Boxing thread 2016

[joecrow]

The thing with Joshua is he has very quick hands (both in action and in spotting chances) compared to most heavyweights.  Given that if you let any decent heavyweight catch you on the chin you're going down having someone who picks gaps as well as him means he's always a good bet to KO someone in the first 3-4.  After that it all becomes a bit more difficult to predict because it's uncharted territory but if you put an undefeated world champion on his arse twice in the 2nd round you're over the 'he's not fought anyone' hump and you have to be looked at as the real deal.

I don't want him to fight Haye, AJ gets nothing from that fight right now, Wilder, Ortiz or Fury should be the ones he's looking at.  I'm ignoring Klitschko because I don't think that fight will happen because Klitschko gets nothing from it.

Ortiz is a good shout.

[rob_bridge]

The thing with Joshua is he has very quick hands (both in action and in spotting chances) compared to most heavyweights.  Given that if you let any decent heavyweight catch you on the chin you're going down having someone who picks gaps as well as him means he's always a good bet to KO someone in the first 3-4.  After that it all becomes a bit more difficult to predict because it's uncharted territory but if you put an undefeated world champion on his arse twice in the 2nd round you're over the 'he's not fought anyone' hump and you have to be looked at as the real deal.

I don't want him to fight Haye, AJ gets nothing from that fight right now, Wilder, Ortiz or Fury should be the ones he's looking at.  I'm ignoring Klitschko because I don't think that fight will happen because Klitschko gets nothing from it.

Ortiz is a good shout.

When Mike Tyson was in his pomp 86-89 the one thing that was often overlooked was his hand speed. Yes he could poleaxe a boxer with a shot but only because many opponents couldn't see it coming.

[peter w]

After a defeat I think Klitschko needs Joshua for his his so-called legacy. if he dodges Joshua it will need to be a retirement because he has very few fights left.

[joecrow]

After a defeat I think Klitschko needs Joshua for his his so-called legacy. if he dodges Joshua it will need to be a retirement because he has very few fights left.

I think Klitschko retires win or lose after Fury. Too many real challengers now.

[peter w]

That's when ego and greed kick in. To show that the Fury defeat was a one off.

[paul_e]

After a defeat I think Klitschko needs Joshua for his his so-called legacy. if he dodges Joshua it will need to be a retirement because he has very few fights left.

I think Klitschko retires win or lose after Fury. Too many real challengers now.

I agree, I think he really wanted to retire after the last fight but can't just doesn't want to go having been beaten by such a poor boxer. 

[bertlambshank]

After a defeat I think Klitschko needs Joshua for his his so-called legacy. if he dodges Joshua it will need to be a retirement because he has very few fights left.

I think Klitschko retires win or lose after Fury. Too many real challengers now.

I agree, I think he really wanted to retire after the last fight but can't just doesn't want to go having been beaten by such a poor boxer. 

He has been stinking out the heavyweight division for years,and don't get me started on the twisted contracts he made the challengers sign.I hope Fury does him again.After that I hope anybody takes Fury out.

[peter w]

But that's just it. Winning this time for Klitschko needs to be in a very quick knock out for him to be able to retire. Otherwise his reputation will go with the fury defeat. that's what he'll be remembered for in the short to mid-term. Wins this and he has little choice to agree to a bum - which makes no sense for him at this stage and will add nothing - to a third fight with Fury - which allows him to go out with a reputation restored and the defeat as just one bad night but it opens him up another defeat that will leave him looking like a poor champion in a poor era. joshua is the last thing he probably wants but may need to risk if he cares about how he will be perceived.

[joecrow]

After a defeat I think Klitschko needs Joshua for his his so-called legacy. if he dodges Joshua it will need to be a retirement because he has very few fights left.

I think Klitschko retires win or lose after Fury. Too many real challengers now.

I agree, I think he really wanted to retire after the last fight but can't just doesn't want to go having been beaten by such a poor boxer. 

He has been stinking out the heavyweight division for years,and don't get me started on the twisted contracts he made the challengers sign.I hope Fury does him again.After that I hope anybody takes Fury out.

100% agree. Terrible for the sport.

[PaulWinch again]

They won't put him in with Fury yet,it's Haye next.

Severley doubt it Haye is fighting in May and Joshua fights in July.

[tomd2103]

They won't put him in with Fury yet,it's Haye next.

Severley doubt it Haye is fighting in May and Joshua fights in July.

In the post fight conversation, Haye said he has two fights lined up this year, one in the summer and then against Briggs in September.

[Drummond]

Haye is dangerous,  Joshua still learning. There's no way Joshua's people will take that risk yet.

I'd have thought an easy defence in July and in the meantime wait to see what happens with Fury and Klitschko.

[Ron Manager]

I think Fury will keep away from Joshua after seeing that demolition. Probably go for Wilder if he beats Klitschko again which he may well do.The heavyweight division is in fine fettle at the moment.

[tomd2103]

I think Fury will keep away from Joshua after seeing that demolition. Probably go for Wilder if he beats Klitschko again which he may well do.The heavyweight division is in fine fettle at the moment.

Although the quality of fighters is not the level it was during the era of Ali, Foreman etc. at least there is some genuine excitement back in the division.  There are six fighters now around that top bracket who should provide massive fights should they meet.

[JD]

I'd still like to see Joshua v Joseph Parker