Aston Villa v Everton Post-Match Thread

[CJ]

Pure, unadulterated shite. Embarrassingly poor players with only one or two - Gana and Hutton - showing any fight and pride - and only Hutton came to the Holte End at the end to applaud the fans and give a youngster his shirt - all the others just wandered off. Good to hear Tom Fox starting to get some 'feedback' at last. Off to the single malt.

[walsall villain]

We are a fucking dreadful team - without a shadow the worst Villa team I've ever seen (I'm 45) and what scares me is that we could well see an even worse mob in our beloved shirts next seaason.

Sack the board.

I would have thought this is the worst Villa ream in our history?

[peter w]

I'm sure pelty will be here shortly to tell us we don't understand.

[auntiesledd]

I'm surprised The General hasn't stepped into the breach with more of his hugely effective Desert Storm analogies...

I think the evacuation from Saigon is more appropriate.

Ah yes, good old "We'll be here through thick and thin" General Krulak, who disappeared like a rat up a drainpipe within the first few weeks of "thin".

Thanks for giving me a good laff there, Paulie. At least there's a possibility that I can go off to bed with a smile on my face after another highly-anticipated Villa loss. You da man!   

Edit: And Walmley V too. Obviously.

[GarTomas]

Pure, unadulterated shite. Embarrassingly poor players with only one or two - Gana and Hutton - showing any fight and pride - and only Hutton came to the Holte End at the end to applaud the fans and give a youngster his shirt - all the others just wandered off. Good to hear Tom Fox starting to get some 'feedback' at last. Off to the single malt.

It was Veretout.

[Pat McMahon]

Didn't we have a decent defence with Dunne, Collins and Warnock in the team? Unfair to throw them in with that other lot.

Well, for one season, we did, at least until Dunne came back from injury the size of a fucking house. Let's not forget what an unprofessional fat fuck he was.

Good player though, and immensely better than the shit we've had since.

For one whole season.

THat's precisely the problem with this club for the last ten years plus. One season. Any other club would regard that as a dreadful failure, but we're so used to fucking shit, he's seen as a great player.

And as for being better than the shit we have had since, that's the faintest of praise.

The issue with Dunne is that we would not have got him unless he was flawed.

His propensity for drinking and his disciplinary problems were well known before we bought him.  MoN's exit and Houllier's arrival more or less ensured what would happen. Ditto Warnock, and Collins. All potential piss artists waiting for an excuse to go the piss. New training program, switch from zonal defending: Bingo!

Don't forget that Warnock got into the England squad on the basis of his performances for us.

Moral of the story. Do not swing widely from one managerial style to another without considering the players on the ground.

Dunne and Colins were good defenders, the latter still is. He was easily better than any of our own a few weeks ago at W Ham and I know that is faint praise so will add to that by saying he annoyingly dominated  Benteke in our last victory of last season.

Our defence was a lot shakier under Houllier than under MON, and that may have been due to their attitude or it may have been due to a manager not playing to his players' strengths.

[BC54 VFC]

I'm sure pelty will be here shortly to tell us we don't understand.

Well if he deigns to come on here I hope he gets some pelters.

[dave shelley]

If you were to somehow gain access to Villa Park at about two-o-clock tomorrow morning when everyone has gone and take up your seat, the noise you would hear would be deafening.  Would you be imagining it? No, what you would be hearing is the sound of my father and thousands upon thousands of long gone supporters and long gone heroic players who actually gave a shit sobbing their hearts out at what is happening to their club.

I'm approaching the twilight of my years and, frankly I'm scared.  I'm scared that I may never again see my club play in the top flight where it belongs and always has belonged.  I have faith that we will rise again for that is what we do, that is Aston Villa, I just hope it doesn't take as long as I think it may.

[walsall villain]

It was the same old story. The opposition don't have to do much to win. I think it was two efforts on target from Everton first half and two easy goals. Ultimately it's about lack of quality, we have full backs who try to get forward who rarely deliver decent crosses, midfielders who get shots away but very rarely score, Gabby who is past it, poor goalkeeper(s) and central defenders who cannot organise themselves to do the basics. I think we will be stuck with most of this squad, I doubt whether they are capable of much in the championship.

[PeterWithesShin]

Everton didn't even have to try and win, I doubt they left second gear. I've only seen the goals once at the game, but they all seemed so fucking easy, mainly thanks to utterly wank defending.

[pauliewalnuts]

Everton didn't even have to try and win, I doubt they left second gear. I've only seen the goals once at the game, but they all seemed so fucking easy, mainly thanks to utterly wank defending.

That's just the story of our season.

Fuck knows how many times we've put together some really nice bits of football only to spunk it away through stupidity.

It seems to be:

*play well*
*pass it around*
*pass it around a bit more*
*look decent but unthreatening*

*drop fucking embarrassing schoolboy football level clanger*

*fall to pieces*

[j66acd]

I may have to consider going to watch Wasps at the Ricoh.

that's what I've been doing you won't regret it they are competing up the top of the table, and destroyed Harlequins last sunday Wasps were joint 3rd with before they played.

Me too, cheaper tickets, decent beer, a team that cares, plays well and WINS! But it's in Coventry.

[Axl Rose]

we honestly dont look as if we will get another point

Gestede did well when he came in, might aswell play hoofball until the pain is over

Garde has the appearance of a man waiting for a payoff

totally agree

honourable man my fucking arse, he is fucking clueless

Yep, he's hopeless.  Sat there like a teenage girl who's had her mobile phone taken off her.

Yes, I cannot bear him anymore. I'd sack him. God only knows who'd be in next.

[PeterWithesShin]

After they scored the first I said to my mate "I bet we play quite well for a while, don't score and they'll just hit us on the break and score and game over. Then the same will happen for a third and fourth". I was close but they decided to declare at 3.

[joe_c]

Pure, unadulterated shite. Embarrassingly poor players with only one or two - Gana and Hutton - showing any fight and pride - and only Hutton came to the Holte End at the end to applaud the fans and give a youngster his shirt - all the others just wandered off. Good to hear Tom Fox starting to get some 'feedback' at last. Off to the single malt.

It was Veretout.

Both of them did.