I just want it to be confirmed.

[joe_c]

I wondered whether we could explore the possibility of going into administration just for the points deduction and the associated acceleration in confirmation of demise.

[tomd2103]

I know this might sound like pie in the sky now and does nothing to quell the understandable anger but the back end of the promotion campaign was both tense and a lot of fun at times. I especially recall with fondness sat in the upper Trinity as Kevin Gage's cross was met at full pace by Platty's nut to win the game versus Bradford. Not sure what the attendance was that day but it was a good one at VP. Promotion means relegation so its going to be tough to take when it almost now inevitably arrives, but when I look at who is at the top of the table right now in the Championship it's hardly a bunch of world beaters or world beating managers. I know this seems impossible to imagine now but Garde with his staff and with the support to get us out can do it and we can enjoy winning again as we take that ride. Or at least that's what I'm hoping. This making wankers of ourselves year after year in the PL has gotten very old and we almost need to start again.

Yep and it will be refreshing to have something to (hopefully) challenge for.  Even our good and exciting cup runs in the past few years have ultimately ended in humiliation (Bradford and the no show at Wembley last May).   

[brian green]

TV, I would like to try to ease the pain.

I promise you there will come a day in the future when you are whooping and hollering with joy and pleasure watching the Villa. All of this will be like a bad dream. The trick is not to screw yourself up inside but to use these black, black days of endless pain to make the highs when they come that much more thrilling and wonderful.

Remember what Mark Twain said - Acid damages far more the vessel in which it is stored than anything it is ever poured on.

[Villa in Denmark]

What team will relegate us then.....way it's looking it could be sometime in early March but I do think we'll get some more points in the period.

Man. United away I think 6 games before the end of the season would be fitting given our dismall over record v them in the last 20 years.

I would be at peace with Man U relegating us though I think we'll be gone long before then. I'm thinking we could be the team to relegate Newcastle again.

Relegating Newcastle in our final home game and taking them down with us would be the only glory for us this season. They won't go down though, they dominated Arsenal yesterday and have better players than us.

If they're safe by the time we play them they will rip the piss big time and we'll have to take our medicine after 2009. We won't still be crying about it 7 years later though like them.

It might be funny as f##k but there is absolutely no glory in it what so ever.

[pbavfckuwait]

Brian the problem is, some of us old buggers may never see those glory days again, because this aint a band aid problem. (Cue the Bono puns)

[villabear]

It might just tip us over the Edge

[Mouse Potato]

Ure so right Villabear

[CT]

Lets hope we're not all waiting until October for the next win......

[dave.woodhall]

Hold it right there. Puns are one thing; U2 puns are a different thing altogether.

[brian green]

Kuwait, if I only have a limited number of seasons to follow Villa I don't want to go out watching anti football ground out by a Pulis clone.

[villabear]

I've been Mullen it over.



Sorry

[dave.woodhall]

I've been Mullen it over.



Sorry

Verbal warning.

[brian green]

Is U2 a band of some sort?

I thought it was Admiral Karl Doenitz's wolf pack flagship.  Silly name for a band if that is what it is.

[Toronto Villa]

Today is the day that if there was any hope it has been vanquished. With the opportunity to move 5 points from safety instead we have gone and done this. What an utter shambles we are. We are going down, we deserve it and we are an embarrassment to the league.

[mattjpa]

There you go. As confirmed as you will get it without the maths