Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Off Topic => Sports Arena => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on January 16, 2016, 09:46:45 PM
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New year, new thread.
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Lasted long he didn't fancy that at all.
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Well, that was quick from Haye. Not sure it tells us an awful lot though.
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OK show some of the undercard.
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Well, that was quick from Haye. Not sure it tells us an awful lot though.
I guess it shows that he's got all the power he always had. Doesn't show if he's worked out how to break a strong defence though.
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Job done. Quite clinical.
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Still has his power.
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His Footwork was always his problem.
He used to do the splits planting his feet before offloading.
Changing to the 'boxing David' camp should help.
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He looked much more like a heavyweight. Considering that guy was ranked 10 and has only lost once, I do wonder who he has been fighting! Never seen a chin waved saying hit me please more freely.
I would enjoy Haye knocking out Fury, were it to happen
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There was a time when boxers with beards had to shave them off before a fight. When did that change then?
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I see Fury made a spectacle of himself at the Wilder fight in the US.
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Anyone else watching Boxnation?
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I am now.what have I missed?
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A prospect v journeyman four rounder.
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Caught the last round.
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The bloke from Dudley looks a bit second best.
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The ref should off stopped this long ago.
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I thin k it was called off at the right time but a good performance regardless.
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Nice finish from Ryan Walsh.
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I've seen George Groves interviewed a few times prior to his fight on Saturday, he's looks and sounds a lost, defeated uninterested boxer already.
I think his last loss has really done him in.
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He actually doesn't sound 100% coherent.
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Decent bout involving John ryder and some Russian dude on sky, on the Groves undercard.
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He actually doesn't sound 100% coherent.
I thought he was slurring a bit. Took some big shots in his career.
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Hibbert v Martin is men against boys so far.
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Hibbert v Martin is men against boys so far.
Cracking fight now
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Hibbert v Martin is men against boys so far.
Cracking fight now
Very. I have it Hibbert 87-85
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Hibbert v Martin is men against boys so far.
Cracking fight now
Very. I have it Hibbert 87-85
I wouldn't argue with that
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107-103 now.
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Martin seems to have run out of steam
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Hibbert deserved to win. Best career performance. British boxing really is in great nick at the moment.
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Hibbert deserved to win. Best career performance. British boxing really is in great nick at the moment.
Good performance from Martin as well. He'll learn more from that than a dozen 60-54 wins against journeymen.
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Hibbert deserved to win. Best career performance. British boxing really is in great nick at the moment.
Good performance from Martin as well. He'll learn more from that than a dozen 60-54 wins against journeymen.
Both up for a rematch, something to look forward to.
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FUCK OFFFFFFFFF!!!!!
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Now to see if Groves has anything left in the tank. Still think Froch destroyed him mentally, but you never know.
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Embarrassing entrance
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Watching with the volume off now. A fucking band!?!
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Watching with the volume off now. A fucking band!?!
Not A fucking band. THAT fucking band.
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Watching with the volume off now. A fucking band!?!
Not A fucking band. THAT fucking band.
Should be docked a point. Shocking
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which band?
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which band?
The England band no less
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jesus
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Playing their brand of shite during the fight. Cringeworthy.
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Groves mis-match aside, some decent fights there tonight.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/35461651
God almighty that is a sad story.
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Don't worry even Malta wouldn't give him a licence to fight.
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Khan vs Alvarez is an interesting fight.
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I can't wait to see Joshua v Parker in the Heavyweights. I think that will define the future of Heavyweight Boxing.
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I see Fury is going on about never fighting again. I know lots of people find his personality entertaining, I find him pretty tedious. If you don't want to defend your titles and create a legacy then get lost.
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Shit...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35503937
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Bold move to put Joshua in a World title fight at this stage.
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Bold move to put Joshua in a World title fight at this stage.
I see Sky's promoting bandwagon has started in earnest.
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Bold move to put Joshua in a World title fight at this stage.
Quite a good move seeing as the bloke he is fighting isn't that much more experienced as him.
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So, what do you reckon, Quigg or Frampton? Frampton for me on points.
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I think Quigg will stop him.
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Frampton late on for me.
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Everything points to Frampton but I think Quigg is capable of more than he's so far shown. Whoever wins, it should be a cracker.
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Evening all.
Hoping the boxing proves an antidote for another shite Saturday.
Can't split them for the main event, but slightly leaning towards Frampton as the more complete fighter.
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2 out of 2 for the Tyson Fury's cousins, Isaac lowe looked particularly impressive.
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Tyson was sporting a lovely manbag.
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Tyson was sporting a lovely manbag.
Strange man is Mr Fury
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Eddie Hearns getting stick from the crowd. Sounds very pro Frampton.
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Let's see how times Froch talks about himself.
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Well that's swung it for me. MON in Frampton dressing room. C'mon Quigg.
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I think Frampton will be too good for Quigg
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For pay per view it's been piss poor so far.
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For pay per view it's been piss poor so far.
Agreed. Certainly glad I never parted with cash.
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For pay per view it's been piss poor so far.
Agreed. Certainly glad I never parted with cash.
yep.
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It should be illegal to play stupid bloody music between fights.
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Jimmy nesbitt seems to be having a good night.
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It should be illegal to play stupid bloody music between fights.
Too fucking right.
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Jimmy nesbitt seems to be having a good night.
I wouldn't bet against him if he's got his bracelet on.
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Jimmy nesbitt seems to be having a good night.
Are Man Utd at home tomorrow? What a wig wearing ******.
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For pay per view it's been piss poor so far.
Doesn't need to be good, just hyped.
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Naz will have his own moon soon.
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Buffer doesn't look well.
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For pay per view it's been piss poor so far.
You don't need big names, just well-matched fights.
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Buffer doesn't look well.
Manchester will do that to you
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He didn't expect that.
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For pay per view it's been piss poor so far.
You don't need big names, just well-matched fights.
Please forward that to Eddie Hearn.
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Frampton looking comfortable. Quigg looking nervous.
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Frampton 3 up after 4 for me.
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Make that 4 after 5.
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6 rounds gone, about 5 punches thrown in total. It's like watching Audley sparring against his reflection.
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Frampton up by 5 with 6 gone. Quigg looks lost
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Quigg needs the stoppage already.
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That fucking band.
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That fucking band.
******.
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If Quigg doesn't knock Frampton out I think he's getting too far behind here.
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Frampton up by 5 with 6 gone. Quigg looks lost
Not sure about that. I think it could be closer than that.
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Certainly closer now
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Jim watt has it level I give up on Sky.
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Frampton 3 up for me
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Jim watt has it level I give up on Sky.
Then when Frampton gets it he'll say he was always in control.
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Jim watt has it level I give up on Sky.
The first 3-4 rounds you could easily have given even.
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Jim watt has it level I give up on Sky.
The first 3-4 rounds you could easily have given even.
Not a chance.
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Is it going to be a draw with a over hyped rematch?
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Frampton by 4 rematch in September.
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Frampton by 1
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Frampton for me. Quigg blew it with the slow start
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Frampton by 4 rematch in September.
Spot on apart from the knob.
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There'll be a rematch after the second half of the fight.
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Certainly closer now
Quigg looked a different fighter after he was told he was 6-1 down.
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Jim watt has it level I give up on Sky.
The first 3-4 rounds you could easily have given even.
Not a chance.
I had it 2-2 after the first four.
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I had a few to drink on Saturday night ( drowning my Villa sorrows), sorted out the pay-per view at 9pm and the next thing I remember is waking up on the settee at 3am, having missed the entire scrap.
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There'll be a rematch after the second half of the fight.
Doubt it, he will go for another fighter or go up a weight
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Sam Eggington should have a good test tonight, Kal will be taking another step towards an inevitable world title and his little/big brother should get his first title.
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Impressive start from Gamal
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Good win but a bit classless at the end.
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Confident young man that's for sure
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Well that one was quick.
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Lovely right hook
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And another one...
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This one's lasting a bit longer.
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Good performance from Skeete.
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Anyone else watching tonight?
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Yes...Flanagan for me....hard to go for Derry Matthews
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Yes...Flanagan for me....hard to go for Derry Matthews
But it could be a cracker whie it lasts.
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I enjoyed the Langford fight ...but by an 8 margin...no chance 4 at the most.
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I enjoyed the Langford fight ...but by an 8 margin...no chance 4 at the most.
And there was a nice SOTV, just to remind us what obsession's all about.
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Coventry Utd fans singing it at Bromsgrove this p.m
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Should have been docked a point at the previous warning stage!!!
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It's not a bad fight but world title class it ain't.
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Blackwell v Saunders or Brook at 1/25. Tough choice.
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Been working on a block of flats in bow east London the caretaker there is Charlie Magri he comes over and chats about his fights all day long such a pleasure to meet him lovely guy
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Been working on a block of flats in bow east London the caretaker there is Charlie Magri he comes over and chats about his fights all day long such a pleasure to meet him lovely guy
Almost without exception, boxers are. Magri must be a great one to listen to.
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Brilliant fight so far, Eubank not having it all his own way which is just what he needed
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What perfect timing Eubank/Blackwell finishes just as Kel Brook starts.
Was a great fight....brutal at times
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Let's hope Blackwell is alright.
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Let's hope Blackwell is alright.
The swelling was immense wasn't it.
The Kel Brook fight didn't last long.....that was a mandatory defence!!!
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Sounds like Blackwell is okay.
As for the fight...I was always of Chris Eubank fan even before his first fight against Benn so in turn I'm keeping an eye on eubank Jnr. First time I've seen him fight and you can see that he has something about him. Not as good as his dad mind, and I take his age into consideration, but i don't think he has a shot as big as his dad's, i don't think he's got a fighting brain like his dad in as much as when Snr smelled vistory he was ruthless. I think jnr needs to learn that. The stoppage was coming but Snr would have done it two or three rounds earlier without the need of the doctor.
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Fury fight delayed - this doesn't sound good.
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Let's hope Blackwell is alright.
The swelling was immense wasn't it.
The Kel Brook fight didn't last long.....that was a mandatory defence!!!
I see what you mean Dave, just watched end of fight recording, i didn't realise he had got stretchered out.
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They said he gave thumbs up as he left but now the anaesthetist is still in there. That's a worry.
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Let's hope Blackwell is alright.
Indeed i really hope he's ok.
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Worrying tweets about a bleed on the brain. It shows how dangerous boxing can be.
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Just seen some footage of Eubank snr telling his son he thinks Blackwell is getting hurt and to lay of the head and go to the body
Now that is class, probably Watson memory inspired
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Didn't he say that he'd win by going for the body rather than the head?
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Channel 4 presenter criticised for asking Chris Eubank Jr to choose between Nick Blackwell's health and his title .
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/channel-4-presenter-criticised-after-asking-chris-eubank-jr-to-chose-between-nick-blackwells-health-a6959446.html
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Fundraising. https://crowdfunding.justgiving.com/warriorblackwell?utm_id=89
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Looking forward to the Scotty cardle/Sean Dodd rematch. Enjoyed the 1st so a lot to live up to.
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Looking forward to the Scotty cardle/Sean Dodd rematch. Enjoyed the 1st so a lot to live up to.
Nicely dodgy result.
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Looking forward to the Scotty cardle/Sean Dodd rematch. Enjoyed the 1st so a lot to live up to.
Nicely dodgy result.
It was a close fight so i can understand 2 of the judges giving a draw but Phil Edwards 2 rds to Cardle...uuum. Still i enjoyed the fight...a third to look
forward to i suppose.
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Dodd was robbed. And a gentleman after.
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The Khan fight will be on Boxnation.
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A draw would have been a fair result.
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Very lucky decision for fielding. A bigger puncher would have taken him out, sloppy defence.
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Now that was impressive
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Great stuff whilst it lasted.
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Impressive stuff from Smith. As an aside, why has every victorious fighter been given a belt of some sort?
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Superb from Callum Smith there.
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Impressive stuff from Smith. As an aside, why has every victorious fighter been given a belt of some sort?
Because every big fight now is for a title.
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The best news of the day.
Nick Blackwell wins toughest fight yet - wakes from coma
http://www.icontact-archive.com/YWZ707yTW5xQf3BOSz7jVKDcMY2YM9Ja?w=1
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Great news.
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The hype for the fight on Saturday is well under way. Not seen anything of Martin, but can't imagine Eddie Hearn would be risking his future big pay days at the O2 by putting Joshua in with someone too dangerous.
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Given the injury wasn't as serious as first thought and the bleed was cranial is there a chance he'd look to box on?
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Been watching a big more of the build up to the fight on Saturday and just picked up a feeling of unease amongst the SKY crew. Was I right hearing that Martin is a southpaw and Joshua hasn't faced one as a pro yet. Also, picked up a feeling amongst the pundits that Joshua seems a bit too relaxed.
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Bit of a slow burner so far tonight. Thought macklin was a bit jammy to get the win earlier. Enjoyed mcdonnell, ground him down then finished him off. Welsh mayweather up next.
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Macklin was lucky as feck.
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Got a job on here, Selby
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Hunter was 5/1 before the fight.far too good not to have a nibble.
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Martin is good value at 4s.
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Martin is good value at 4s.
I've had some of that. Glorious, Bruno-like failure for joshua in my eyes.
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Martin is good value at 4s.
Yeah,took that this morning.
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Selby can't see his right coming.
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Hunter is frustratingly lazy at times. Up his work rate and he'd be clear now.
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Hunter is going to get a DQ here.
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More low blows than Golotta
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Nigel Benn's boy up next. Could be a short one.
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Impressive debut from Benn, was clearly a class above the Bulgarian but even still seeing the way he was moving and creating angles was impressive.
I agree with the comments about Hunter being lazy, I think a better attitude and he'd have won that.
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George Groves, never going to be quite good enough is he?
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George Groves, never going to be quite good enough is he?
Yep also his belt is just under his chin,never could take one to the body.
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George Groves, never going to be quite good enough is he?
Hard to tell in a fight like this, the guy is barely throwing anything and isn't moving much but Groves didn't really do anything special either. As he's shown before though, he does have some power so when he gets a clean shot through he will knock people out.
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Onto the big one then, Martin in 5 for me.
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Round 7-9 any finish @ 5/1 is a good bet.
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Martins round odds are ridiculous for a champion.
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Love the hat.
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It will take 15 minutes to empty the ring.
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Mike Costello's commentary on 5live - if only they were all as good as he
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Joshua's got him, some booming right hands there.
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Over and out.Great stuff.
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The first knockdown was a belter of a shot, right on his chin.
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Fury wouldn't stand a chance against Joshua
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That was classy from Joshua, really classy.
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Bookies were right. Martin is a bum. Didn't want to know. Fair play to AJ.
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Fury wouldn't stand a chance against Joshua
Hopefully we'll find out in 6 months.
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Impressive power.
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Fury wouldn't stand a chance against Joshua
Hopefully we'll find out in 6 months.
I hope Joshua batters the crap out of him.
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Haye up next.
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Fury will dodge Joshua for all he's worth, he knows he would get battered.
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Eddie Hearn will be an even bigger prick from now on.
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Fury will dodge Joshua for all he's worth, he knows he would get battered.
Agree - Fury is a big hard hitting lumbering oaf. But does have a boxing brain when it matters.
Joshua is a fantastic athlete who can box smart and bang hard as long as he keeps focused
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Haye up next.
At Wembley in the summer
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They won't put him in with Fury yet,it's Haye next.
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The thing with Joshua is he has very quick hands (both in action and in spotting chances) compared to most heavyweights. Given that if you let any decent heavyweight catch you on the chin you're going down having someone who picks gaps as well as him means he's always a good bet to KO someone in the first 3-4. After that it all becomes a bit more difficult to predict because it's uncharted territory but if you put an undefeated world champion on his arse twice in the 2nd round you're over the 'he's not fought anyone' hump and you have to be looked at as the real deal.
I don't want him to fight Haye, AJ gets nothing from that fight right now, Wilder, Ortiz or Fury should be the ones he's looking at. I'm ignoring Klitschko because I don't think that fight will happen because Klitschko gets nothing from it.
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I doubt fury will beat Klitschko in the rematch. its set up for Klitchsko v Joshua which is just a bit early for him. joshua could be a very good champion for a very long time. I worry about kids becoming world champions though as they rarely stay there.
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The thing with Joshua is he has very quick hands (both in action and in spotting chances) compared to most heavyweights. Given that if you let any decent heavyweight catch you on the chin you're going down having someone who picks gaps as well as him means he's always a good bet to KO someone in the first 3-4. After that it all becomes a bit more difficult to predict because it's uncharted territory but if you put an undefeated world champion on his arse twice in the 2nd round you're over the 'he's not fought anyone' hump and you have to be looked at as the real deal.
I don't want him to fight Haye, AJ gets nothing from that fight right now, Wilder, Ortiz or Fury should be the ones he's looking at. I'm ignoring Klitschko because I don't think that fight will happen because Klitschko gets nothing from it.
Ortiz is a good shout.
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The thing with Joshua is he has very quick hands (both in action and in spotting chances) compared to most heavyweights. Given that if you let any decent heavyweight catch you on the chin you're going down having someone who picks gaps as well as him means he's always a good bet to KO someone in the first 3-4. After that it all becomes a bit more difficult to predict because it's uncharted territory but if you put an undefeated world champion on his arse twice in the 2nd round you're over the 'he's not fought anyone' hump and you have to be looked at as the real deal.
I don't want him to fight Haye, AJ gets nothing from that fight right now, Wilder, Ortiz or Fury should be the ones he's looking at. I'm ignoring Klitschko because I don't think that fight will happen because Klitschko gets nothing from it.
Ortiz is a good shout.
When Mike Tyson was in his pomp 86-89 the one thing that was often overlooked was his hand speed. Yes he could poleaxe a boxer with a shot but only because many opponents couldn't see it coming.
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After a defeat I think Klitschko needs Joshua for his his so-called legacy. if he dodges Joshua it will need to be a retirement because he has very few fights left.
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After a defeat I think Klitschko needs Joshua for his his so-called legacy. if he dodges Joshua it will need to be a retirement because he has very few fights left.
I think Klitschko retires win or lose after Fury. Too many real challengers now.
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That's when ego and greed kick in. To show that the Fury defeat was a one off.
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After a defeat I think Klitschko needs Joshua for his his so-called legacy. if he dodges Joshua it will need to be a retirement because he has very few fights left.
I think Klitschko retires win or lose after Fury. Too many real challengers now.
I agree, I think he really wanted to retire after the last fight but can't just doesn't want to go having been beaten by such a poor boxer.
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After a defeat I think Klitschko needs Joshua for his his so-called legacy. if he dodges Joshua it will need to be a retirement because he has very few fights left.
I think Klitschko retires win or lose after Fury. Too many real challengers now.
I agree, I think he really wanted to retire after the last fight but can't just doesn't want to go having been beaten by such a poor boxer.
He has been stinking out the heavyweight division for years,and don't get me started on the twisted contracts he made the challengers sign.I hope Fury does him again.After that I hope anybody takes Fury out.
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But that's just it. Winning this time for Klitschko needs to be in a very quick knock out for him to be able to retire. Otherwise his reputation will go with the fury defeat. that's what he'll be remembered for in the short to mid-term. Wins this and he has little choice to agree to a bum - which makes no sense for him at this stage and will add nothing - to a third fight with Fury - which allows him to go out with a reputation restored and the defeat as just one bad night but it opens him up another defeat that will leave him looking like a poor champion in a poor era. joshua is the last thing he probably wants but may need to risk if he cares about how he will be perceived.
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After a defeat I think Klitschko needs Joshua for his his so-called legacy. if he dodges Joshua it will need to be a retirement because he has very few fights left.
I think Klitschko retires win or lose after Fury. Too many real challengers now.
I agree, I think he really wanted to retire after the last fight but can't just doesn't want to go having been beaten by such a poor boxer.
He has been stinking out the heavyweight division for years,and don't get me started on the twisted contracts he made the challengers sign.I hope Fury does him again.After that I hope anybody takes Fury out.
100% agree. Terrible for the sport.
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They won't put him in with Fury yet,it's Haye next.
Severley doubt it Haye is fighting in May and Joshua fights in July.
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They won't put him in with Fury yet,it's Haye next.
Severley doubt it Haye is fighting in May and Joshua fights in July.
In the post fight conversation, Haye said he has two fights lined up this year, one in the summer and then against Briggs in September.
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Haye is dangerous, Joshua still learning. There's no way Joshua's people will take that risk yet.
I'd have thought an easy defence in July and in the meantime wait to see what happens with Fury and Klitschko.
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I think Fury will keep away from Joshua after seeing that demolition. Probably go for Wilder if he beats Klitschko again which he may well do.The heavyweight division is in fine fettle at the moment.
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I think Fury will keep away from Joshua after seeing that demolition. Probably go for Wilder if he beats Klitschko again which he may well do.The heavyweight division is in fine fettle at the moment.
Although the quality of fighters is not the level it was during the era of Ali, Foreman etc. at least there is some genuine excitement back in the division. There are six fighters now around that top bracket who should provide massive fights should they meet.
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I'd still like to see Joshua v Joseph Parker
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I'd still like to see Joshua v Joseph Parker
That would be a really interesting fight.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Joshua against Flabby Aintgonnascore.
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Joshua will be be undisputed heavyweight champion within 12 months. Such speed and power.
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Listening to Fury speak if he's even being 50% honest about his physical condition and motivation then he's going to lose.
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Hall v Guerrero is turning into a decent fight.
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And another diabolically home town decision.
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Two good fights, but both had bewildering scorecards. Feel desperately sorry for the Mexican and Japanese fighters who both put up a brave and good account of themselves only to be humiliated by the judges. The 120 - 107 score in the Warrington fight was inexplicable.
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Anyone else bothering to watch tonight?
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Who's playing?
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Proper scrap between Conlan and Nelson
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Absolute classic so far.
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Fuck me.
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Wow!
Didn't see that coming
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Hughie Fury's bloody boring.
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I'm very curious about the Khan vs Canelo fight. Khan has been written off in places, but he's talking about the fight in the right way. If he can keep his bravery in check he can definitely win the fight.
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I'm very curious about the Khan vs Canelo fight. Khan has been written off in places, but he's talking about the fight in the right way. If he can keep his bravery in check he can definitely win the fight.
Yes i'm looking forward to this one. 05:00 start time according to BoxNation.
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It's a big ask to step up two weight divisions though.
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It is but when you think about it it is only, what, a stone? Yes it does make a difference in boxing but shouldn't in terms of being able to beat someone over the distance.
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And yet very few boxers manage it successfully.
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It'll be closer to two stone by the time the fight starts.
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Morning all.
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Whoever wins rounds 1-4 wins the fight.Khan to lose on points for me.
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After 4 rounds Khan 3 up for me.He could do this.
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Khan down and out round 6.what a punch.
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Khan was all fucked up at the end there. :o
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Shame that because he was winning the fight.
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There you go, that's the reason why it's so hard to step up weight divisions. Khan will have rarely been hit with that sort of power.
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That was some punch.
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Lee Haskins or Eurovision???
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It wasn't exactly worth turning over for.
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This is a decent fight
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If kennedy ups the work rate for the last 2 rounds he'll win this. Or, have a breather for a minute but keep the belgian working then the latter will be knackered in the last 90 seconds and ripe to be knocked out.
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And the obligatory hometown decision.
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Definitely. No way did Kennedy 'win' that. The Belgian took it too well like he supported or was aware of it. Strange.
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Anybody bothered with watching Haye tonight?
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Haye's fight should last longer than Briggs'.
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Haye's fight should last longer than Briggs'.
2mins 20secs. I wouldn't be too sure it will take Haye that long.
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This is the worst TV bill I have ever seen.
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Didn't think he would last a round but he did
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Is Haye wearing a nappy?
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And that's that!
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The opponents were awful, the production was appalling, the presentation was amateurish. "OMG. LOOOK - someone famous at ringside!!!"
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The opponents were awful, the production was appalling, the presentation was amateurish. "OMG. LOOOK - someone famous at ringside!!!"
The word Naff sums up how awful the whole thing was.
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That was awful. Time for Haye to fight a boxer now.
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Jesus that was awful, at least we didn't have to pay to watch it
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Another win for Joseph Parker last night and another step upwards. Not so sure he is ready for a title fight yet at only 24 years old, but would still like to see him and Joshua.
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Another win for Joseph Parker last night and another step upwards. Not so sure he is ready for a title fight yet at only 24 years old, but would still like to see him and Joshua.
It was the first time I've seen Parker, and he wasn't particularly impressive.
Was it an off night for him JD?
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Another win for Joseph Parker last night and another step upwards. Not so sure he is ready for a title fight yet at only 24 years old, but would still like to see him and Joshua.
It was the first time I've seen Parker, and he wasn't particularly impressive.
Was it an off night for him JD?
It was a bit of a step up for Parker fighting Takam. I don't think he had an off night he just fought a better opponent than previously. That's why i don't think he is quite ready yet for a title fight, I think he needs a couple more fights against top 6 or so ranked opponents first.
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Was it me but I didn't think David Haye looked at all in the peak of condition last night. Enough to beat a nobody like that but against Joshua or Fury or Klitsckho he might have problems. Haye always has that smug look on his face which is deeply irritating but he needs to face a much better standard of opponent than a washed up 44 year old Shannon Briggs if he is to get back to the top tier of that division.
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Haye's opponent didn't seem that bothered to me. Went down quicker than Ashley Young. I honestly think I'd have stood up to that left arm prod that floored him.
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Haye's opponent didn't seem that bothered to me. Went down quicker than Ashley Young. I honestly think I'd have stood up to that left arm prod that floored him.
and a prod is a very good way of describing it. You wouldn't call it a straight jab
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More than a little disappointing to see Blackwell calling Eubank inhuman for holding a press conference when he did after their fight . There appeared to be nothing but sincerity in either Jnr or Snr's actions or concerns for Blackwell. Not sure why he had to come and out and say anything at all.
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More than a little disappointing to see Blackwell calling Eubank inhuman for holding a press conference when he did after their fight . There appeared to be nothing but sincerity in either Jnr or Snr's actions or concerns for Blackwell. Not sure why he had to come and out and say anything at all.
They were in a tricky situation really. If they had said nothing then they would have been criticised as well.
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Exactly - and given what happened with Eubank - Watson the press would have made a meal of it had they said nothing.
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Cut him some slack, Blackwell probably isn't in a very good place after being beaten into a coma.
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No, he probably isn't. But it doesn't mean that he shouldn't just think before he releases something to the press.
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Ricky Burns has started off well.
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Finished well also....good performance and history made fair play to him.
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Anyone watching tonight's?
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I will be when the main event starts
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Big Duncan ferguson in the crowd. Should have fought David Price earlier.
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A good night for the smith bros. Excellent body work.
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There's not as many two round blow aways as I'd feared.
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Just switched it on. Don't know much about it though, is Bellew expected to win easily or is the other bloke highly-rated?
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Just switched it on. Don't know much about it though, is Bellew expected to win easily or is the other bloke highly-rated?
Having seen the build up I kinda want the other guy to win now, when you get people singing football chants at the boxing something has gone very wrong.
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Singing football chants through the national anthem too. Seems a bit wankerish.
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A few boos for GSTQ too to even things out!
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Just switched it on. Don't know much about it though, is Bellew expected to win easily or is the other bloke highly-rated?
Having seen the build up I kinda want the other guy to win now, when you get people singing football chants at the boxing something has gone very wrong.
With the bookies Bellew is the outsider, not sure of the actual odds.
I think at a football ground you're gonna get football chants....having said that though David Price was refused the chance to walk into to YNWA...i was happy about that.
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Just switched it on. Don't know much about it though, is Bellew expected to win easily or is the other bloke highly-rated?
I think the other guy is slight favourite
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Bellew is around 11/10, which is good considering the likelihood of a British fighter losing on points in his own back yard.
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fucking hell that was a big left hand, this guy has got some power.
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Wish I'd read Dave's 11/10 post a few moments earlier.
Hope the other guy is OK.
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Wow. What a finish
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I really dislike Bellew.
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Pro boxers allowed at Rio Olympics, I think it's a stupid decision.
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Pro boxers allowed at Rio Olympics, I think it's a stupid decision.
Depends how much difference it's going to make really, I'm not sure anyone meaningful will go for it given the qualifying event they'd need to enter to get to the olympics is in about 4-5 weeks. If any of them have a pro fight scheduled in the next 3-4 months you can write them off as well. I think you'll find it's the prizefighter type boxers who will show an interest rather than the top end and I'm not sure how much difference in quality there will between them and the top amateurs in this format.
it's 2020 I'd be worried for where I suspect you'd be looking at mostly young pro's if this isn't reversed which would largely see the end of amateur boxing as anything other than a step into the pro circuit.
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Pro boxers allowed at Rio Olympics, I think it's a stupid decision.
The majority of 'pro sports' in general really. If the Olympic gold isn't the biggest achievement in the particular format of the sport, then it shouldn't be in it.
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Very sad to read that Muhammad Ali is apparently close to death. I knew he was ill, but seems his condition has worsened.
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Spent an evening chatting to John Conteh's son. Very entertaining.
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Thomas Stalker's in a right battle now.
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Thomas Stalker's in a right battle now.
He won comfortably though didn't he. Unlike Farrag stopped in 3rd, i believed the hype pre fight during the week and thought he would win at
a canter.....how wrong of me.
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How the fuck can you get up right after the ten count in a world title fight? It happens all the time with journeymen but a world title?
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We may as well sttart tonight's fun right here.
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Eubank v Doran was a poor match up.
Hopefully he will give up British title and move on. Be nice to see him get GGG but may be a step to far.
Murray and Groves could & should be a good one.
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That was a fine performance from Groves.
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I thought Groves did ok but the commentary here is overselling it a fair bit given that Murray looked like he was fighting in the wrong weight and didn't have the power to hurt Groves.
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This isn't going to last a round is it?
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This is actually turning out to be a really good fight for Joshua because this guy can take a hit. Joshua is boxing really well to just stick to his plan and trust that it will happen.
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All credit to Brezeale, he is absorbing some big punches but is still in there.
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I'll happily admit that I'm a bit of a fair weather boxing fan, I just can't get interested in the lower level stuff, much like non-league football holds no real attraction for me.
That said, Joshua really does look the real deal every time I've seen him, his hand speed and accuracy would be good 2-3 weight division down, in the heavyweights he just looks like he's toying with people. The guy today (who had one hell of a chin to be fair) looked like he was in slo-mo the difference was that stark. To that end I reckon a focused Joshua who is kept working hard and fighting to his plans will comfortably unify the division and go down as a genuine great of this era, he's got absolutely everything to be as good as he wants to be.
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Brook to fight GGG!
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Brook to fight GGG!
Just saw that in SSN. I was hoping it would be Eubank JR .
Gennady Golovkin is quite something and a brave effort by Brook but suspect he'll be well beaten
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Brook to fight GGG!
Just saw it as well. Fuck me sideways, that's a huge risk for Brook, 2 weight jump vs GGG. I like Brook a lot, but as Khan found out the good big man almost always beats the good snall man.
Imagine if Brook won, Khan won't be able to dodge him any more.
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Boxnation showing a bill from India now.
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Boxnation showing a bill from India now.
It's Vijender Singh homecoming isn't it....Did you watch Bradley Skeete earlier....how did he get on??
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Boxnation showing a bill from India now.
It's Vijender Singh homecoming isn't it....Did you watch Bradley Skeete earlier....how did he get on??
Didn't see it but he won in seven.
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Gavin fighting on a Josh Warrington bill. That could be fun.
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Good start for Coyle in the opening two rounds. I think Nurse is just trying to let him punch out though. he looks as if he's waiting to unleash.
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Stand up if you hate Man U? Leeds twats.
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nurse on points. Fully deserved.
Campbell now fighting. How old is he? 12?
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Luke Campbell is never world class.
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Gavin fighting on a Josh Warrington bill. That could be fun.
He won by TKO
I agree about Luke Campbell...won this though
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Gamal Yafai won again as well.
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Gamal Yafai won again as well.
Good...didn't know that.
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This is heavyweight? fatweight more like. Both a pair of plodders.
As for Campbell agree with what's been said. i thought Alvarez (?) could have stopped up in rounds 3 and 4 and would have stopped it but he did nothing. felt like he was boxing to the plan given to him by the promoter.
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Before the fight i thought Hyland might seal this fight with a kiss. After that first i certainly have my doubts.
No head movement.
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nurse on points. Fully deserved.
Campbell now fighting. How old is he? 12?
You must know some weirdly old looking 12 year olds! ;)
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Connor Benn stops Joe Ducker at start of 2nd
Paul Smith on now in 6 rounder against Regi from i think they said Bulgaria
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Connor Benn stops Joe Ducker at start of 2nd
Paul Smith on now in 6 rounder against Regi from i think they said Bulgaria
Budapest
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I'll never understand the point of these five hour bills.
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Any idea what time the Brook fight is due to start?
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Any idea what time the Brook fight is due to start?
Ringwalk at 22:30 they reckon.
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Any idea what time the Brook fight is due to start?
10-ish I believe.
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Thanks
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This one's coming along nicely. Hall's getting back into it.
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I think it's safe to say this one won't go the distance.
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Golovkin hits so bloody hard.
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As he tires Brook could take some big hits
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Brook has got to stop Golovkin walking him down somehow.
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He can't keep moving out the way. The first minute of the round he needs to get out the way.
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It might not go more than another two rounds but total respect for the way Brook is fighting.
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Oh completely. He's been brilliant.
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He's doing well, but I'm not sure how he can win at the moment.
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What the absolute fuck???????
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That was a bit weird.
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I don't get it, Kell didn't look in too much trouble ...
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Bit weird that, but Brook doesn't look too upset I think he was done.
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I didn't even notice the towel!
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Listening on the radio that sounded early.
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Can only think that eye is more hurt than we know.
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Very good performance from Brook that all things considered.
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I don't know I thought Brook looked ok that it was stopped.
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Though Bunce and David Haye think it's right.
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They think it was right on TV too. Think they think he was going to get hurt but he looked like he was rolling them quite well.
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I thought he was getting hit a lot. GGG has it right, Brook is an excellent fighter but he's not a middleweight. Or at least not a middleweight in GGG's class.
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Sounds like his eye socket was broken.
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I thought he was getting hit a lot. GGG has it right, Brook is an excellent fighter but he's not a middleweight. Or at least not a middleweight in GGG's class.
Thought GGG looked quite ordinary at times tonight and I would think there are a few out there who would fancy a fight against him after seeing how many times Brook caught him.
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Oh I don't know. Brook's a quality world champ and GGG looked a step above.
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Looking at it rationally it was like how we invariably used to play against Manchester United back in the days when we were top six and they were top two. We'd come out swinging, they contained us, then stepped up a gear.
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He looks a bit of a machine doesn't he Golovkin. Scary bloke.
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Oh I don't know. Brook's a quality world champ and GGG looked a step above.
He did, but I think the weight difference played a big part in that as GGG was able to manhandle him at times. GGG's awesome power was evident throughout, but Brook did land quite a lot and if you factor in the extra power a natural middleweight would have, I think there are a few who might see a chance. As it was said in commentary, the only real chink in GGG's armour is that he does not move his head at all.
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I'd say if the fight might have gone differently if Brook had done 2-3 warm up fights at that weight first. I think he needed to get used to the extra power in a competitive environment and work on his own power. He landed more than enough clean shots to put golovkin down but there just wasn't the power behind them. I suspect Brook will step down one from here and I think he'll do very well.
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The best in the world at that weight don't want to fight GGG. Brook had no chance.
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Nice article about Randolph Turpin.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2016/sep/12/randolph-turpin-memories-gennady-golovkin-kell-brook
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I see Fury has called off the Klitschko fight again. Not passing any judgement, but how long before he's stripped of his titles?
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I see Fury has called off the Klitschko fight again. Not passing any judgement, but how long before he's stripped of his titles?
From what I'm reading im gathering its a mental issue rather than physical. He doesn't deem the most stable of blokes and I'd worry about where he would go from here.
I thoroughly dislike the bloke but I hope he gets the treatment he needs and can come back from it.
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What is it with boxing and Sweet Bloody Caroline?
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Right decision reached though there was quite a disparity on the cards. Crolla did seem to be getting some momentum, but that was all taken away when he got caught in the sixth. He just didn't seem to have much in the tank after that.
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The world heavyweight champion Tyson Fury, who last week pulled out of his proposed rematch with Wladimir Klitschko citing mental health issues, has reportedly tested positive for cocaine.
Fury, who holds the WBA and WBO world titles, was said to have been informed on Thursday night that his A sample from a random urine test on 22 September had tested positive for the substance benzoylecgonine, the central compound found in cocaine. Fury pulled out of the rematch a day after the test.
The news was broken by ESPN, which quoted a letter from the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (Vada) president, Dr Margaret Goodman, to representatives for Fury, Klitschko, the British Boxing Board of Control and the United States’ Association of Boxing Commissions. In it Goodman wrote: “This letter is to advise you that the ‘A’ sample urine specimen number 4006253 collected from Tyson Fury on September 22, 2016 in Lancaster, England through his participation in the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association program has been analysed for anabolic agents, diuretics, beta-2 agonists, stimulants and drugs of abuse. The results of the analysis are as follows: Adverse. Urine specimen contains benzoylecgonine.”
However in an email to the Guardian, Goodman said that Vada would not be commenting on story and that they “do not release results publicly unless requested by the athlete”. Even if the positive test is confirmed Fury is unlikely to face a ban from competing as cocaine is not prohibited when it is taken out of competition under World Anti-Doping Agency rules. However with the WBO having requested he provide evidence that he was “mentally unfit” to fight against Klitschko by Wednesday, and the IBO having also asked him for a medical report, the 28-year-old from Morecambe still faces the prospect of losing one or more of his world title belts before he next steps in the ring. Separately Fury also has a UK Anti-Doping investigation hanging over him after a sample tested positive for the anabolic steroid nandrolone last year. However he denies any wrongdoing and is contesting those charges.
Fury won the world title with a convincing points victory over Klitschko last November but since then he has made headlines for what he has done outside the ring. His rematch against Klitschko was originally due to take place in Manchester during the summer but Fury pulled out citing an ankle injury. Earlier he had admitted he was five stone over his fighting weight having eaten and drunk to excess.
The fight was then rescheduled for 29 October but doubts were raised about it going ahead when Fury didn’t show up for the press conference in London on 10 September, claiming that his car had broken down on the motorway and his phone battery had also died. Those fears were realised less than a fortnight later when Fury was declared medically unfit to fight.
Bernd Bönte, Klitschko’s manager, responded to the cocaine claim by telling ESPN: “I think Fury is probably the most unworthy heavyweight champion in history, not only because of this situation but because of the whole package of his sexist comments, his antisemitic comments and his homophobic comments that have been [well documented].”
It was widely reported that Fury had severe depression, with a statement from Hennessy Sports saying he was “devastated” when the rematch was called off. A statement released last week added: “Medical specialists have advised that the condition is too severe to allow him to participate in the rematch and that he will require treatment before going back into the ring. Tyson will now immediately undergo the treatment he needs to make a full recovery.”
Neither Fury’s representatives nor the BBBC were available for comment when contacted by the Guardian. A Ukad spokesperson said: “UK Anti-Doping will not discuss or disclose information relating to cases, until due legal process has been completed.”
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That's a good, if strange, win for Nathan Cleverley.
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That's a good, if strange, win for Nathan Cleverley.
Very strange because Braehmer didn't seem to be in any real discomfort and I thought he was up by a couple of rounds at least. Had an ice pack on his elbow after the fight so can only think it had something to do with that.
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Tyson Fury has now announced (on twitter) that he's retired.
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And then announced he's not.
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which announcement came whilst he was off his tits on drugs do we think?
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Great performance by Liam Walsh.
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Last nights 'performance' by Bellew is the perfect ammo for the anti boxing lobby - he was completely unhinged in the way he fought with basically no defence and his behaviour after was that of a man off his head.
Would go as far to say he gives Fury a rival as the biggest moron in boxing, not a fan of the way Haye sells his fights but sincerely hope deals with Bellew if the Angry Lego Man gets his wish for the fight to happen.
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Bellew is a horrible twat, seems constantly angry and cocky. I don't think I can remember a single weigh in involving him where he hasn't tried to start on the other boxer physically. Has he actually beaten anyone with a pedigree?
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Looks like Frankie Gavin has failed to make weight for tomorrow.
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Looks like Frankie Gavin has failed to make weight for tomorrow.
He really doesn't give a toss does he....British & Commonwealth titles at stake...take his purse off him. He really doesn't
want to fight Eggington does he??
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Wipe that blood of the end of your nose.
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To be fair it was an excellent fight, does Eggington support the sty as well given that there was a lot of Blue in his corner?
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He's from Smethwick so I'd guess he's Albion but have never heard him say one way or another.
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Was a great fight anyway
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And another absolute travesty on a Sky card.
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Anyone else watching this?
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Another Matchroom fix, had Solis up 2/3 rounds. One judge gave it McDonnell by 6 rounds..... it's nothing other than bent, home town robbery.
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It's looking harder for George Groves than he might have thought.
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Neither really do the sport of boxing proud, but I imagine there will be a lot of attention around Bellew v Haye now it has been announced. I think David Haye would have been World Champion for many years had he stayed at Cruiserweight and although the fight is at heavyweight, they are both around that size and if Haye has got anything left in the tank I think he will stop Bellew.
The build up to the fight is going to be pretty classless I would imagine.
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I think Haye has lost all of his credibility now and he's starting to come across more of an Audley Harrison than the exciting fresh face that he was before the Klitschko fight.
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There's a half-decent card on Boxnation now.
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And another clash tonight.
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Not sure if it is live but just watched a fight for a british title between someone called Sheedy and an English bloke from Bideford but 'by way of Birmingham' - commentary is in turkish so I'm lost. Anyway it was a split decision to the 'Brummie' but I'm not sure how Sheedy got that close. All slaps and chops onto the head. awful fighter.
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Not sure if it is live but just watched a fight for a british title between someone called Sheedy and an English bloke from Bideford but 'by way of Birmingham' - commentary is in turkish so I'm lost. Anyway it was a split decision to the 'Brummie' but I'm not sure how Sheedy got that close. All slaps and chops onto the head. awful fighter.
Tommy Langford. Stripey.
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A Welsh(and something like Puerto Rican) kid against Flanagan?
EDIT - Orlando Cruz from Puerto Rico - confused me by coming in with a Welsh flag.
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As in is this a repeat or live?
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As in is this a repeat or live?
It's live.
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Cruz moves around more like a kickboxer.
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Over to Sky for Martin Gethin's last fight.
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And my encyclopaedic boxing knowledge makes for yet another incredibly accurate prediction.
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Any of you boxing aficionados remember this?
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I'm no fan of Haye but Bellew does my f**king head in.
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I'm no fan of Haye but Bellew does my f**king head in.
Did you see the press conference earlier today?
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I don't know why Haye seems to have started wearing nappies when he has a fight. Hope he wins though.
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Hope Bellew get's knocked out. A clean, straight, no arguements, KO.
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Hope Bellew get's knocked out. A clean, straight, no arguements, KO.
I used to quite like Haye but he has turned into a colossal chump.
I hope Bellew gives him a shoeing.
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Hope Bellew get's knocked out. A clean, straight, no arguements, KO.
I used to quite like Haye but he has turned into a colossal chump.
I hope Bellew gives him a shoeing.
I'm hoping there's some way that they can both knock each other out. Hate the pair of them.
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Haye has always been a tool, from the no publicity is bad publicity school of marketing his fights, however has always been a talented fighter albeit not big enough to dominate heavyweight.
Bellew on the other hand is an unhinged journeyman whose behaviour after his last fight should have asked questions about his fitness between the ears to fight.
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Hope Bellew get's knocked out. A clean, straight, no arguements, KO.
I used to quite like Haye but he has turned into a colossal chump.
I hope Bellew gives him a shoeing.
I'm hoping there's some way that they can both knock each other out. Hate the pair of them.
Totally agree Chico, they are both very unlikeable.
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Billy Joe Saunders has a fight on his hands here.
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Is he a boxer or a C&W star?
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Concepcion comes in overweight, Kal can become a world champion tonight.
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Anyone got a non-virus ridden stream?
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Never mind, got one.
http://vipbox.so/boxing/watch-25ae25-anthony-joshua-vs-eric-molina?l=1523407979
(if I'm not supposed to post that, please delete)
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That was a sickening knock out. The fight should have been over way before that though.
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G'wan Kal.
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Nice to have a Brummie to support
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I think he's Small Heath, but he doesn't seem to be a twat about it like Gavin, so hope he wins.
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He's certainly looking like he will.
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the few rounds I saw Kal looked a really good boxer.
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Alejandro González, the fighter who knocked down Carl Frampton twice in the first round of their fight last year, was murdered in Mexico yesterday.
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Anyone fancy being disparaging about womens' sports?
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I never get why people go there on holiday given the amount of violence seemingly surrounding the place.
Just watched about of Parker v Ruiz Jnr. Just 2 fat blokes fighting each other.
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Don't particularly like either of them or think they're great fighters but whyte/chisora has been a great fight because they're going after each other.
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I've been pretty underwhelmed by Whyte.
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This has been hugely enjoyable. A breath of fresh air compared to some of the tentative heavyweight fights I've seen in the last few years.
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I've been pretty underwhelmed by Whyte.
Good chin to be fair, he's taken some hammer blows and stayed up. It's hard not to admire the fortitude of both of them, this is a rare fight in this division.
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That was superb, hopefully it'll be a draw.
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yep, a draw is the fair result there, what a superb fight.
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I had it 114-114 but you can't argue with any of the judges. It was a great fight.
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Molina was massively outclassed.
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These fights are a waste of time for AJ, he's a class above most of this division, he's barely broken sweat there.
lets see if Wilder, Ortiz or Parker has the guts to face him then we'll see just how good he is.
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He's fighting Klitschko in April.
That'll be a test!
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He's fighting Klitschko in April.
That'll be a test!
Different type of fight but klitschko is getting a bit old now, I suspect AJ will be too quick for him, that's why I think one of the younger guys will be a better fight. That said if that one goes ahead and he wins it'll put that question to bed.
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He's fighting Klitschko in April.
That'll be a test!
Klitschko will be 41 in March....he'll get hammered by Joshua.
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He's fighting Klitschko in April.
That'll be a test!
Klitschko will be 41 in March....he'll get hammered by Joshua.
41 and not been in the ring for 18months.
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And easily beaten by Tyson Fury. Klitschko's just out for one final payday.
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Maybe, but I think he's motivated to win. I don't think it's an easy fight for Joshua at all, a good one, but not easy.
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Did anyone else notice Memphis Depay wearing a bull-fighters outfit and a boater hat?
Money does not equal taste evidently.