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Online paul_e

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #285 on: January 15, 2016, 07:05:59 PM »
That statement reads.

Work hard, work harder and there's no cash. Classic venture capitalist stuff, make us lean and mean and sell us on. This guy will have zero impact on the playing side other than to be in charge of the purse strings.

Move on, nothing to see here.

It reads that way if that exactly what you expect to read.  Otherwise, as most others have read, it says that he knows it's a tough job but he wants to help build a winning culture, which is exactly what you'd expect from him at this point.  It's also pretty normal to see comments like this about funding, it does the club no good if everyone thinks we're planning to spend huge sums, regardless of whether we are or not.  The only time you ever hear a chairman/ceo/owner talk about all the money they're going to spend it's said by a complete bellend who's in the game purely to feed their own ego, such as the bunch at West Ham.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #286 on: January 15, 2016, 07:30:17 PM »
That statement reads.

Work hard, work harder and there's no cash. Classic venture capitalist stuff, make us lean and mean and sell us on. This guy will have zero impact on the playing side other than to be in charge of the purse strings.

Move on, nothing to see here.

im a bit like that, a bit meh

sounds good, talk is cheap, lets see what he delivers

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #287 on: January 15, 2016, 08:11:49 PM »
We'll only see him make a difference in his hirings and firings. Our whole set up is a pile of dung. Fox is shit. The transfer committee is made up of people who have been vastly promoted from the jobs they previously had. We lack football knowledge at the club. Now I don't buy into the notion a chairman should be a football man. That is a rarity these days and frankly this is a business first and foremost and you need someone with a business brain running the club. But we do need to appoint a couple of people with a vast understanding of the game on our board who will have a bit more nous about the game itself and where we could improve the set up of the club, from growing our own talent to player recruitment.

So in the next year I'd like to see a shake up at board room level. I'd also like to see us make more movement in acquiring the staff that Remi wants in his backroom and coaching team. We're understaffed right now. We left Lambert struggling for too long without a suitable team. Sherwood came in and had a skeleton crew (and both he and Lambert had to make do with bizarre temp jobs like Keane and Wilkins, both of whom were always destined to fuck off within months) and Remi is now running on that too.


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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #288 on: January 15, 2016, 08:37:32 PM »
That statement reads.

Work hard, work harder and there's no cash. Classic venture capitalist stuff, make us lean and mean and sell us on. This guy will have zero impact on the playing side other than to be in charge of the purse strings.

Move on, nothing to see here.

It reads that way if that exactly what you expect to read.  Otherwise, as most others have read, it says that he knows it's a tough job but he wants to help build a winning culture, which is exactly what you'd expect from him at this point.  It's also pretty normal to see comments like this about funding, it does the club no good if everyone thinks we're planning to spend huge sums, regardless of whether we are or not.  The only time you ever hear a chairman/ceo/owner talk about all the money they're going to spend it's said by a complete bellend who's in the game purely to feed their own ego, such as the bunch at West Ham.

I wasn't expecting anything, I'm just going on my experience of deciphering corporate waffle.

Offline CT Villan

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #289 on: January 15, 2016, 08:43:12 PM »
So when Randy first approached me to see if I would be interested in Chairing the Club my initial reaction was that whilst this is very flattering to be considered for this role I am not a football man and I must politely decline. However, Randy was very clear the Club does not need a football man as its Chairman, it needs someone who is proven at driving change in large complex organisations. The rest is history.
Steve Hollis
Chairman

So all of you who were calling for a Chairman with football knowledge (me included) were wrong, Randy says otherwise  ::)

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #290 on: January 15, 2016, 08:57:30 PM »
That statement reads.

Work hard, work harder and there's no cash. Classic venture capitalist stuff, make us lean and mean and sell us on. This guy will have zero impact on the playing side other than to be in charge of the purse strings.

Move on, nothing to see here.

It reads that way if that exactly what you expect to read.  Otherwise, as most others have read, it says that he knows it's a tough job but he wants to help build a winning culture, which is exactly what you'd expect from him at this point.  It's also pretty normal to see comments like this about funding, it does the club no good if everyone thinks we're planning to spend huge sums, regardless of whether we are or not.  The only time you ever hear a chairman/ceo/owner talk about all the money they're going to spend it's said by a complete bellend who's in the game purely to feed their own ego, such as the bunch at West Ham.

I wasn't expecting anything, I'm just going on my experience of deciphering corporate waffle.

Does it pay well?

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #291 on: January 15, 2016, 09:02:08 PM »
That statement reads.

Work hard, work harder and there's no cash. Classic venture capitalist stuff, make us lean and mean and sell us on. This guy will have zero impact on the playing side other than to be in charge of the purse strings.

Move on, nothing to see here.

It reads that way if that exactly what you expect to read.  Otherwise, as most others have read, it says that he knows it's a tough job but he wants to help build a winning culture, which is exactly what you'd expect from him at this point.  It's also pretty normal to see comments like this about funding, it does the club no good if everyone thinks we're planning to spend huge sums, regardless of whether we are or not.  The only time you ever hear a chairman/ceo/owner talk about all the money they're going to spend it's said by a complete bellend who's in the game purely to feed their own ego, such as the bunch at West Ham.

I wasn't expecting anything, I'm just going on my experience of deciphering corporate waffle.

Does it pay well?

Alas being cynical pays very little.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #292 on: January 15, 2016, 09:06:57 PM »
Cynicism. The devils way of keeping Brunmies down.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #293 on: January 15, 2016, 09:08:48 PM »
Cynicism. The devils way of keeping Brunmies down.

Brummies are genetically cynical.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #294 on: January 15, 2016, 09:54:28 PM »
I'm struggling to get my head round the notion of an owner, chairman and chief executive.

Surely Lerner will still have to sanction any decisions made, and Hollis is an employee of Lerner, so has to be in agreement with him anyway.  Presume he's now the front man as opposed to Fox?  Will Fox now be more on the commercial side if they do bring in a football man as a director?

Too many cooks?

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #295 on: January 15, 2016, 09:56:35 PM »
Couple of things.

1. There's been more uttered in public by the clubs custodians in the last 36 hours than in the last five years put together which is a good thing.

2. It's a bit rich of Lerner to talk about failure in the last five years when watching it happen and leaving it the point of absolutely no return and fans getting into public confrontations with players before doing anything about it.

I really hope this guy succeeds but there is a lot of corporate speak about 'phases, shake ups, troubled organisations etc and precious little about how we are actually going to improve our lot on the pitch and given Randys appalling record regarding appointments I'm still nervous about what will happen next.

The fact that Lerner is stepping back further (is this possible) is a good thing but it can only happen if the club only spends what it earns so there's likely to be some pretty tough times ahead - probably part of the reason we are hearing stories such as Gabby being touted around on a free.  At least it looks like the time when players come here for a holiday and one last pay cheque are coming to an end.

As Jack Karnehm once said 'ah good luck mate.'
« Last Edit: January 15, 2016, 10:00:08 PM by kippaxvilla2 »

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #296 on: January 15, 2016, 09:59:25 PM »
I'm struggling to get my head round the notion of an owner, chairman and chief executive.

Surely Lerner will still have to sanction any decisions made, and Hollis is an employee of Lerner, so has to be in agreement with him anyway.  Presume he's now the front man as opposed to Fox?  Will Fox now be more on the commercial side if they do bring in a football man as a director?

Too many cooks?

Considering the current cooks spend all day having a fag out the back watching the clouds go by while the customers are inside complaining constantly to the waiter then an extra one or two isn't going to hurt. Who knows they might actually know how to cook or even actually start cooking.


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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #297 on: January 15, 2016, 10:08:13 PM »
I'm struggling to get my head round the notion of an owner, chairman and chief executive.

Surely Lerner will still have to sanction any decisions made, and Hollis is an employee of Lerner, so has to be in agreement with him anyway.  Presume he's now the front man as opposed to Fox?  Will Fox now be more on the commercial side if they do bring in a football man as a director?

Too many cooks?

There's a typo in the last word of your post

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #298 on: January 15, 2016, 10:11:49 PM »
I'm struggling to get my head round the notion of an owner, chairman and chief executive.

Surely Lerner will still have to sanction any decisions made, and Hollis is an employee of Lerner, so has to be in agreement with him anyway.  Presume he's now the front man as opposed to Fox?  Will Fox now be more on the commercial side if they do bring in a football man as a director?

Too many cooks?

Ownership and control of a company are two different things. Lerner is no longer on the board and has no involvement in he running of he club.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #299 on: January 15, 2016, 10:12:04 PM »
I think we'd pretty much all agree that the one thing that could improve this clueless clusterfuck of a management structure would be another executive who knows nothing about football.

 


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