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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #360 on: April 17, 2016, 02:04:40 PM »
I don't read it that way. He's offering to help. It's not like he's unemployed, he has a very well paid job.

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #361 on: April 17, 2016, 02:11:04 PM »
Same here TV. That's a passionate rant and clearly from the heart. I'm no big SVC fan, but I wish just one of our players cared as much.

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #362 on: April 17, 2016, 02:13:59 PM »
His help would "guarantee success". Wow.

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #363 on: April 17, 2016, 02:20:51 PM »
Can't fault much of what he says, except he'd be better off saying all this to Brian Little, not airing it in the media.

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #364 on: April 17, 2016, 02:21:29 PM »
His help would "guarantee success". Wow.

Obviously there's a lot of ego in there but I think a good part of it is his exposure to how other clubs have done it. His job has allowed him access to a lot of clubs that have set up systems that he would want us to consider. I like some of his ideas because I don't think in many ways we have ever broken away from Ellis' corner shop mentality and lots of clubs have just passed us by. The structure at Villa is broken and we need to catch up as quickly as possible. It isn't just money that will fix the problem either. It is a ground up rebuilding in every department that is needed and what he is suggesting or has suggested at other times.

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #365 on: April 17, 2016, 02:22:27 PM »
Can't fault much of what he says, except he'd be better off saying all this to Brian Little, not airing it in the media.

He can't even have a coffee with Sir Brian without telling the world, so no chance of that.

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #366 on: April 17, 2016, 02:23:09 PM »
Fucking hell this Collymore bloke sounds good, what experience does he have in these roles? Can't wait to hear the references.

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #367 on: April 17, 2016, 02:25:52 PM »
His help would "guarantee success". Wow.

Obviously there's a lot of ego in there but I think a good part of it is his exposure to how other clubs have done it. His job has allowed him access to a lot of clubs that have set up systems that he would want us to consider. I like some of his ideas because I don't think in many ways we have ever broken away from Ellis' corner shop mentality and lots of clubs have just passed us by. The structure at Villa is broken and we need to catch up as quickly as possible. It isn't just money that will fix the problem either. It is a ground up rebuilding in every department that is needed and what he is suggesting or has suggested at other times.

And there's no problem with him suggesting his ideas.

But is he the most qualified person out there to implement them? And if so, what qualifies him?

If we hired someone whose only experience was a radio presenter and footballer who hadn't been connected with Villa, this board would explode. Because Collymore played mostly poorly for us and wants to make up for it this makes him the best person for the job?

Haven't we hired enough under qualified people in the last five years to have learnt a lesson?

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #368 on: April 17, 2016, 02:37:46 PM »
The one thing that's clear about Collymore is that he can't bear the slightest bit of criticism without flying off the handle. That alone makes him unsuitable for any job at a football club.

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #369 on: April 17, 2016, 02:40:52 PM »
I'm listening to him commentate on the Leicester game. I've said it before but he keeps saying "likkle", so for that reason alone i'm out.

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #370 on: April 17, 2016, 02:43:34 PM »
But he's not asking to be the Chief Executive Sheffield. He's offering himself in a Brian Marwood role or he's mentioned before as an ambassador to the club or consultant. He's throwing out various scenarios but what would the qualifications be for a football specific role at the club? He's been in the game a long time and as I was pointing out his access behind the scenes at other clubs puts him in a very unique position. And as I've said before I don't think he'd be the mouthpiece he is now because the job wouldn't allow it. He is what he is because his job affords him licence to speak his mind.

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #371 on: April 17, 2016, 02:48:55 PM »
But he's not asking to be the Chief Executive Sheffield. He's offering himself in a Brian Marwood role or he's mentioned before as an ambassador to the club or consultant. He's throwing out various scenarios but what would the qualifications be for a football specific role at the club? He's been in the game a long time and as I was pointing out his access behind the scenes at other clubs puts him in a very unique position. And as I've said before I don't think he'd be the mouthpiece he is now because the job wouldn't allow it. He is what he is because his job affords him licence to speak his mind.

In his post, he appears to be talking about being a scout, a player liaison and a youth recruitment officer.

Qualifications - having done it before?

Brian Marwood is in an executive role, by the way. Football Administration Officer. He was given this role as he had experience as an executive being Chairman of the PFA and a Marketing Manager for Nike. He also has various administrative and business qualifications. Not because he spouted off on the radio every Saturday.

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #372 on: April 17, 2016, 02:53:35 PM »
Ok the Marwood example wasn't great. It's something he's mentioned and clearly Marwood was cut out for that given his prior experience. But for the other stuff he's mentioned, I don't see why not. We've been asking to have football knowledge at the club and he has it. And as for prior experience of scouting, it's not like our existing scouting network with all their experience are proving their worth. It would be hard to do worse.

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #373 on: April 17, 2016, 02:53:47 PM »
I have likkle doubt he would still spout off. He strikes me (well he doesn't because i'm not a woman *baddumtish) as someone that can't help it. As I said earlier, he couldn't even go for a coffee without telling everyone numerous times. And as Dave says, he can't take criticism. Even if I liked him i'd be convinced it would end in tears.

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Re: Stanley Victor Collymore
« Reply #374 on: April 17, 2016, 02:55:44 PM »
Ok the Marwood example wasn't great. It's something he's mentioned and clearly Marwood was cut out for that given his prior experience. But for the other stuff he's mentioned, I don't see why not. We've been asking to have football knowledge at the club and he has it. And as for prior experience of scouting, it's not like our existing scouting network with all their experience are proving their worth. It would be hard to do worse.

It'd be quite easy to do better though, by appointing scouts who'd done it before and with success at other clubs.

 


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