Quote from: sickbeggar on January 09, 2016, 12:51:11 PMNow i'm not defending Sherwood but if you were in the market for a top striker, then a middling championship striker wouldn't be your 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice however much of a bellend of a manager you are. Neither would adebayor frankly so you think why? Because we tried to sign Adebayor, agreed a deal with his club then he decided that he didn't want to come to us. And when that happened we signed Gestede. That's a pretty good sign that Adebayor was first choice and Gestede was second choice. Why would you think that Adebayor and Gestede weren't our first and second choices?
Now i'm not defending Sherwood but if you were in the market for a top striker, then a middling championship striker wouldn't be your 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice however much of a bellend of a manager you are. Neither would adebayor frankly so you think why?
Quote from: Dave on January 09, 2016, 12:55:34 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on January 09, 2016, 12:51:11 PMNow i'm not defending Sherwood but if you were in the market for a top striker, then a middling championship striker wouldn't be your 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice however much of a bellend of a manager you are. Neither would adebayor frankly so you think why? Because we tried to sign Adebayor, agreed a deal with his club then he decided that he didn't want to come to us. And when that happened we signed Gestede. That's a pretty good sign that Adebayor was first choice and Gestede was second choice. Why would you think that Adebayor and Gestede weren't our first and second choices?Because we've been run on a shoestring since Houllier's time?
Of those three, Benteke was the biggest loss by a mile and replaced by Gestede. By all accounts, at the request of Sherwood when they were suggesting alternatives. Is that the board's fault, or Sherwood's fault?
Quote from: Dave on January 09, 2016, 12:05:01 PMOf those three, Benteke was the biggest loss by a mile and replaced by Gestede. By all accounts, at the request of Sherwood when they were suggesting alternatives. Is that the board's fault, or Sherwood's fault?I haven't seen anything to this effect reported anywhere, but it certainly sounds plausible. Depressingly so!Where did you see it, out of interest?
Quote from: sickbeggar on January 09, 2016, 12:58:22 PMQuote from: Dave on January 09, 2016, 12:55:34 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on January 09, 2016, 12:51:11 PMNow i'm not defending Sherwood but if you were in the market for a top striker, then a middling championship striker wouldn't be your 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice however much of a bellend of a manager you are. Neither would adebayor frankly so you think why? Because we tried to sign Adebayor, agreed a deal with his club then he decided that he didn't want to come to us. And when that happened we signed Gestede. That's a pretty good sign that Adebayor was first choice and Gestede was second choice. Why would you think that Adebayor and Gestede weren't our first and second choices?Because we've been run on a shoestring since Houllier's time?So... which type of "shoestring" signings do you think were our first choices if you think neither Gestede nor Adebayor were? There must be a reason that you think that the first person we tried to sign and the one that we ultimately did sign weren't the people that we wanted to sign.
Quote from: Dave on January 09, 2016, 01:02:23 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on January 09, 2016, 12:58:22 PMQuote from: Dave on January 09, 2016, 12:55:34 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on January 09, 2016, 12:51:11 PMNow i'm not defending Sherwood but if you were in the market for a top striker, then a middling championship striker wouldn't be your 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice however much of a bellend of a manager you are. Neither would adebayor frankly so you think why? Because we tried to sign Adebayor, agreed a deal with his club then he decided that he didn't want to come to us. And when that happened we signed Gestede. That's a pretty good sign that Adebayor was first choice and Gestede was second choice. Why would you think that Adebayor and Gestede weren't our first and second choices?Because we've been run on a shoestring since Houllier's time?So... which type of "shoestring" signings do you think were our first choices if you think neither Gestede nor Adebayor were? There must be a reason that you think that the first person we tried to sign and the one that we ultimately did sign weren't the people that we wanted to sign.ah, i'm on about who Sherwood wanted to sign, not the club. Just look at our spending. you pocket 45m from sales, spend 8m more on top and your main striking replacement gets 15% of that budget, if that. Now Sherwood may be a fuckwitt but he knows the going rate for a premiership striker and its not 6m or 8m
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Quote from: SamTheMouse on January 09, 2016, 01:02:27 PMQuote from: Dave on January 09, 2016, 12:05:01 PMOf those three, Benteke was the biggest loss by a mile and replaced by Gestede. By all accounts, at the request of Sherwood when they were suggesting alternatives. Is that the board's fault, or Sherwood's fault?I haven't seen anything to this effect reported anywhere, but it certainly sounds plausible. Depressingly so!Where did you see it, out of interest?Reply #20 on this thread.
Quote from: sickbeggar on January 09, 2016, 01:11:59 PMQuote from: Dave on January 09, 2016, 01:02:23 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on January 09, 2016, 12:58:22 PMQuote from: Dave on January 09, 2016, 12:55:34 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on January 09, 2016, 12:51:11 PMNow i'm not defending Sherwood but if you were in the market for a top striker, then a middling championship striker wouldn't be your 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice however much of a bellend of a manager you are. Neither would adebayor frankly so you think why? Because we tried to sign Adebayor, agreed a deal with his club then he decided that he didn't want to come to us. And when that happened we signed Gestede. That's a pretty good sign that Adebayor was first choice and Gestede was second choice. Why would you think that Adebayor and Gestede weren't our first and second choices?Because we've been run on a shoestring since Houllier's time?So... which type of "shoestring" signings do you think were our first choices if you think neither Gestede nor Adebayor were? There must be a reason that you think that the first person we tried to sign and the one that we ultimately did sign weren't the people that we wanted to sign.ah, i'm on about who Sherwood wanted to sign, not the club. Just look at our spending. you pocket 45m from sales, spend 8m more on top and your main striking replacement gets 15% of that budget, if that. Now Sherwood may be a fuckwitt but he knows the going rate for a premiership striker and its not 6m or 8mThe striker that he wanted to sign would have been joining us on a transfer fee of £0. How does that fit into the 'going rate'?larf! yeah i'm sure sherwood was told money no object. He went for adebeyor because what was saved on the transfer fee went on the wages. The fact remains if you pocket 32 million for a striker you should at least be looking at spending nearly half that on a top quality replacement, not hunt around the the championship and European backwaters for a bargain or someone with potential.
There were photos of Adebayor at Bodymoor Heath during the closest season.Then just after the transfer window cameEmmanuel Adebayor refuses to leave Tottenham Hotspur because he needs a sign from God
Quote from: Villa in Denmark on January 09, 2016, 04:00:16 PMThere were photos of Adebayor at Bodymoor Heath during the closest season.Then just after the transfer window cameEmmanuel Adebayor refuses to leave Tottenham Hotspur because he needs a sign from GodIn fairness God was clearly looking after Adebayor when he didn't give him a sign to move Villa.
Quote from: PaulWinch again on January 11, 2016, 02:43:44 PMQuote from: Villa in Denmark on January 09, 2016, 04:00:16 PMThere were photos of Adebayor at Bodymoor Heath during the closest season.Then just after the transfer window cameEmmanuel Adebayor refuses to leave Tottenham Hotspur because he needs a sign from GodIn fairness God was clearly looking after Adebayor when he didn't give him a sign to move Villa.and God was looking after us as well!
In fitting with the theme , Sherwood reportedly wanted Townsend reports today are Spurs want 14mil , no loan and he not played 90 mins in 2 years.Sure this would have been same in summer hence why we didn't go in for himAt end of summer window we tried to get Dwight Gayle , I would have gone for him before Gestede at least he has goals in Prem league