Quote from: Dave on December 14, 2015, 09:00:59 AMQuote from: steffo on December 14, 2015, 12:17:03 AMDo you think we have scouts watching other teams and watching other players?Why bother when we have Paddy and PROZONE doing a sound job from an office and saving us money?The way that it currently happens (at Villa and pretty much every club in the top four divisions) is we look at data to see which players are doing important things better than our current players. We then go and watch those players and decide who we should bid for.Are you suggesting that we skip the bit about "researching the player first" and just send scouts to matches around the world at random?That strikes me as a rather inefficient way of doing things. Nah, we should go back to the good days under MON.See who looked good on MOTD highlights and wave a contract 50% bigger than they were worth for at least 2 years longer than they'd be useful under their noses and call it job done.
Quote from: steffo on December 14, 2015, 12:17:03 AMDo you think we have scouts watching other teams and watching other players?Why bother when we have Paddy and PROZONE doing a sound job from an office and saving us money?The way that it currently happens (at Villa and pretty much every club in the top four divisions) is we look at data to see which players are doing important things better than our current players. We then go and watch those players and decide who we should bid for.Are you suggesting that we skip the bit about "researching the player first" and just send scouts to matches around the world at random?That strikes me as a rather inefficient way of doing things.
Do you think we have scouts watching other teams and watching other players?Why bother when we have Paddy and PROZONE doing a sound job from an office and saving us money?
Quote from: TheMalandro on December 13, 2015, 11:58:13 PMHis haircut really bothers meWhats underneath it is of some concern as well.
His haircut really bothers me
Paddy Reilly was hired by Fox, who was hired by Lerner, to: 1)spend less money on transfer fees, 2) on younger players with lower wages 3)who can be sold on at profit. He has been largely successful on points 1 and 2, and probably Traore, Grealish, Veretout, Ayew, Amavi will enable him to achieve point 3, so he will be here for a while yet. It's all about the money.
As much as we want to pick holes and focus blame, I think the quality of the squad is testament to the directive being sent down from above. Ultimately, I believe, the plan for the summer just gone was to spend the Benteke money on relatively cheap, unproven talent from abroad with the intention of getting lucky and finding the next Benteke to repeat the cycle and slowly progress up the league. maximum effort scouting, minimum net outlay, maximum profit to reinvest. To be fair, its is too early to judge, but who is to say that had we managed to secure 13th-14th place for the next couple of years, we wouldnt have been entertaining 30m bids for Amavi, Veretout or Traore? If you have an owner who no longer wants to invest then its a relatively sound plan in theory. The reasons for why it hasnt worked in practice are plentiful and not worth going into on this post but what I will say is the OP has negated his argument a little by the virtue that Benteke, Coutinho, Moreno, Sturridge (had he not been plagued by injury) and Can could probably turn enough profit alone to cover the outlay for the entire list.
A championship club will not get £7m for Traore who hasn't one anything in football yet. He didn't find Grealish. We wont get £7m for Veretout in the Championship. We won't get around £9m for Ayew in the Championship and we won't get anything for Amavi because he's injured.
The problem appears that no-one with football knowledge inside the club is convinced it is a good idea. Look at the team Kevin McDonald picked.Look at the likes of Allardyce and Pulis, they wouldn't work with the same conditions.It is a gamble that hasn't worked.
Quote from: aj2k77 on December 14, 2015, 10:38:49 AMA championship club will not get £7m for Traore who hasn't one anything in football yet. He didn't find Grealish. We wont get £7m for Veretout in the Championship. We won't get around £9m for Ayew in the Championship and we won't get anything for Amavi because he's injured.I agree that nobody would pay those fees. Which is good, because they will be the players who will get us back up.
Quote from: Dave on December 14, 2015, 10:45:50 AMQuote from: aj2k77 on December 14, 2015, 10:38:49 AMA championship club will not get £7m for Traore who hasn't one anything in football yet. He didn't find Grealish. We wont get £7m for Veretout in the Championship. We won't get around £9m for Ayew in the Championship and we won't get anything for Amavi because he's injured.I agree that nobody would pay those fees. Which is good, because they will be the players who will get us back up.I think the players that will get us back up aren't at the club yet. New goalkeeper, new centre back, new centre mid, new centre forward. An entire spine of a team for a spineless team.
There is no transfer committee. Infamous or otherwise.