Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:28:51 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 05:23:01 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:18:43 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 05:16:59 PMQuote from: olaftab on January 07, 2016, 05:14:25 PMQuote from: joe_c on January 07, 2016, 02:18:44 AMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on January 05, 2016, 07:42:06 PMSome things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.Not sure that was Corinthian or less hassle policy. They would have done well to recall that our three most successful managers since Sir Ron Taylor, Atkinson and Little were poached from other clubs. Probably more to do with not wanting to pay compensation. Or not, bearing in mind the next two appointments. 'Still saved a bit of money though, and that's what it's all about since O'Neill walked. If that's what it's all about how come they didn't do it the next twice? I don't know, why don't you ask them? we've spent the last 6 years looking at ways to hack away at our spending though, unless you missed all that?
Quote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 05:23:01 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:18:43 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 05:16:59 PMQuote from: olaftab on January 07, 2016, 05:14:25 PMQuote from: joe_c on January 07, 2016, 02:18:44 AMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on January 05, 2016, 07:42:06 PMSome things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.Not sure that was Corinthian or less hassle policy. They would have done well to recall that our three most successful managers since Sir Ron Taylor, Atkinson and Little were poached from other clubs. Probably more to do with not wanting to pay compensation. Or not, bearing in mind the next two appointments. 'Still saved a bit of money though, and that's what it's all about since O'Neill walked. If that's what it's all about how come they didn't do it the next twice?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:18:43 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 05:16:59 PMQuote from: olaftab on January 07, 2016, 05:14:25 PMQuote from: joe_c on January 07, 2016, 02:18:44 AMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on January 05, 2016, 07:42:06 PMSome things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.Not sure that was Corinthian or less hassle policy. They would have done well to recall that our three most successful managers since Sir Ron Taylor, Atkinson and Little were poached from other clubs. Probably more to do with not wanting to pay compensation. Or not, bearing in mind the next two appointments. 'Still saved a bit of money though, and that's what it's all about since O'Neill walked.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 05:16:59 PMQuote from: olaftab on January 07, 2016, 05:14:25 PMQuote from: joe_c on January 07, 2016, 02:18:44 AMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on January 05, 2016, 07:42:06 PMSome things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.Not sure that was Corinthian or less hassle policy. They would have done well to recall that our three most successful managers since Sir Ron Taylor, Atkinson and Little were poached from other clubs. Probably more to do with not wanting to pay compensation. Or not, bearing in mind the next two appointments.
Quote from: olaftab on January 07, 2016, 05:14:25 PMQuote from: joe_c on January 07, 2016, 02:18:44 AMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on January 05, 2016, 07:42:06 PMSome things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.Not sure that was Corinthian or less hassle policy. They would have done well to recall that our three most successful managers since Sir Ron Taylor, Atkinson and Little were poached from other clubs. Probably more to do with not wanting to pay compensation.
Quote from: joe_c on January 07, 2016, 02:18:44 AMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on January 05, 2016, 07:42:06 PMSome things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.Not sure that was Corinthian or less hassle policy. They would have done well to recall that our three most successful managers since Sir Ron Taylor, Atkinson and Little were poached from other clubs.
Quote from: cheltenhamlion on January 05, 2016, 07:42:06 PMSome things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.
Some things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.
Is there any point in asking for a McLeish/Lambert explanation, or five lots of compensation?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:40:40 PMIs there any point in asking for a McLeish/Lambert explanation, or five lots of compensation?Hollier was ideal for Lerner. Out of work and no compensation. Fits in well with his new austerity plan which he's carried on since. Why you being so touchy about it?
Quote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 05:43:39 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:40:40 PMIs there any point in asking for a McLeish/Lambert explanation, or five lots of compensation?Hollier was ideal for Lerner. Out of work and no compensation. Fits in well with his new austerity plan which he's carried on since. Why you being so touchy about it?Call me mad if you like, but when I disagree with something I'll often say so. Now, again. How does this "out of work manager is all part of the plan" theory of yours square against the next two managers appointed and the five lots of compensation paid out?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:49:23 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 05:43:39 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:40:40 PMIs there any point in asking for a McLeish/Lambert explanation, or five lots of compensation?Hollier was ideal for Lerner. Out of work and no compensation. Fits in well with his new austerity plan which he's carried on since. Why you being so touchy about it?Call me mad if you like, but when I disagree with something I'll often say so. Now, again. How does this "out of work manager is all part of the plan" theory of yours square against the next two managers appointed and the five lots of compensation paid out? well we'll never know, Dave (unless you've got a hotline to the club), but in my opinion we went for the cheapest option at the time. I mean it's not like we've done things on the cheap ever since though is it?
Quote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 06:09:15 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:49:23 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 05:43:39 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:40:40 PMIs there any point in asking for a McLeish/Lambert explanation, or five lots of compensation?Hollier was ideal for Lerner. Out of work and no compensation. Fits in well with his new austerity plan which he's carried on since. Why you being so touchy about it?Call me mad if you like, but when I disagree with something I'll often say so. Now, again. How does this "out of work manager is all part of the plan" theory of yours square against the next two managers appointed and the five lots of compensation paid out? well we'll never know, Dave (unless you've got a hotline to the club), but in my opinion we went for the cheapest option at the time. I mean it's not like we've done things on the cheap ever since though is it? Maybe you could ask them yourself, if you attend the Trust AGM. I would imagine that would be a more effective way of getting your views heard than shouting in a car park.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 06:09:15 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:49:23 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 05:43:39 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:40:40 PMIs there any point in asking for a McLeish/Lambert explanation, or five lots of compensation?Hollier was ideal for Lerner. Out of work and no compensation. Fits in well with his new austerity plan which he's carried on since. Why you being so touchy about it?Call me mad if you like, but when I disagree with something I'll often say so. Now, again. How does this "out of work manager is all part of the plan" theory of yours square against the next two managers appointed and the five lots of compensation paid out? well we'll never know, Dave (unless you've got a hotline to the club), but in my opinion we went for the cheapest option at the time. I mean it's not like we've done things on the cheap ever since though is it? Christ sake, you're like a stuck record.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 06:12:41 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 06:09:15 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:49:23 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 07, 2016, 05:43:39 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2016, 05:40:40 PMIs there any point in asking for a McLeish/Lambert explanation, or five lots of compensation?Hollier was ideal for Lerner. Out of work and no compensation. Fits in well with his new austerity plan which he's carried on since. Why you being so touchy about it?Call me mad if you like, but when I disagree with something I'll often say so. Now, again. How does this "out of work manager is all part of the plan" theory of yours square against the next two managers appointed and the five lots of compensation paid out? well we'll never know, Dave (unless you've got a hotline to the club), but in my opinion we went for the cheapest option at the time. I mean it's not like we've done things on the cheap ever since though is it? Maybe you could ask them yourself, if you attend the Trust AGM. I would imagine that would be a more effective way of getting your views heard than shouting in a car park. 'Yes Dave, I'll be at the Trust AGM as well. See you there.