AGM - Protest

[LeeB]

Sign this if you interested enough:

https://www.change.org/p/lerneroutrandy-lerner-and-his-administration-out-of-aston-villa-now

A petition urging Lerner to sell a club he is already trying to sell.
Marvellous.


If he really wanted to sell it , he could have done so.

To whom? I want him gone but I've honestly had enough of grown adults that can't grasp a fairly simple fucking concept.

Sorry about that! What's the fairly simple concept?

The concept of only being able to sell something if there is a buyer.

[Durham58]

Sign this if you interested enough:

https://www.change.org/p/lerneroutrandy-lerner-and-his-administration-out-of-aston-villa-now

A petition urging Lerner to sell a club he is already trying to sell.
Marvellous.


If he really wanted to sell it , he could have done so.

To whom? I want him gone but I've honestly had enough of grown adults that can't grasp a fairly simple fucking concept.

Sorry about that! What's the fairly simple concept?

The concept of only being able to sell something if there is a buyer.

I understand that and there are plenty of things in this world that you couldn't find a buyer for, but Aston Villa isn't one of them.

[LeeB]

I'd like to buy it mate, but I haven't got a spare £150m. I suspect all other interested parties find themselves in the same predicament.

[Villa in Denmark]

Alternatively drop the price to a point where Carsen's Yeung's less scrupulous but even more dodgy younger brother can have a go.

Or I'm sure Ray Ransom would still be interested if the price was right.

Or that consortium that's done such a wonderful for Coventry can probably raise enough cash by selling Cov and mortgaging themselves (us) to the hilt if the price drops to around £100M.

Right now this is undeniably utterly gut wrenchingly shit.
Believe it or not it could be worse.

It could have been someone as hopelessly out of his depth as Lerner and who'd done all of the money after the buyout as loans with banks.

Or even better, borrowed the money to buy us.

I think that they're called Leeds and Portsmouth.

There's obviously a sliding scale where the number of potential buyers increases as the price decreases.

Unfortunately the chances of hitting an absolute shyster also increase as the price decreases.

10 years ago the overwhelming feeling I recall was "anyone but Ellis." That worked our well didn't it?

We sure as he'll can't afford our "anyone but Lerner" being the same or worse.


EDIT: The anyone but Ellis line is in no way, shape or form a pining for the Days of Doug. If he'd had to make his 80's comeback at all, his time had gone by the mid 90's at the absolute latest.

[tomd2103]

Alternatively drop the price to a point where Carsen's Yeung's less scrupulous but even more dodgy younger brother can have a go.

Or I'm sure Ray Ransom would still be interested if the price was right.

Or that consortium that's done such a wonderful for Coventry can probably raise enough cash by selling Cov and mortgaging themselves (us) to the hilt if the price drops to around £100M.

Right now this is undeniably utterly gut wrenchingly shit.
Believe it or not it could be worse.

It could have been someone as hopelessly out of his depth as Lerner and who'd done all of the money after the buyout as loans with banks.

Or even better, borrowed the money to buy us.

I think that they're called Leeds and Portsmouth.

There's obviously a sliding scale where the number of potential buyers increases as the price decreases.

Unfortunately the chances of hitting an absolute shyster also increase as the price decreases.

10 years ago the overwhelming feeling I recall was "anyone but Ellis." That worked our well didn't it?

We sure as he'll can't afford our "anyone but Lerner" being the same or worse.


EDIT: The anyone but Ellis line is in no way, shape or form a pining for the Days of Doug. If he'd had to make his 80's comeback at all, his time had gone by the mid 90's at the absolute latest.

Agree with this.  As bad as the current situation is, it could be a lot worse.

[Durham58]

I'd like to buy it mate, but I haven't got a spare £150m. I suspect all other interested parties find themselves in the same predicament.

I doubt prospective purchasers see that as a predicament, it's just a ridiculous asking price that no ones going to pay.

 If and when Lerner gets real , the  club will be sold.

[joe_c]

Some things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.

As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.

[steamer]

Alternatively drop the price to a point where Carsen's Yeung's less scrupulous but even more dodgy younger brother can have a go.

Or I'm sure Ray Ransom would still be interested if the price was right.

Or that consortium that's done such a wonderful for Coventry can probably raise enough cash by selling Cov and mortgaging themselves (us) to the hilt if the price drops to around £100M.

Right now this is undeniably utterly gut wrenchingly shit.
Believe it or not it could be worse.

It could have been someone as hopelessly out of his depth as Lerner and who'd done all of the money after the buyout as loans with banks.

Or even better, borrowed the money to buy us.

I think that they're called Leeds and Portsmouth.

There's obviously a sliding scale where the number of potential buyers increases as the price decreases.

Unfortunately the chances of hitting an absolute shyster also increase as the price decreases.

10 years ago the overwhelming feeling I recall was "anyone but Ellis." That worked our well didn't it?

We sure as he'll can't afford our "anyone but Lerner" being the same or worse.


EDIT: The anyone but Ellis line is in no way, shape or form a pining for the Days of Doug. If he'd had to make his 80's comeback at all, his time had gone by the mid 90's at the absolute latest.



Spot on for me.
Where are the investors with true intentions and money of their own to Invest ?
We could easily become, Small Heath, Leeds or Portsmouth.
Times are tough out there for billionaires.
Chelsea, The Russian paid the money long ago and Chelsea are a Fashionable London Address.
Utd, Much said about the Glaziers, but with their world wide appeal they generate cash.
Liverpool, American consortium, and again however much we may dislike it they have a more successful recent history than us and have a global following that we do not have.
Citeh, they must still be pinching themselves to believe it is true. I think Monseur (spelling?) bought them as they were in Manchester and guaranteed to have coverage as Rivals to Utd.
Who else ?
Everton have been for sale for ever
I also dreamt about Doug going, Lerner may have lost interest and  made many bad (terrible) management decisions but he is not a Carson type Shyster, at a lower price as VID says they will be crawling out of the woodwork.

[Clampy]

I'd like to buy it mate, but I haven't got a spare £150m. I suspect all other interested parties find themselves in the same predicament.

I doubt prospective purchasers see that as a predicament, it's just a ridiculous asking price that no ones going to pay.

 If and when Lerner gets real , the  club will be sold.

What price do you think would be realistic?

[Malandro]

I'd like to buy it mate, but I haven't got a spare £150m. I suspect all other interested parties find themselves in the same predicament.

I doubt prospective purchasers see that as a predicament, it's just a ridiculous asking price that no ones going to pay.

 If and when Lerner gets real , the  club will be sold.

What price do you think would be realistic?

scrap value at the moment

[cheltenhamlion]

Some things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.

As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.

Yep. When faced with their first proper decision they invited postal applications and then decided on a "Premier League experience only" policy.

[DB]

Which they did with AMc, well sort of, he had the experience of coming from a team he had relegated. Rewarding failure.

[Allan C]

I'm no businessman but surely if Learner really wanted to sell, he would make the club an attractive propersition to a potential buyer IE in a challenging league position with good players playing attractive football and just waiting to collect the TV windfall. We're anything but that

[JasonStevens]

Alternatively drop the price to a point where Carsen's Yeung's less scrupulous but even more dodgy younger brother can have a go.

Or I'm sure Ray Ransom would still be interested if the price was right.

Or that consortium that's done such a wonderful for Coventry can probably raise enough cash by selling Cov and mortgaging themselves (us) to the hilt if the price drops to around £100M.

Right now this is undeniably utterly gut wrenchingly shit.
Believe it or not it could be worse.

It could have been someone as hopelessly out of his depth as Lerner and who'd done all of the money after the buyout as loans with banks.

Or even better, borrowed the money to buy us.

I think that they're called Leeds and Portsmouth.

There's obviously a sliding scale where the number of potential buyers increases as the price decreases.

Unfortunately the chances of hitting an absolute shyster also increase as the price decreases.

10 years ago the overwhelming feeling I recall was "anyone but Ellis." That worked our well didn't it?

We sure as he'll can't afford our "anyone but Lerner" being the same or worse.


EDIT: The anyone but Ellis line is in no way, shape or form a pining for the Days of Doug. If he'd had to make his 80's comeback at all, his time had gone by the mid 90's at the absolute latest.

Agree with this.  As bad as the current situation is, it could be a lot worse.

Or glass half full - it could be a lot better

[LeeB]

Alternatively drop the price to a point where Carsen's Yeung's less scrupulous but even more dodgy younger brother can have a go.

Or I'm sure Ray Ransom would still be interested if the price was right.

Or that consortium that's done such a wonderful for Coventry can probably raise enough cash by selling Cov and mortgaging themselves (us) to the hilt if the price drops to around £100M.

Right now this is undeniably utterly gut wrenchingly shit.
Believe it or not it could be worse.

It could have been someone as hopelessly out of his depth as Lerner and who'd done all of the money after the buyout as loans with banks.

Or even better, borrowed the money to buy us.

I think that they're called Leeds and Portsmouth.

There's obviously a sliding scale where the number of potential buyers increases as the price decreases.

Unfortunately the chances of hitting an absolute shyster also increase as the price decreases.

10 years ago the overwhelming feeling I recall was "anyone but Ellis." That worked our well didn't it?

We sure as he'll can't afford our "anyone but Lerner" being the same or worse.


EDIT: The anyone but Ellis line is in no way, shape or form a pining for the Days of Doug. If he'd had to make his 80's comeback at all, his time had gone by the mid 90's at the absolute latest.

Agree with this.  As bad as the current situation is, it could be a lot worse.

Or glass half full - it could be a lot better

Go for it, explain how.