No one would care if we were 11th and Gabby had scored 9 in the league.
His best days are long over and he needs to move on to a League One/Two club if he wants to kick a ball around for a living.
I think they missed a trick not inviting Charlie. At least they could have had a good laugh at his clothes.
Quote from: Villa in Denmark on December 14, 2015, 12:36:43 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 14, 2015, 12:25:04 PMKeeping players past their best at the club isn't Gabby's fault. Oh, so there is more to it than just chucking bin bags full of £50 notes at it then?Look if you're happy to blame our humiliating 6 season decline on a few poor decisions and a bit of bad luck then who am I to argue.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 14, 2015, 12:25:04 PMKeeping players past their best at the club isn't Gabby's fault. Oh, so there is more to it than just chucking bin bags full of £50 notes at it then?
Keeping players past their best at the club isn't Gabby's fault.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 06, 2015, 11:00:32 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 06, 2015, 10:55:29 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 06, 2015, 10:50:13 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 06, 2015, 10:44:36 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 06, 2015, 10:43:39 PMAre we in debt to banks like Leeds were?We could well be, should our current owner not be our owner anymore.So you're saying that we should be thankful we still have a club irrespective of what league we're in and whatever humiliations he's inflicted onto us?Did I say that? But if your defence of Lerner not spending is along the lines of "we could become a Leeds" then I think I'm within my rights to reply. That excuse was churned out when Ellis was in charge, and fans thought nothing of calling for him to borrow money from banks to bankroll spending which actually could have resulted in a Leeds like shitfest. Lerner on the other hand is disgustingly rich, so what's so wrong in fans calling for him to spend some of his riches on the club in our hour of need?There's a world of difference between spending "in our hour of need" and carrying on regardless over the last 5 years.I've asked this now at least three times tonight and countless times over the last few months.I've asked you this before, but I'll try again.How much do you think Lerner should have continued to invest, bearing that the current tab is north of £250M?Background info before answering.Being as you assert that wages are the issue because we won't pay them, maybe take a few seconds to read this.For 2013-14 season we had the joint (with Everton) 9th highest wage billThat year Newcastle had the 7th highest, Southampton the 11th highest and Stoke the 16th highest.1. Abramovich, a man who's worth around 10 times Lerner's personal net worth, put the best part of £1 billion into Chelsea over a 10 year period before pretty much calling a halt. They still spend plenty "net" but it's almost all covered by CL and associated TV income.2. The Mansoors, who to all intents and purposes have limitless wealth, put the best part of £1.2 billion into Man City over a 5-6 year period before reigning in the chequebook. Again they spend plenty "net" but it's almost all covered by CL and associated TV income.3. "Enough" or similar isn't an answer. A number be it £1 or £10 billion or anywhere in between.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 06, 2015, 10:55:29 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 06, 2015, 10:50:13 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 06, 2015, 10:44:36 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 06, 2015, 10:43:39 PMAre we in debt to banks like Leeds were?We could well be, should our current owner not be our owner anymore.So you're saying that we should be thankful we still have a club irrespective of what league we're in and whatever humiliations he's inflicted onto us?Did I say that? But if your defence of Lerner not spending is along the lines of "we could become a Leeds" then I think I'm within my rights to reply. That excuse was churned out when Ellis was in charge, and fans thought nothing of calling for him to borrow money from banks to bankroll spending which actually could have resulted in a Leeds like shitfest. Lerner on the other hand is disgustingly rich, so what's so wrong in fans calling for him to spend some of his riches on the club in our hour of need?
Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 06, 2015, 10:50:13 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 06, 2015, 10:44:36 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 06, 2015, 10:43:39 PMAre we in debt to banks like Leeds were?We could well be, should our current owner not be our owner anymore.So you're saying that we should be thankful we still have a club irrespective of what league we're in and whatever humiliations he's inflicted onto us?Did I say that?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 06, 2015, 10:44:36 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 06, 2015, 10:43:39 PMAre we in debt to banks like Leeds were?We could well be, should our current owner not be our owner anymore.So you're saying that we should be thankful we still have a club irrespective of what league we're in and whatever humiliations he's inflicted onto us?
Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 06, 2015, 10:43:39 PMAre we in debt to banks like Leeds were?We could well be, should our current owner not be our owner anymore.
Are we in debt to banks like Leeds were?
I really hope so Chico, it would really give a boost to Charlie's fan club (me and Mr Underhill).