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Online aj2k77

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #195 on: January 26, 2016, 04:41:13 PM »
I'd love to know who we've been scouting the past 6 months, seeing as from day one we've looked garbage up front. Apparently we have a horde of scouts, Striker should have been our number 1 target but they seemingly can't find anyone who fits the bill of being better than Gestede. It's not like we're asking for Alan Shearer in his pomp, just someone who can move a little bit more than a stalagmite.

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #196 on: January 26, 2016, 04:57:40 PM »
Remy should have been the player we replaced Benteke with.

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #197 on: January 26, 2016, 05:21:40 PM »
Sunderland, Norwich,Newcastle,Bournemouth, all relegation rivals and all buying quality forwards. Mr Lerner have you completely taken leave of your senses? This year more than any other is the year to spend. Fucking hell it's not rocket science is it? I'm watching sky sports news getting more and more angry the more I think about it.

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #198 on: January 26, 2016, 05:23:12 PM »
It's quite simple, we have given up. We found ourselves too far behind because of incompetent summer business and now have given up.

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #199 on: January 26, 2016, 05:30:16 PM »
It's quite simple, we have given up. We found ourselves too far behind because of incompetent summer business and now have given up.
Yes I agree. The words piss up and brewery spring to mind. Disgraceful way to run any organisation let alone our beloved Villa.

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #200 on: January 26, 2016, 06:18:36 PM »
I think he is a good player and would have taken him last summer. In fairness Pulis fc had 3 strikers on the pitch today but never looked like shooting at goal. What a fucking insult to football that knob is. No wonder Berahino is so desperate to get out.

Can't think who TSF is talking about in this article

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There is a manager in the Premier League right now, a manager who is causing problems for his club.

The manager wants to sell one of the club’s star players. He hasn’t been playing him but, for everyone on the outside looking in, he should have been.

It doesn’t make sense, right? Read on …

Apparently, the player has been training well, according to reports that I’ve heard. He’s got his head down lately but that might be because it’s January and he wants to leave. In fact, I know he wants to leave.

The players in the changing-room tell me that he wants to leave and they tell me that they want him to leave because he is a troublemaker. That isn’t a secret, either, because his reputation is that of a troublemaker.

But he’s a good player. And the club could really do with him right now.

The chairman doesn’t really want to sell him as he sees the player’s involvement as integral to the club’s Premier League survival. But the manager doesn’t.

But why would a manager want to sell a player who can help him to survive in the Premier League? Well, as you might have guessed, there is a reason for that.

The club in question could expect a transfer fee of around £30 million if they decide to cash in. But the chairman sees the bigger picture, namely that £30 million up front does not make up for £100 million lost if the club goes down.

However, the manager sees that he could have £30 million to spend on new talent. He can get three, maybe four, new players.

But January isn’t a friendly month for recruiting top talent. It is a stopgap month. It is a month that fills in the blanks with “ifs, buts and maybes”.

A cover in the centre-half position in case the first-choice pairing get injured? Sure, why not? For £5 million, it just might save the day.

A striker to come off the bench during the run-in to score a couple of vital goals? Sure, free transfer and a year’s contract on £75,000 a week, easy. It stacks up and makes sense.

It’s a bet that you can’t really lose so long as you can get rid of him if the worst should happen and you’re not massively overexposed for any length of time.

But this player isn’t a stopgap, he is a future star for a big club. Everybody knows it.

And that’s where the problem is. The chairman knows what is happening. He knows what his manager is doing. He knows that if he gives in and sells the player, then the manager will spend the money.

That’s not an inherently bad thing. His problem is that he knows where that money is going.

He knows that if the manager is given the money, he will only buy players that are brought to the club through his agent and, in the process, he will pocket a wacking great windfall through cuts of the transfer fee that he’ll split with his agent.

The chairman knows this and is digging his heels in. Everybody in football knows this.

The chairman knows that the manager will spend the money for the sake of spending it because he may not be there in the summer, anyway, and he wants as big a slice of that £30 million pie as he can get before he’s gone and a new manager comes in and the opportunity is lost.

And this is the problem that chairmen up and down the country have when they employ managers who they know to be stopgaps themselves.

Those managers go in, make hay while the sun shines, do the best they can tactically and take anything that isn’t nailed down with them when they are inevitably fired and the managerial cycle brings about the return to the club of the five-year-plan manager a year or two later.

At this moment, there is no trust between the club and the manager.

The chairman does not want to give him any proceeds from a sale of the player because he wants to maximise his return.

And the manager is trying every trick in the book to have the player sold by making him sit very publicly on the bench while telling the world what a great lad he is and that, at the moment, he just doesn’t fit into the style and shape of the team.

The problem for the chairman, besides having a very expensive asset sat on the bench that he is neither leveraging financially or benefitting from on the pitch, is that it will look incredibly odd if he sacks his manager now.

The manager has actually done OK for the club and, in terms of results, it is certainly a case of better the devil you know when it comes to securing Premier League status this campaign.

The player will be sold one day, probably in the summer, but my guess is that it won’t be while this manager is in charge.

In the meantime, we have to watch the starvation of a talented player caught between the stars and the personal agendas of unscrupulous people at the highest level, at the heart of our game.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2016, 06:21:01 PM by Dave »

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #201 on: January 26, 2016, 06:26:09 PM »
That article couldn't suggest Pulis more if you ran three stripes down its sides and popped a baseball cap on it.

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #202 on: January 26, 2016, 06:28:38 PM »
It's quite simple, we have given up. We found ourselves too far behind because of incompetent summer business and now have given up.
Yes I agree. The words piss up and brewery spring to mind. Disgraceful way to run any organisation let alone our beloved Villa.

Was just saying this to my lad. It's like we're just dropping out of the League quietly, no mess, no fuss.

Let's hope the same doesn't happen next season as well.

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #203 on: January 26, 2016, 06:47:50 PM »
That article couldn't suggest Pulis more if you ran three stripes down its sides and popped a baseball cap on it.

I wonder is that why Mourinho brought Falcao to Chelsea (knew he was likely buggered but at least he could share any fee with the agent shared by Mou/Cao).

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #204 on: January 26, 2016, 07:02:12 PM »
That article should be in the Modern Football is Shite part 2,367' thread.
Depressing, for any football fan. 

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #205 on: January 26, 2016, 07:08:55 PM »
It's quite simple, we have given up. We found ourselves too far behind because of incompetent summer business and now have given up.
Yes I agree. The words piss up and brewery spring to mind. Disgraceful way to run any organisation let alone our beloved Villa.


Agree with above.

So our manager came in, knowing the chances of us going down where highly likely, so some one help me with the motivation of anyone at VP, including the guy currently in the hot seat. I'm now understanding why we didn't go for a manager with premiership experience - they wouldn't come. Randy your an arsehole.

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #206 on: January 26, 2016, 07:16:14 PM »
That article should be in the Modern Football is Shite part 2,367' thread.
Depressing, for any football fan. 

Isn't it just.

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #207 on: January 26, 2016, 07:36:13 PM »
'All we are saying is give goals a chance.'

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #208 on: January 26, 2016, 07:45:35 PM »
That article should be in the Modern Football is Shite part 2,367' thread.
Depressing, for any football fan. 

Surely in this day and age a manager can't get away with splitting fees with agents?

And how the hell doesn't Paul Kitson get sued for this?

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Re: The why aren't we signing a new striker thread....
« Reply #209 on: January 26, 2016, 07:52:24 PM »
Kitson in turn splits his fees with other rogue secret footballers who keep the column fresh by offering different insights into the jolly japes and antics they all get up to in football world plc.

 


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