West Ham vs Aston Villa Post Match Thread

[supertom]

Don't know if now is a good time to put 'the kids' in the team. It could destroy any confidence they have the way things are and really set them back.

There will never be a better time

We fanny about with the academy "kids" enough as it is, it is always next week, next month, next year

I am sure the majority of our fans would have no problem with a youngster running his bollocks off and trying as opposed to a waster like richardson

Get them in. Most definitely. We're the most predictable attacking side in the lead. So perhaps 1-2 attacking players from the youths might give us some kind of surprise factor. Lets see what Sellars, Green etc can do.
Is Gabby going to offer much? Unfortunately not.

[aj2k77]

Jerrell Sellars is 20. He's not 14. He should be on the bench. There should be a youth option as opposed to Kieran Richardson, he offers fuck all, he's knackered, his legs are shot to pieces but the u21's are kept locked in a cupboard for this mythical day when it's perfect for them to get a chance. Then they disappear.

Give a few of them a shot.

Can they do any worse than Bacuna, Westwood, Richardson, Gabby? Seriously, Bacuna, complete bottle job who's on a 5 month holiday here now, he couldn't give less of a fuck if he tried. We have no young players with more heart than he has talent? Shut down Bodymoor Heath if that's the case as it's not worth it. Sellars or Hepburn Murphy can't work the lines better than 3 forwards who don't get out of 1st gear. Get out of here.

[Pat McMahon]

First of all i'm very drunk

I'd just like to say how proud I am, regardless of how much the tickets were subsidised, of the Villa fans, the same faces that I know rocking up on a week day, while the game is on TV, and getting behind the team as they did tonight.

The London Lions had a cracking turn out tonight and I'm really looking forward to next year, where ever we'll be playing, I met some top Villa lads from Leicester on the tube who deserve a big hug and with whom we had great fun with on the tube in to Upton Park.

My mate had a corporate ticket and and was complimented throughout the game on our support tonight and it was mentioned how they wish their support was so vocal. I walked through West Ham station with a West Ham fan who was genuinely disappointed with us going down.

The more shit we are the more I love them, I've just rolled out of 5 guys slaughtered having met the best group of people I could ever choose to meet, sometimes the shitter we are the more I love em'

 I personally can't wait for next year, it may not last if we get stuck there but I'm going to have a lot more fun.   

It was a good evening, apart from the actual match. I got talking to a few West Ham fans on the tube home and they were genuinely sad to see the state we're in and wished us all the best. I have to say though that I'm beginning to worry about Garde. I don't know whether the shit we're in is holding him back or covering up the fact that he's not actually any good.

Great turnout, a few choice songs about Lerner which didn't help. The club don't deserve the support that turns up every week, only to have their loyalty chucked back at them

As somebody said last night, if you had to attend the game and weren't allowed to have a drink, would you still go? Now there's a tough one. Watchihg the Villa sober this season is awful (I am dry for home games as I drive and haven't enjoyed a single one).

[oswald funkletrumpet]

Jerrell Sellars is 20. He's not 14. He should be on the bench. There should be a youth option as opposed to Kieran Richardson, he offers fuck all, he's knackered, his legs are shot to pieces but the u21's are kept locked in a cupboard for this mythical day when it's perfect for them to get a chance. Then they disappear.

Give a few of them a shot.

Can they do any worse than Bacuna, Westwood, Richardson, Gabby? Seriously, Bacuna, complete bottle job who's on a 5 month holiday here now, he couldn't give less of a fuck if he tried. We have no young players with more heart than he has talent? Shut down Bodymoor Heath if that's the case as it's not worth it. Sellars or Hepburn Murphy can't work the lines better than 3 forwards who don't get out of 1st gear. Get out of here.

totally agree

grealish apart our academy has delivered fuck all in 4 seasons

so either loan them out at 18 not 21, integrate them to the first team. if we arent producing the right standard then shut it

[Salsa Party Animal]

We spend too much time trying to survive instead of grooming the kids for Premier League football. I say just throw in 3 kids and put one on the bench and hope it work out.

[paul_e]

We spend too much time trying to survive instead of grooming the kids for Premier League football. I say just throw in 3 kids and put one on the bench and hope it work out.

I largely agree, from what I've seen there are 5-6 in the U21 and U18 who are worth us now taking a look at.  Richardson in particular shouldn't ever be on bench again, if we need someone experienced to start then maybe but he did such a piss poor job of getting up the speed of the game yesterday that any idea of him being worth bringing on from the bench should be gone.  Honestly if that had been someone signed from abroad who came on and was that poor there'd be mention of Ali Dia.

[sendô WHU]

I really like the way opposing fans can come on here and give reasoned views without it resulting in slagging offs. Sends is obviously a reasonable poster, but even he is able, in his own mind, to ignore a blatant penalty when it involves his own team.

It's not because it involves West Ham. I'm a clear believer that ball to hand should not be a free kick or penalty. The laws of the game cover this quite clearly, the refs just need to apply the laws properly. For me it totally spoils a football match when a ref gives a penalty for a "handball" after the ball is blasted at a player from a couple of yards away and it strikes his hand, purely because he didn't have it shoved down the front of his shorts.

I agree with the general consensus that the officials need to be consistent though. It is frustrating as fans to see one ref give something one week, and the next week another ref gives the opposite decision in the same circumstances.

Best of luck lads next season. I hope you bounce straight back. It can be a fun league for one season - you win comfortably virtually every week and those of you with the time and spare cash can visit a lot of away grounds that you might never have been to.

[Risso]

Jerrell Sellars is 20. He's not 14. He should be on the bench. There should be a youth option as opposed to Kieran Richardson, he offers fuck all, he's knackered, his legs are shot to pieces but the u21's are kept locked in a cupboard for this mythical day when it's perfect for them to get a chance. Then they disappear.

Give a few of them a shot.

Can they do any worse than Bacuna, Westwood, Richardson, Gabby? Seriously, Bacuna, complete bottle job who's on a 5 month holiday here now, he couldn't give less of a fuck if he tried. We have no young players with more heart than he has talent? Shut down Bodymoor Heath if that's the case as it's not worth it. Sellars or Hepburn Murphy can't work the lines better than 3 forwards who don't get out of 1st gear. Get out of here.

totally agree

grealish apart our academy has delivered fuck all in 4 seasons

so either loan them out at 18 not 21, integrate them to the first team. if we arent producing the right standard then shut it

I also agree, although presently Grealish isn't looking like a very good advert for the academy either.

[paul_e]

I really like the way opposing fans can come on here and give reasoned views without it resulting in slagging offs. Sends is obviously a reasonable poster, but even he is able, in his own mind, to ignore a blatant penalty when it involves his own team.

It's not because it involves West Ham. I'm a clear believer that ball to hand should not be a free kick or penalty. The laws of the game cover this quite clearly, the refs just need to apply the laws properly. For me it totally spoils a football match when a ref gives a penalty for a "handball" after the ball is blasted at a player from a couple of yards away and it strikes his hand, purely because he didn't have it shoved down the front of his shorts.

I agree with the general consensus that the officials need to be consistent though. It is frustrating as fans to see one ref give something one week, and the next week another ref gives the opposite decision in the same circumstances.

Best of luck lads next season. I hope you bounce straight back. It can be a fun league for one season - you win comfortably virtually every week and those of you with the time and spare cash can visit a lot of away grounds that you might never have been to.

I agree that ball to hand needs to apply, I just don't see how having your arm out behind you like that can be considered ball to hand.  I honestly believe that the vast majority of referees would give that as a penalty 97-98 times in a 100.  We were incredibly hard done by.  What are your thoughts on Noble (twice) and Song both committing fouls to stop us breaking an none of the 3 incidents being considered a yellow card?  again those professional fouls are quite well established as yellow cards so it seems strange to see 3 ignored in the space of about 20 minutes.