AGM - Protest

[hvkfa1]

Then can he reply to my request with some finance based facts as Lerner having plenty of money (having spent 200m+ on our hobby) and I will be pleased to be illuminated by how much more he should have spent on Villa's Player transfer and more importantly wages above and beyond what has already been spent.

E.g. Heskey cost 3.5m in transfer and c£10m in wages. Given similar and c12m in wages.
E.g. CNZ cost 9.5m and will also cost £12-15m in wages.

And how this could be financed unless you allude that Lerner should have spent more and more. £100m more? £200m more? £300m more.

We all know what he did spend was oft spent unwisely but how much more should he spend.

It's his business that is in jeopardy and our club that is being progressively destroyed by him.
I can see no reason why supporters would care if he had to spend all his money getting us out of this mess. He has been a dreadful owner.

I'm sure they wouldn't.

But as he's not going to do that, what's the point of bringing it up?

I didn't bring anything up but was replying to an earlier post.

[Durham58]

Then can he reply to my request with some finance based facts as Lerner having plenty of money (having spent 200m+ on our hobby) and I will be pleased to be illuminated by how much more he should have spent on Villa's Player transfer and more importantly wages above and beyond what has already been spent.

E.g. Heskey cost 3.5m in transfer and c£10m in wages. Given similar and c12m in wages.
E.g. CNZ cost 9.5m and will also cost £12-15m in wages.

And how this could be financed unless you allude that Lerner should have spent more and more. £100m more? £200m more? £300m more.

We all know what he did spend was oft spent unwisely but how much more should he spend.

Lerner didn't need to keep spending at his initial rate, but neither did he need to slam the breaks on in such a sudden and destructive fashion.

To go from being fairly aggressive in the transfer market such that we could get players of the quality Milner out of Newcastle we have been reduced to buying second rate  players some of whom would struggle to make an impact in the second division let alone the premier league.

 

[olaftab]

Some things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.

As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.

Not sure that was Corinthian or less hassle policy. They would have done well to recall that our three most successful managers since Sir Ron  Taylor, Atkinson and Little were poached from other clubs.

[saunders_heroes]

Some things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.

As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.

Not sure that was Corinthian or less hassle policy. They would have done well to recall that our three most successful managers since Sir Ron  Taylor, Atkinson and Little were poached from other clubs.

Probably more to do with not wanting to pay compensation.

[dave.woodhall]

Some things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.

As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.

Not sure that was Corinthian or less hassle policy. They would have done well to recall that our three most successful managers since Sir Ron  Taylor, Atkinson and Little were poached from other clubs.

Probably more to do with not wanting to pay compensation.

Or not, bearing in mind the next two appointments.

[saunders_heroes]

Some things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.

As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.

Not sure that was Corinthian or less hassle policy. They would have done well to recall that our three most successful managers since Sir Ron  Taylor, Atkinson and Little were poached from other clubs.

Probably more to do with not wanting to pay compensation.

Or not, bearing in mind the next two appointments.

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Still saved a bit of money though, and that's what it's all about since O'Neill walked.

[Clampy]

Doug was a lover of saving money more than anybody.

[saunders_heroes]

Doug was a lover of saving money more than anybody.

He was but this mess wasn't created by his austerity.

[cheltenhamlion]

Or its not. As Dave just demonstrated.

[dave.woodhall]

Some things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.

As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.

Not sure that was Corinthian or less hassle policy. They would have done well to recall that our three most successful managers since Sir Ron  Taylor, Atkinson and Little were poached from other clubs.

Probably more to do with not wanting to pay compensation.

Or not, bearing in mind the next two appointments.

'

Still saved a bit of money though, and that's what it's all about since O'Neill walked.

If that's what it's all about how come they didn't do it the next twice?

[Clampy]

Doug was a lover of saving money more than anybody.

He was but this mess wasn't created by his austerity.

No, he created his own mess, which was worse but you're right, this is not about him.

[saunders_heroes]

Doug was a lover of saving money more than anybody.

He was but this mess wasn't created by his austerity.

No, he created his own mess, which was worse but you're right, this is not about him.

Well we'll have to agree to disagree on this one because in my opinion nothing Ellis did to the Villa was as bad as what Lerner has done to us over the last 6 seasons.
This has been done to death, so why you're bringing up Ellis again is beyond me.

[dave.woodhall]

Doug was a lover of saving money more than anybody.

He was but this mess wasn't created by his austerity.

No, he created his own mess, which was worse but you're right, this is not about him.

Well we'll have to agree to disagree on this one because in my opinion nothing Ellis did to the Villa was as bad as what Lerner has done to us over the last 6 seasons.
This has been done to death, so why you're bringing up Ellis again is beyond me.

Probably to annoy you.

[saunders_heroes]

Some things get confused with when we took on Houllier. That was the first time you knew they were out of their depth.

As I recall when Houllier was appointed, I am sure General Krulak said something along the lines of deliberately not going after someone already in a job as that automatically made their loyalties and commitment to the cause suspect. An admirably Corinthian policy but not ideal for running a football club in the 21st Century.

Not sure that was Corinthian or less hassle policy. They would have done well to recall that our three most successful managers since Sir Ron  Taylor, Atkinson and Little were poached from other clubs.

Probably more to do with not wanting to pay compensation.

Or not, bearing in mind the next two appointments.

'

Still saved a bit of money though, and that's what it's all about since O'Neill walked.

If that's what it's all about how come they didn't do it the next twice?

I don't know, why don't you ask them? we've spent the last 6 years looking at ways to hack away at our spending though, unless you missed all that?

[saunders_heroes]

Doug was a lover of saving money more than anybody.

He was but this mess wasn't created by his austerity.

No, he created his own mess, which was worse but you're right, this is not about him.

Well we'll have to agree to disagree on this one because in my opinion nothing Ellis did to the Villa was as bad as what Lerner has done to us over the last 6 seasons.
This has been done to death, so why you're bringing up Ellis again is beyond me.

Probably to annoy you.

Well it hasn't. I love a good argument.