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Online OzVilla

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2016, 12:51:16 PM »
Ideal role for Big Ron this IMO. Always been a great figurehead and know the game and the Villa.

Appointing a well known racist is what we need to bring crowds flocking back in multicultural Birmingham.

You say some silly things sometimes.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2016, 12:54:47 PM »
I think appointing someone who has been shunned from public life due to a racist outburst and who, in any case, has had no football experience outside a Sky documentary in the last decade just because he used to be involved with Villa in the olden days is more silly than suggesting that it might not be a good move.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2016, 12:57:24 PM »
He acknowledged that leadership and discipline has to come from the top, so hopefully this guy will get them in order. I would hope for a very uncomfortable few months at the club as new expectations are enforced and lazy attitudes challenged.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2016, 01:02:09 PM »
But, when are you selling?

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2016, 01:02:49 PM »
I never know why people are so keen to appoint people that have been out of the game for ages. I like Taylor but his last spell was poor and he's only going to have become more out of touch since.
You are completely summising and have nothing to back that up.

 Taken from Wikipedia; "Taylor served as chairman of Watford F.C. from 2009 until 2012 with whom he still holds position of honorary life-president"
Doesnt sound to me like someone completely out of touch with the game. And looking at Watford now, I know which club I think is in a better state.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2016, 01:04:57 PM »
Further proof for some people that whatever we do it's the wrong thing. I don't want a football man in charge of my club. I don't have an issue if he consults football men as part of his due diligence, or even appoints one in a consultancy capacity. But I want someone who understands how to operate a multi million £ business in a multi billion £ industry. I hope Randy provides him the financial support much like Joe Lewis provides to Daniel Levy and then stays out of the way.

Good luck Steve

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2016, 01:07:16 PM »
I always think of the chairman as the bloke in charge of selecting the port and lah-de-dahs, so I am not going to get too carried away either way.

I am more concerned with the stuff on the pitch, which for the most part of the last few years has been awful.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2016, 01:07:17 PM »
I never know why people are so keen to appoint people that have been out of the game for ages. I like Taylor but his last spell was poor and he's only going to have become more out of touch since.
You are completely summising and have nothing to back that up.

 Taken from Wikipedia; "Taylor served as chairman of Watford F.C. from 2009 until 2012 with whom he still holds position of honorary life-president"
Doesnt sound to me like someone completely out of touch with the game. And looking at Watford now, I know which club I think is in a better state.

Honorary Life President is a largely meaningless title. Watford's success began when Taylor was replaced as Chairman by the Italian bloke who kept nicking players from Udinese.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2016, 01:08:53 PM »
Or pretty much just given the players by Udinese because the owners own both clubs.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2016, 01:09:16 PM »
I never know why people are so keen to appoint people that have been out of the game for ages. I like Taylor but his last spell was poor and he's only going to have become more out of touch since.
You are completely summising and have nothing to back that up.

 Taken from Wikipedia; "Taylor served as chairman of Watford F.C. from 2009 until 2012 with whom he still holds position of honorary life-president"
Doesnt sound to me like someone completely out of touch with the game. And looking at Watford now, I know which club I think is in a better state.
Why should being out of the game for a while, be an obstacle anyway.
If you understand the fully fundamentals of any discipline, business or sport, you can bring that knowledge, experience and understanding into a current role.
Taylor, Atkinson, and others, know what makes a football club 'tick'.
They have experienced great success in their careers.

Someone like that would be of great benefit to the club, I'm sure.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2016, 01:09:50 PM »
My only concern is that he doesn't have any experience of running a football club, rather than be concerned about him not being a football man. Still, let's see how it goes.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2016, 01:11:21 PM »
Money may not guarentee sucess but buying better quality players and a decent coach to manage them will ensure that you won't be fighting relegation for 5 FUCKING YEARS

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2016, 01:15:44 PM »
We've really gone a long time without anyone taking a long term view of how the club operates. Everything has been done either on the cheap or with a short term notion. With Remi, maybe things chance, behind the scenes, is Fox et all good enough? We can't keep blaming managers year after year, it's cost us a fortune and done incredible damage with regards to continuity and stability.

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2016, 01:17:07 PM »
"We're Aston Villa, we have experience of working with quasi-governmental organisations..."

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Re: New chairman and Lerner ramblings
« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2016, 01:18:26 PM »
I never know why people are so keen to appoint people that have been out of the game for ages. I like Taylor but his last spell was poor and he's only going to have become more out of touch since.
You are completely summising and have nothing to back that up.

 Taken from Wikipedia; "Taylor served as chairman of Watford F.C. from 2009 until 2012 with whom he still holds position of honorary life-president"
Doesnt sound to me like someone completely out of touch with the game. And looking at Watford now, I know which club I think is in a better state.
Why should being out of the game for a while, be an obstacle anyway.
If you understand the fully fundamentals of any discipline, business or sport, you can bring that knowledge, experience and understanding into a current role.
Taylor, Atkinson, and others, know what makes a football club 'tick'.
They have experienced great success in their careers.

Someone like that would be of great benefit to the club, I'm sure.

How? What would they bring to the table? If they're supposed to be an inspiration, we've already got Ian Taylor in an ambassadorial role. And whatever one thinks of Atkinson, he's hardly going to inspire the black players who would read the inevitable negative press his appointment would provoke.

They're not going to add much in terms of scouting as their foreign network is likely to be much smaller than that of most Premier League (or even Championship) clubs.

They won't add much tactically as it is unfeasible that Garde would allow them to give him advice let alone enter the dressing room, as it would be seen as a fundamental undermining of his authority.

If Newcastle announced that they were reappointing Kevin Keegan or bringing back Ossie Ardiles in some arbitrary, meaningless, role just because they used to manage the club, we'd all be taking the piss.

 


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