently there's some good talent in the lower leagues.

Personally I would be happy signing 3-4 with some older heads from premier league like Adam, James Morrison and an experienced CB like Distin or something.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #831 on: May 11, 2016, 11:01:02 PM »
Lewis Kinsella has gone - apologies if posted elsewhere, been a long day and haven't the energy to trawl too far!

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #832 on: May 11, 2016, 11:04:25 PM »
Leigh Griffiths, Celtic forward. 40 goals this season.
Might fancy his chances South of the boarder.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #833 on: May 11, 2016, 11:06:41 PM »
Leigh Griffiths, Celtic forward. 40 goals this season.
Might fancy his chances South of the boarder.

Nah:

1. He's got it easy up there.
2. His head is strange.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #834 on: May 11, 2016, 11:09:32 PM »
Why fill the squad with championship dross?

That's how you stay in it.

They might have looked shit this season but plenty of the players we have are good enough to get us back up.

We need to keep these and add players good enough to win the championship, not ones who will help us  bob along in it because that's their level. What would  be the point in that?

I have agreed with this for the past few months, but today I have a doubt.

This team of players got half, HALF the points total of Naaarwich and Mags. So lets assume for a moment that this is an indicator of squad quality.

Thats two teams we are compteting with next year who are not just a little but significantly better than we are. Norwich in particular just about scraped into the PL by the playoffs but it was not a dominating performance,  yet we still are half as good as them.

If you buy into that then maybe, maybe, our players are just not good enough to get us promoted and we do need to recruit the best players from the Championship or beyond.

Anyway sorry for derail but its a worrying thought.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #835 on: May 11, 2016, 11:18:08 PM »
If you buy into that then maybe, maybe, our players are just not good enough to get us promoted and we do need to recruit the best players from the Championship or beyond.

I don't think that anybody would say that we shouldn't recruit the best players from the Championship. That seems pretty sensible, and Paulie doesn't say that we shouldn't aim for the best players there.

But the best players from the Championship aren't and never have been Dexter Blackstock.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #836 on: May 11, 2016, 11:24:35 PM »
If you buy into that then maybe, maybe, our players are just not good enough to get us promoted and we do need to recruit the best players from the Championship or beyond.

Yes, the best players from the championship, players who are too good for that level - people seem to be looking at players who have been at that level for years and saying "he knows the league". Yes, they know the league because they've spent most of their careers there. For a reason.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #837 on: May 11, 2016, 11:38:17 PM »
George Friend and Jordan Rhodes have been stand out players though and linked with Premier league moves for a long time. Boro have been helped by Downing and Gaston Ramirez being miles better than the championship. Much like Traore, Gil, Grealish and Veretout are if we keep hold of them and have a manager with some sort of ability to actually manage, organise and motivate a team.

As Paulie says, a lot of our players are easily better than a lot down there already. The big thing for me is getting 3-4 leaders through the spine of the team. We have Gestede, a goalscorer alongside him with experience of the league makes sense, so McCormack must be worth a look. Burnley went out and got the stand out striker in that division when they were relegated and it basically ensured promotion. A defender of experience and quality to sit alongside Clark and lead the back line - no idea who, but someone in the ilk of the hairy Pole at Leicester would be useful. Someone versed in the dark arts. Wilson at Stoke would be worth a look as a utility defender across the back too IMO. Morrison from Albion might be worth a go if he doesn't sign his deal there. 3-4 well thought out loan deals too. Ramirez at Boro being a good example. How much longer have Dawson and Davies got on their deals at Hull - easily better than Championship and good enough for our side. If they don't go up they might be forced to shed some players. Diame and Livermore (looked very good 2 years ago in midfield) might also be worth a look. Bamford up front if Chelsea are selling - although Boro may well go back in for him.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #838 on: May 11, 2016, 11:42:10 PM »
If you buy into that then maybe, maybe, our players are just not good enough to get us promoted and we do need to recruit the best players from the Championship or beyond.

Yes, the best players from the championship, players who are too good for that level - people seem to be looking at players who have been at that level for years and saying "he knows the league". Yes, they know the league because they've spent most of their careers there. For a reason.

Yep, pick players who are just too good for the league and try to get a few of them, judge looks a good example, his injury means he'll probably not get a big move so he might be available.  I'd look at players who are too good for leagues like scotland, holland and belgium as well, if you can find a 20/21/22 year old in one of those leagues there's a good chance that premier league clubs might skip by them wanting to get 'proven quality' but the lower standard of the championship means you've got a better chance of settling.  Especially if the takeover does happen we need to be looking at buying players who will be good enough to be midtable premier league players in 2 years time.  That won't include people like Nugent and Blackstock who are over the hill and were never good enough for the top flight anyway.  I don't mind the idea of 1 or 2 older heads but they need to be in the right positions and have the right qualities.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #839 on: May 11, 2016, 11:46:21 PM »
Nugent scored 20 goals the season Leicester won the league. He was too good when he was younger for that division, but could not do it in the Prem. Much like I fear Gestede, and probably McCormack, but they will score 40 plus between them to set you well on your way.

Fulham have got a young ish midfielder that is quality.

 


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