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Author Topic: Next Season: Anyone positive  (Read 25820 times)

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #165 on: January 31, 2016, 05:15:40 PM »
We have a few players here and there on big money....Richards, Gabby, CNZ.

I struggle to believe our total wage bill is anywhere near top half for this league, more like bottom 6 which reflects our annual finishing position.

The trouble is when you cut it to the bone and go down...it will then go back to being one of the higher in the championship, our revenue streams will be reduced so I'm guessing but we'd start to become in a bit of trouble with FFP which a few other relegated teams like Blackburn and Cardiff have had embargos put on them.

Offline wittonwarrior

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #166 on: January 31, 2016, 05:18:23 PM »
MK Dons which for the Villa should be 6 points.

Offline Tony Erdington

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #167 on: January 31, 2016, 05:31:30 PM »
I'm confident I will be at less games

Online Stu

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #168 on: January 31, 2016, 05:36:28 PM »
Fuck it, I'm going to VP more than I do now if we go down.

We're not like the fucking dogshitters and stripeys are we? Those two sets of mutants are famous for staying away when things get a bit grim.

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #169 on: January 31, 2016, 05:41:52 PM »
Revenue will go down, but so will wages by at least 30% due to the clauses that will able been inserted for such an eventuality. Only N'Zambia of the big earners would possibly be without a clause for a wage reduction but then that's irrelevant with that boil being lanced come May.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #170 on: January 31, 2016, 05:43:23 PM »
I'll go as often as funds allow me same as every season. I go to watch the Villa, not who we're playing. Plus the only notable stuff i've seen of Championship sides this season, MK today, Derby on Friday night and sha at ours, the standard is gash and 2 of them are hoping for promotion. Even right now i'd back us to beat those 3.

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #171 on: January 31, 2016, 05:45:10 PM »
Revenue will go down, but so will wages by at least 30% due to the clauses that will able been inserted for such an eventuality. Only N'Zambia of the big earners would possibly be without a clause for a wage reduction but then that's irrelevant with that boil being lanced come May.
You reckon these clowns have had the gumption to put in relegation clauses?

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #172 on: January 31, 2016, 06:08:47 PM »
Revenue will go down, but so will wages by at least 30% due to the clauses that will able been inserted for such an eventuality. Only N'Zambia of the big earners would possibly be without a clause for a wage reduction but then that's irrelevant with that boil being lanced come May.
You reckon these clowns have had the gumption to put in relegation clauses?

Yes, regardless of how many times you ask that question.

Offline oswald funkletrumpet

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #173 on: January 31, 2016, 06:17:00 PM »
We have a few players here and there on big money....Richards, Gabby, CNZ.

I struggle to believe our total wage bill is anywhere near top half for this league, more like bottom 6 which reflects our annual finishing position.

The trouble is when you cut it to the bone and go down...it will then go back to being one of the higher in the championship, our revenue streams will be reduced so I'm guessing but we'd start to become in a bit of trouble with FFP which a few other relegated teams like Blackburn and Cardiff have had embargos put on them.

wages are 9th


Turnover 9th highest, £117m (up from £84m in 2013)

Gate and matchday £13m

TV and broadcasting £73m

Commercial £22m

Sponsorship £9m

Wage bill Joint 9th highest, £69m (down from £72m)

Wages as proportion of turnover 59%

Loss before tax £4m (following £52m loss in 2013)

Net debt £102m


the 3 biggest avenues of revenue are going to take a hammering
« Last Edit: January 31, 2016, 06:19:58 PM by oswald funkletrumpet »

Offline ez

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #174 on: January 31, 2016, 06:22:36 PM »
We have a few players here and there on big money....Richards, Gabby, CNZ.

I struggle to believe our total wage bill is anywhere near top half for this league, more like bottom 6 which reflects our annual finishing position.

The trouble is when you cut it to the bone and go down...it will then go back to being one of the higher in the championship, our revenue streams will be reduced so I'm guessing but we'd start to become in a bit of trouble with FFP which a few other relegated teams like Blackburn and Cardiff have had embargos put on them.

Just as depressing as not signing anyone is CNZ and Agbonlahor have not been offloaded.

Offline oswald funkletrumpet

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #175 on: January 31, 2016, 06:27:58 PM »
We have a few players here and there on big money....Richards, Gabby, CNZ.

I struggle to believe our total wage bill is anywhere near top half for this league, more like bottom 6 which reflects our annual finishing position.

The trouble is when you cut it to the bone and go down...it will then go back to being one of the higher in the championship, our revenue streams will be reduced so I'm guessing but we'd start to become in a bit of trouble with FFP which a few other relegated teams like Blackburn and Cardiff have had embargos put on them.

Just as depressing as not signing anyone is CNZ and Agbonlahor have not been offloaded.

totally agree but nzog is a free agent at the end of the season and no one is stupid enough to take flabby

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #176 on: January 31, 2016, 06:42:29 PM »
We have a few players here and there on big money....Richards, Gabby, CNZ.

I struggle to believe our total wage bill is anywhere near top half for this league, more like bottom 6 which reflects our annual finishing position.

The trouble is when you cut it to the bone and go down...it will then go back to being one of the higher in the championship, our revenue streams will be reduced so I'm guessing but we'd start to become in a bit of trouble with FFP which a few other relegated teams like Blackburn and Cardiff have had embargos put on them.

wages are 9th


Turnover 9th highest, £117m (up from £84m in 2013)

Gate and matchday £13m

TV and broadcasting £73m

Commercial £22m

Sponsorship £9m

Wage bill Joint 9th highest, £69m (down from £72m)

Wages as proportion of turnover 59%

Loss before tax £4m (following £52m loss in 2013)

Net debt £102m


the 3 biggest avenues of revenue are going to take a hammering


Wages aren't 9th. For last season we were 13th and I've no doubt our wage bill is less this season. Our revenue has also fallen behind West Ham and Southampton and we are only 11th now.

Offline Tony Erdington

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #177 on: January 31, 2016, 06:46:41 PM »
We have a few players here and there on big money....Richards, Gabby, CNZ.

I struggle to believe our total wage bill is anywhere near top half for this league, more like bottom 6 which reflects our annual finishing position.

The trouble is when you cut it to the bone and go down...it will then go back to being one of the higher in the championship, our revenue streams will be reduced so I'm guessing but we'd start to become in a bit of trouble with FFP which a few other relegated teams like Blackburn and Cardiff have had embargos put on them.

Just as depressing as not signing anyone is CNZ and Agbonlahor have not been offloaded.

totally agree but nzog is a free agent at the end of the season and no one is stupid enough to take flabby

On the stupid stakes we are in with a shout, for stupidous ****** see Randy, he may sanction a bid

Offline oswald funkletrumpet

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #178 on: January 31, 2016, 07:03:11 PM »
We have a few players here and there on big money....Richards, Gabby, CNZ.

I struggle to believe our total wage bill is anywhere near top half for this league, more like bottom 6 which reflects our annual finishing position.

The trouble is when you cut it to the bone and go down...it will then go back to being one of the higher in the championship, our revenue streams will be reduced so I'm guessing but we'd start to become in a bit of trouble with FFP which a few other relegated teams like Blackburn and Cardiff have had embargos put on them.

wages are 9th


Turnover 9th highest, £117m (up from £84m in 2013)

Gate and matchday £13m

TV and broadcasting £73m

Commercial £22m

Sponsorship £9m

Wage bill Joint 9th highest, £69m (down from £72m)

Wages as proportion of turnover 59%

Loss before tax £4m (following £52m loss in 2013)

Net debt £102m


the 3 biggest avenues of revenue are going to take a hammering


Wages aren't 9th. For last season we were 13th and I've no doubt our wage bill is less this season. Our revenue has also fallen behind West Ham and Southampton and we are only 11th now.

are the figures from published accounts? the figures i quoted are based on season ending may 2014, have we published last seasons then?

Offline mr woo

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Re: Next Season: Anyone positive
« Reply #179 on: January 31, 2016, 07:10:31 PM »
Sorry I'm interrupting the flow a little, but in response to the thread title, I'd have to say the answer is a resounding 'not sure yet'.

I love the idea of starting a season with more to play for than a mid table finish. I'm pleased I know there's a good chance I will see us win more games than we will lose. And above I'm ecstatic at the prospect of seeing a Villa captain emulate Sir Dennis of 81 and hold that trophy in its traditional home.


But...am I convinced we have the manager and board that can identify,  purchase, coach and motivate a team capable of going toe to toe with the cloggers of that league?

I'm sorry but I'm not.

Because I saw nothing at Wycombe or at any point in Remi Gardes tenure for that matter to suggest we can.

I'm sorry lads. I like the way he speaks, but I'm astonished people have taken to him. It's been awful since the day he got here, and I refuse to believe there aren't others that could have done better.

 


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