Next Season: Anyone positive

[cdbearsfan]

I think that, since McLeish, Lerner has spent what he feels is the bare minimum to keep us up.

Now that the policy has failed I suspect he'll try to spend the bare minimum required to get us up next season.

My concern is that he might think the figure required is £0.

[aj2k77]

We have a few players here and there on big money....Richards, Gabby, CNZ.

I struggle to believe our total wage bill is anywhere near top half for this league, more like bottom 6 which reflects our annual finishing position.

The trouble is when you cut it to the bone and go down...it will then go back to being one of the higher in the championship, our revenue streams will be reduced so I'm guessing but we'd start to become in a bit of trouble with FFP which a few other relegated teams like Blackburn and Cardiff have had embargos put on them.

wages are 9th


Turnover 9th highest, £117m (up from £84m in 2013)

Gate and matchday £13m

TV and broadcasting £73m

Commercial £22m

Sponsorship £9m

Wage bill Joint 9th highest, £69m (down from £72m)

Wages as proportion of turnover 59%

Loss before tax £4m (following £52m loss in 2013)

Net debt £102m


the 3 biggest avenues of revenue are going to take a hammering

Wages aren't 9th. For last season we were 13th and I've no doubt our wage bill is less this season. Our revenue has also fallen behind West Ham and Southampton and we are only 11th now.

are the figures from published accounts? the figures i quoted are based on season ending may 2014, have we published last seasons then?

I took them from the deloitte money league figures that were released a few weeks ago. I think officially the club normally release the accounts towards the end of February.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

We have a few players here and there on big money....Richards, Gabby, CNZ.

I struggle to believe our total wage bill is anywhere near top half for this league, more like bottom 6 which reflects our annual finishing position.

The trouble is when you cut it to the bone and go down...it will then go back to being one of the higher in the championship, our revenue streams will be reduced so I'm guessing but we'd start to become in a bit of trouble with FFP which a few other relegated teams like Blackburn and Cardiff have had embargos put on them.

wages are 9th


Turnover 9th highest, £117m (up from £84m in 2013)

Gate and matchday £13m

TV and broadcasting £73m

Commercial £22m

Sponsorship £9m

Wage bill Joint 9th highest, £69m (down from £72m)

Wages as proportion of turnover 59%

Loss before tax £4m (following £52m loss in 2013)

Net debt £102m


the 3 biggest avenues of revenue are going to take a hammering

Wages aren't 9th. For last season we were 13th and I've no doubt our wage bill is less this season. Our revenue has also fallen behind West Ham and Southampton and we are only 11th now.

are the figures from published accounts? the figures i quoted are based on season ending may 2014, have we published last seasons then?

I took them from the deloitte money league figures that were released a few weeks ago. I think officially the club normally release the accounts towards the end of February.

thanks ill have a look

[ASHTONVILLA]

Well I was sitting on the fence, but now I am definitely in the not positive camp.

If the behaviour of the board and new chairman this window is anything to go by then I think we are in for a fire sale next season, with zero transfers incoming.

[Jimmy Buffett]

Sorry I'm interrupting the flow a little, but in response to the thread title, I'd have to say the answer is a resounding 'not sure yet'.

I love the idea of starting a season with more to play for than a mid table finish. I'm pleased I know there's a good chance I will see us win more games than we will lose. And above I'm ecstatic at the prospect of seeing a Villa captain emulate Sir Dennis of 81 and hold that trophy in its traditional home.


But...am I convinced we have the manager and board that can identify,  purchase, coach and motivate a team capable of going toe to toe with the cloggers of that league?
Absolutely... Remi Garde is an honest manager who is trying his best in a very dysfunctional situation. Do I believe that he has the grit or the experience to get us out of the championship? Not a chance even if he had a competent and commited owner and board, which is not the case, he would still struggle in a very physical league with the pantywaister  players at his disposal. We need a gutsy  slogger to get us back up.
I'm sorry but I'm not.

Because I saw nothing at Wycombe or at any point in Remi Gardes tenure for that matter to suggest we can.

I'm sorry lads. I like the way he speaks, but I'm astonished people have taken to him. It's been awful since the day he got here, and I refuse to believe there aren't others that could have done better.

[Jimmy Buffett]

Sorry I'm interrupting the flow a little, but in response to the thread title, I'd have to say the answer is a resounding 'not sure yet'.

I love the idea of starting a season with more to play for than a mid table finish. I'm pleased I know there's a good chance I will see us win more games than we will lose. And above I'm ecstatic at the prospect of seeing a Villa captain emulate Sir Dennis of 81 and hold that trophy in its traditional home.


But...am I convinced we have the manager and board that can identify,  purchase, coach and motivate a team capable of going toe to toe with the cloggers of that league?

I'm sorry but I'm not.

Because I saw nothing at Wycombe or at any point in Remi Gardes tenure for that matter to suggest we can.

I'm sorry lads. I like the way he speaks, but I'm astonished people have taken to him. It's been awful since the day he got here, and I refuse to believe there aren't others that could have done better.

Absolutely. Remi Garde is not the man to take us out of the championship. Even if we had a committed and competent board it would need a very different character to cope with life at this slogging level and that is before we get to look at the current group of panty waisters that make up our squad. Very bad times ahead I fear

[curiousorange]

The search for the nadir has years to run.

[PeterWithesShin]

Can Nadir play right back?

[curiousorange]

Can Nadir play right back?

He's currently filling most positions in the side.

[SoccerHQ]

We have a few players here and there on big money....Richards, Gabby, CNZ.

I struggle to believe our total wage bill is anywhere near top half for this league, more like bottom 6 which reflects our annual finishing position.

The trouble is when you cut it to the bone and go down...it will then go back to being one of the higher in the championship, our revenue streams will be reduced so I'm guessing but we'd start to become in a bit of trouble with FFP which a few other relegated teams like Blackburn and Cardiff have had embargos put on them.

wages are 9th


Turnover 9th highest, £117m (up from £84m in 2013)

Gate and matchday £13m

TV and broadcasting £73m

Commercial £22m

Sponsorship £9m

Wage bill Joint 9th highest, £69m (down from £72m)

Wages as proportion of turnover 59%

Loss before tax £4m (following £52m loss in 2013)

Net debt £102m


the 3 biggest avenues of revenue are going to take a hammering

Wages aren't 9th. For last season we were 13th and I've no doubt our wage bill is less this season. Our revenue has also fallen behind West Ham and Southampton and we are only 11th now.

are the figures from published accounts? the figures i quoted are based on season ending may 2014, have we published last seasons then?

I'm talking the here and now, May 2014 would have people like Benteke, Vlaar, Given, D*lph.

The french lads will be nowhere near what some of those were on. Mid table ligue une clubs don't pay their players 40k a week.

[DaveD]

They are stopping expense claims at the Academy. 10p a mile petrol allowance will soon be gone.

If that's not a classic sign of an accountant taking the reigns with an obvious agenda, I really don't know what is.

[pbavfckuwait]

We have had 5 years of reduced spending, yes agreed it had to happen after the poor management of funds when Lerner first came to the table as an excited kid, those cuts I believe Randy has not seen the effect he wanted, his first action to address was bring in Fox to increase revenue, to a certain extent if his dribble is to be believed this has happened, then Randy sees that Remi has not had the immediate effect on results, as I am sure Randy was the same as the rest of us, anyone can get more out of this squad than Tactics and in typical Villa pantomine style," Oh no he can't", decides roughly about Christmas time that we are foooked as a Premier league team this season, so lets get Reg Hollis in to cut back even further.

Players will have relegation clauses inserted I would imagine since TSM 1 came in the door, so what type of squad we will have for August 2016 god only knows, but what you can be guaranteed is that anyone coming in, will be costing less than what we have spent previously so probably 3 to 5 mill max and wages reflected as to what league we are playing in. Reduced revenue streams, alot of people made redundant in the summer from the non-playing side, wasters like Gabby still sucking the life blood from the club, so you can probably see next season in the Championship does not fill me with a feeling of being excited and positive, just dread.

[ROBBO]

If it is true as reported that we approached Michu then no, I mean first a goalkeeper that didn't qualify then a once upon a time very good player who has not played for years at any decent level. We are being led by idiots (Garde not included).

[PaulWinch again]

Not now, because I think the whole approach to running the club is a disaster. Given our inability to sign anyone (I hope I'm tempting fate), if I was Ayew or Veretout and the like I'd be trying to get out of the door asap. Signing players and showing ambition is needed for anyone connected with a club be that fans or players.

[aj2k77]

There's no quality player that can be cherry picked in the summer, there's a positive.