Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters

[Toronto Villa]

LTA, I'm not engaging in a quotathon. He's complimented the supporters and repeatedly said the playing side hasn't been good enough. That isn't patronising. Randy being here or not isn't an issue. Have you noticed it is nearly 2016 and they can talk to or see Randy every day. It's not like he has to physically be at the club to influence or make decisions. What if actually does love the club and has just made a number of bad decisions? Does that make him not love it?

So doesn't he fly in? Why do they have to fly out?

He was at the club a few weeks ago just after Garde joined.

[bertlambshank]

I bet he went for a long lie down after coming all this way.Bless him.

[villadelph]

LTA, I'm not engaging in a quotathon. He's complimented the supporters and repeatedly said the playing side hasn't been good enough. That isn't patronising. Randy being here or not isn't an issue. Have you noticed it is nearly 2016 and they can talk to or see Randy every day. It's not like he has to physically be at the club to influence or make decisions. What if actually does love the club and has just made a number of bad decisions? Does that make him not love it?

Christ you don't really think he loves the club do you?

In truth I don't give a shit if he does or not. All I care about is that he does the right thing by it. I don't see that or his presence at the club as a topic worthy of discussion. All that matters is that he makes good decisions and over the past few years he hasn't made enough of them.

Is there a more invisible owner in the league?

It may be irrelevant but I would really like to see a side-by-side of matches attended, training ground appearances and player interaction.

There are some really crap owners throughout the football league that would kill to have our infrastructure and status. Comparatively you look at Mike Ashley, he might be a bit of a quack but at least he shows his face through the good and bad.

Randy has just irritated me so much over the last few years. I cannot wait to see the back of him. I don't buy anything he or his CEOs say any more. Wanting to completely rebuild the club and employing Tim Sherwood is an oxymoron.

Rant over. God, I hate this.

[Toronto Villa]

How visible is Sheik Mansoor or Joe Lewis?

[brian green]

Or alternatively how bad were we in the 50s when you could talk person to person with the Chairman any market day by simply walking up to his fish stall in the Bull Ring?

[ChicagoLion]

Or alternatively how bad were we in the 50s when you could talk person to person with the Chairman any market day by simply walking up to his fish stall in the Bull Ring?

I think that a pre requisite for success is that the owner has to give a shit, only after that can competance come into play.
See my comment on the RL thread he does not give a shit.

[brian green]

See also my comments on the same thread. Lerner bashing is not going to rewrite a single line of Aston Villa history. It is time to deal with the circumstances as they are, not how we would have liked them to be.

[ChicagoLion]

See also my comments on the same thread. Lerner bashing is not going to rewrite a single line of Aston Villa history. It is time to deal with the circumstances as they are, not how we would have liked them to be.

Either way, and regardless of how eloquent or clever we are in describing or debating this, it will not make the slightest difference.

[Toronto Villa]

Or alternatively how bad were we in the 50s when you could talk person to person with the Chairman any market day by simply walking up to his fish stall in the Bull Ring?

I think that a pre requisite for success is that the owner has to give a shit, only after that can competance come into play.
See my comment on the RL thread he does not give a shit.

If he didn't give a shit why did he reinvest the money we got for Benteke and Delph this summer? Surely if he didn't care he'd have just trousered it all to offset his losses.

[Clampy]

Or alternatively how bad were we in the 50s when you could talk person to person with the Chairman any market day by simply walking up to his fish stall in the Bull Ring?

I think that a pre requisite for success is that the owner has to give a shit, only after that can competance come into play.
See my comment on the RL thread he does not give a shit.

If he didn't give a shit why did he reinvest the money we got for Benteke and Delph this summer? Surely if he didn't care he'd have just trousered it all to offset his losses.

And if he didn't give a shit, he would have sold the club earlier this year when he had the chance.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Or alternatively how bad were we in the 50s when you could talk person to person with the Chairman any market day by simply walking up to his fish stall in the Bull Ring?

I think that a pre requisite for success is that the owner has to give a shit, only after that can competance come into play.
See my comment on the RL thread he does not give a shit.

If he didn't give a shit why did he reinvest the money we got for Benteke and Delph this summer? Surely if he didn't care he'd have just trousered it all to offset his losses.

And if he didn't give a shit, he would have sold the club earlier this year when he had the chance.

I'm glad that Randy does care so much about Villa. Imagine the shit we'd be in if he didn't......

[aj2k77]

Or alternatively how bad were we in the 50s when you could talk person to person with the Chairman any market day by simply walking up to his fish stall in the Bull Ring?

I think that a pre requisite for success is that the owner has to give a shit, only after that can competance come into play.
See my comment on the RL thread he does not give a shit.

If he didn't give a shit why did he reinvest the money we got for Benteke and Delph this summer? Surely if he didn't care he'd have just trousered it all to offset his losses.

Because he would have been 100% guaranteed to lose the £100m+ Premiership Tv rights if he did. Pocketing £40m to lose £100m is something not even that gorm is stupid enough to do.

As it was, he did the bare minimum, and that calculated gamble has spectacularly back fired in our faces with our mammoth 6 pts and certain relegation.

[saunders_heroes]

Or alternatively how bad were we in the 50s when you could talk person to person with the Chairman any market day by simply walking up to his fish stall in the Bull Ring?

I think that a pre requisite for success is that the owner has to give a shit, only after that can competance come into play.
See my comment on the RL thread he does not give a shit.

If he didn't give a shit why did he reinvest the money we got for Benteke and Delph this summer? Surely if he didn't care he'd have just trousered it all to offset his losses.

And if he didn't give a shit, he would have sold the club earlier this year when he had the chance.

If you think this is Randy caring for the club I'd hate to think of the state of the Villa when and if you'd ever claim he didn't give a flying shite about us.

[aj2k77]

Caring for something means putting time, energy, thought and enthusiasm in to it. I'm surprised there still are people who are naïve enough to think Randy Lerner cares about Aston Villa. He threw some money at it for a couple of years and then basically pulled out, a step up from some of the terrible mercenary owners English football has had but way below the owners that have actually cared for their clubs.

[AVH87]

Or alternatively how bad were we in the 50s when you could talk person to person with the Chairman any market day by simply walking up to his fish stall in the Bull Ring?

I think that a pre requisite for success is that the owner has to give a shit, only after that can competance come into play.
See my comment on the RL thread he does not give a shit.

If he didn't give a shit why did he reinvest the money we got for Benteke and Delph this summer? Surely if he didn't care he'd have just trousered it all to offset his losses.

Because he would have been 100% guaranteed to lose the £100m+ Premiership Tv rights if he did. Pocketing £40m to lose £100m is something not even that gorm is stupid enough to do.

As it was, he did the bare minimum, and that calculated gamble has spectacularly back fired in our faces with our mammoth 6 pts and certain relegation.

That made me laugh. Partly because I can actually imagine Lerner contemplating doing it for a brief moment.