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Offline preston28

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #90 on: January 14, 2016, 02:05:28 PM »
Love this bit from our new chairman..
"As we have witnessed in the Premier League this year with other clubs - money no longer buys success."

Quite a statement from a Man City fan.
Very good point.

I feel a new soundbite coming  with some scarves:  'Proud History, a future of austerity and underachieving'

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2016, 02:06:41 PM »
Try as I might I cannot get even a little bit get interested in this news. It might as well been Reg Hollis as far as I am concerned. I am interested in results and results only and that is down to the manager and his playing staff. This manager is trying to take the club forward. I hope this new bloke backs him to the hilt.

At the end of the day it is still Mr Lerner calling the shots. He owns the club.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #92 on: January 14, 2016, 02:11:49 PM »
Pat Murphy missing the obvious flaw in his snide remarks again

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #93 on: January 14, 2016, 02:12:33 PM »
Good news, this can only be for the better surely?
Hopefully he's up to the job, its a massive one and he needs to be ruthless. Welcome aboard Steven Hollis.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #94 on: January 14, 2016, 02:16:09 PM »
Pat Murphy missing the obvious flaw in his snide remarks again

But the summer recruitment was awful - the management team failed to replace the quality that was lost nevermind improve on last years near escape.

If you're implying it was Sherwood's fault then it's also fair to criticise the man that appointed him.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #95 on: January 14, 2016, 02:16:55 PM »
Love this bit from our new chairman..
"As we have witnessed in the Premier League this year with other clubs - money no longer buys success."

Quite a statement from a Man City fan.

Isn't what he is suggesting that this season shows good management, good players and good coaching this season can be an alternative to just buying your way to success? That he is citing sides like Leicester or Palace or West Ham of another way to become a solid PL club?

I don't think he is dismissing money being important but that it has to spent well on top of a variety of other items that can help make a side competitive and successful.
He might want to check just how 'little' those clubs have spent, and how 'small' their wage bills are. I think he'd be surprised.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #96 on: January 14, 2016, 02:19:20 PM »
If he is a Man City fan I hope he was one before the Masours and the free taxpayer funded ground.  I will have more respect for him if he did some time at Maine Rd watching the endearing clowns of the First Division.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #97 on: January 14, 2016, 02:19:33 PM »
Does anyone know of an organisation that has both a chairman and a CEO? How can a CEO be a CEO when he reports to a chairman?

Whatever Hollis' (and Fox's) capabilities are, we have a structure in place that lends itself to conflict and politics and not to good corporate management.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #98 on: January 14, 2016, 02:19:49 PM »
Former Production Editor on the Teletubbies Fuck sake what next??

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #99 on: January 14, 2016, 02:20:35 PM »
Good
"As we have witnessed in the Premier League this year with other clubs - money no longer buys success. Randy has consistently provided financial backing no less so than last year."

That strikes me as a fairly dangerous and worrying conclusion to have arrived at already!

Randy has provided consistent financial backing, but only in the same sense that Agbonlahor is a consistent Premier League goalscorer.

Yes it seems a slightly flawed conclusion. But good luck to the new Chairman.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #100 on: January 14, 2016, 02:22:41 PM »
Pat Murphy missing the obvious flaw in his snide remarks again

But the summer recruitment was awful - the management team failed to replace the quality that was lost nevermind improve on last years near escape.

If you're implying it was Sherwood's fault then it's also fair to criticise the man that appointed him.

Well I'd argue that Amavi, Veretout and Ayew have probably been our best three players this year. The latter two in particular have grown brilliantly into their roles, so I'd hardly say recruitment was a disaster.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #101 on: January 14, 2016, 02:24:09 PM »
Does anyone know of an organisation that has both a chairman and a CEO? How can a CEO be a CEO when he reports to a chairman?

Whatever Hollis' (and Fox's) capabilities are, we have a structure in place that lends itself to conflict and politics and not to good corporate management.

There are lots.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #102 on: January 14, 2016, 02:26:26 PM »
Good
"As we have witnessed in the Premier League this year with other clubs - money no longer buys success. Randy has consistently provided financial backing no less so than last year."

That strikes me as a fairly dangerous and worrying conclusion to have arrived at already!

Randy has provided consistent financial backing, but only in the same sense that Agbonlahor is a consistent Premier League goalscorer.

Yes it seems a slightly flawed conclusion. But good luck to the new Chairman.

Also I hope that he/they realise that part of the reason we're in the mess we're in is that we simply haven't bought the quality of players we needed to buy. Saying that more players with the ability of Veretout and Ayew and we'll be flying.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #103 on: January 14, 2016, 02:28:06 PM »
Does anyone know of an organisation that has both a chairman and a CEO? How can a CEO be a CEO when he reports to a chairman?

Whatever Hollis' (and Fox's) capabilities are, we have a structure in place that lends itself to conflict and politics and not to good corporate management.

Nearly all of them. Clue is in the title. The Chief Executive Officer represents the Executive, who run the club on a day-to-day basis. The Chairman represents the owners, usually shareholders but in this case Randy, and sets out the parameters that the Executive are to follow and holds their performance against those objectives to account.

http://www.differencebetween.net/business/difference-between-ceo-and-chairman/

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #104 on: January 14, 2016, 02:28:56 PM »
The largely expected cobblers from the invisible man; & a new Chairman with bugger-all football experience. Triffick. 

 


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