New chairman and Lerner ramblings

[PaulWinch again]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-aston-villa-chairman-steve-10761761

I like what he says in that interview, it seems quite upfront and honest to me. He's admitted the club has made mistakes and that they're hoping to avoid relegation, but planning in the event that we don't.

[saunders_heroes]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-aston-villa-chairman-steve-10761761

I like what he says in that interview, it seems quite upfront and honest to me. He's admitted the club has made mistakes and that they're hoping to avoid relegation, but planning in the event that we don't.

One thing he isn't in charge though is the transfer and wage budget which will be sadly still dictated by Lerner.

[ChicagoLion]

Can't link right now but Hollis says Lerner won't be selling Villa until he's sorted us out and is ''pretty passionate'' about us. Yeah Ok, he doesn't understand the meaning of the word passion then, anyway as we suspected Lerner is currently not a motivated seller at all because he knows he wouldn't be offered anything like the price he wants for us.

In other words he can't find a buyer for his inflated price.

At £150 million, I think we're cheap.

So something he paid 66million for 6 years ago which was pre-city and pre fair play, that has been run into the ground, about to get relegated with a squad full of misfits and under achievers is now cheap at 150million. I would like to sell at your prices and buy at mine.

The revenue streams have massively increased in the meantime.

In the PL.

He has tried to sell it whilst we've been a premiership club.

Exactly and why it is worth so much less now.

[Dave]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-aston-villa-chairman-steve-10761761

I like what he says in that interview, it seems quite upfront and honest to me. He's admitted the club has made mistakes and that they're hoping to avoid relegation, but planning in the event that we don't.

One thing he isn't in charge though is the transfer and wage budget which will be sadly still dictated by Lerner.

Will it? If the plan is to run the club on self-sufficient basis, spending the money that it makes, why wouldn't Lerner leave that in the hands of the person he has left in charge?

[dave.woodhall]

So you say. Not one credible name really has ever been put forward though, has it?

I can think of plenty.

Such as?

Graham Taylor, Brian Little, Steve Stride, Des Bremner for a start.

[Villa in Denmark]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-aston-villa-chairman-steve-10761761

I like what he says in that interview, it seems quite upfront and honest to me. He's admitted the club has made mistakes and that they're hoping to avoid relegation, but planning in the event that we don't.

One thing he isn't in charge though is the transfer and wage budget which will be sadly still dictated by Lerner.

Will it? If the plan is to run the club on self-sufficient basis, spending the money that it makes, why wouldn't Lerner leave that in the hands of the person he has left in charge?

The whole point of appointing a chairman is to remove him (Lerner) from anything to do with the club.

If an opportunity presents itself that can't be financed by our own earnings, Hollis can ask him for funds as lender of first resort or fresh injection of shareholder capital, if he deems it the right thing for the club.

If Lerner declines, Hollis should be empowered to raise finance as he sees fit if it's in the best interests of the club.

The thing is it won't be based on Lerner's decision making abilities, he'll be advised as to what the best course of action is.

[ChicagoLion]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-aston-villa-chairman-steve-10761761

I like what he says in that interview, it seems quite upfront and honest to me. He's admitted the club has made mistakes and that they're hoping to avoid relegation, but planning in the event that we don't.

One thing he isn't in charge though is the transfer and wage budget which will be sadly still dictated by Lerner.

Will it? If the plan is to run the club on self-sufficient basis, spending the money that it makes, why wouldn't Lerner leave that in the hands of the person he has left in charge?

The whole point of appointing a chairman is to remove him (Lerner) from anything to do with the club.

If an opportunity presents itself that can't be financed by our own earnings, Hollis can ask him for funds as lender of first resort or fresh injection of shareholder capital, if he deems it the right thing for the club.

If Lerner declines, Hollis should be empowered to raise finance as he sees fit if it's in the best interests of the club.

Unlikely he would have this much authority.

[Toronto Villa]

Even though he has suggested that's how the structure will be at the club. That as Chairman he will have full decision making authority.

[ChicagoLion]

Even though he has suggested that's how the structure will be at the club. That as Chairman he will have full decision making authority.

Full decision making authority over running the club and as Chairman but raising money, granting security, selling the ground, agreeing naming rights, changing the name of the club, selling the club. I don't think so.

[Clampy]

Can't link right now but Hollis says Lerner won't be selling Villa until he's sorted us out and is ''pretty passionate'' about us. Yeah Ok, he doesn't understand the meaning of the word passion then, anyway as we suspected Lerner is currently not a motivated seller at all because he knows he wouldn't be offered anything like the price he wants for us.

In other words he can't find a buyer for his inflated price.

At £150 million, I think we're cheap.

So something he paid 66million for 6 years ago which was pre-city and pre fair play, that has been run into the ground, about to get relegated with a squad full of misfits and under achievers is now cheap at 150million. I would like to sell at your prices and buy at mine.

The revenue streams have massively increased in the meantime.

In the PL.

He has tried to sell it whilst we've been a premiership club.

Exactly and why it is worth so much less now.

What is it worth now? Any idea?

[LeeB]

I remember Eric Woodward. A devout Christian. Went on holiday to a remote Scottish island and was never heard of again.

Flaming hell!

Went on a scouting mission for a promising but wayward youngster called Morrison. Think they ended up at Lazio.

We were looking to bid for the actual wicker man, to compete with Gestede, but that deal looks like it's gone up in smoke.

[Toronto Villa]

Even though he has suggested that's how the structure will be at the club. That as Chairman he will have full decision making authority.

Full decision making authority over running the club and as Chairman but raising money, granting security, selling the ground, agreeing naming rights, changing the name of the club, selling the club. I don't think so.

Where did selling the ground, naming rights, changing the name of the club come from? Has that been suggested by anyone as part of what Hollis is able to do? What's being suggested is that within his parameters as Chairman there's things he can engage to run the club profitably and efficiently as a business. I'm quite sure if a bid came in for the club, he'd know about it, but it's Randy's decision to make. I'm not sure how you made the leap between what is reasonably the Chairman's scope of responsibility to what would obviously involve the owner.

[ciggiesnbeer]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-aston-villa-chairman-steve-10761761

Thats nice and everything Steve. But where are the new signings? Thats the only thing that matters right now. We can talk about philosophy and structure whenever but right now we have a crisis that we need to try and solve.

[Dave]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-aston-villa-chairman-steve-10761761

Thats nice and everything Steve. But where are the new signings? Thats the only thing that matters right now.

Probably still biding their time to see if they have any offers more attractive than joining the side at the bottom of the league.

[ciggiesnbeer]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-aston-villa-chairman-steve-10761761

Thats nice and everything Steve. But where are the new signings? Thats the only thing that matters right now.

Probably still biding their time to see if they have any offers more attractive than joining the side at the bottom of the league.

Possibly, but other clubs who were bottom have made signings early in the window in the past. Also the signings should have been all ready to join first week in January. It is now the 21st without a sniff. To me it smacks off surrender. Which upsets me when our players do it on the pitch and upsets me when our board does it off the pitch.