Quote from: old man villa fan on December 13, 2015, 08:48:38 PMWatching the game today, it was clear to me that our underlying problem is the back 5. It is a main reason why the midfield and forward are not functioning. Things that stand out as massive problems with the back 5 are: uncertainty, indecision, and lack of composure which you can put down mainly to lack of confidence, then come the real problems ..... poor positioning, no communication, playing players into trouble with passes, poor passing, unable to clear the ball cleanly, poor/weak challenges, easily pushed off the ball, failure to play as a unit, leaving massive gaps and probably a few more as well. We are unable to effectively bring the ball out of defence and put ourselves in an attacking position.People give Hutton praise because they say he puts effort in but I do not think he does. His trotting back (if it actually reaches that pace) after the ball is lost up field is really annoying me. For the second goal he was in front of Gana when the play broke down. The question to me is why was he so far forward, he is a fullback leaving half the pitch exposed to the counter attack. When they broke and had 3 on 1 I looked for Hutton's position on the replay after Ramsey scored and Hutton had only just made it back into our half. Hutton is doing the easy stuff getting forward but is unwilling to do the hard work in getting back. I am getting fed up with his half-hearted attempts at tackling, preferring to use his upper body weight and arms rather get into a good position to tackle or hold up play. This to me is a symptomatic of a very lazy approach to the game. What does he actually do when he pushes forward, it usually leads to a poor cross or putting other player under pressure with a ball inside and a massive gap behind him. The guy is a poor player in my opinion and should not be in the side. I would much prefer to see a more defensive fullback and leave the attacking out wide to midfield players or forwards so that we are more cohesive at the back.I could go on in detail about the other defensive players but my general points above some it up. We desperately need to bring in new defenders to the club that can actually defend. Traditionally, that means a big lump in the centre that dominates the opposition forwards and a more ball playing player alongside and that's the way I think we should go. I think Okore could be that ball playing player when his confidence grows a bit. We then need two solid fullbacks and a goalkeeper that does not put the fear of God into the rest of the team, the fans and, I am sure, the manager.The positives to me today were again, Ayew for his non-stop running and covering and Veretout for always making himself available, picking out good passes and being a player at last that offers some threat from dead ball kicks.Absolutely spot on Old Man.
Watching the game today, it was clear to me that our underlying problem is the back 5. It is a main reason why the midfield and forward are not functioning. Things that stand out as massive problems with the back 5 are: uncertainty, indecision, and lack of composure which you can put down mainly to lack of confidence, then come the real problems ..... poor positioning, no communication, playing players into trouble with passes, poor passing, unable to clear the ball cleanly, poor/weak challenges, easily pushed off the ball, failure to play as a unit, leaving massive gaps and probably a few more as well. We are unable to effectively bring the ball out of defence and put ourselves in an attacking position.People give Hutton praise because they say he puts effort in but I do not think he does. His trotting back (if it actually reaches that pace) after the ball is lost up field is really annoying me. For the second goal he was in front of Gana when the play broke down. The question to me is why was he so far forward, he is a fullback leaving half the pitch exposed to the counter attack. When they broke and had 3 on 1 I looked for Hutton's position on the replay after Ramsey scored and Hutton had only just made it back into our half. Hutton is doing the easy stuff getting forward but is unwilling to do the hard work in getting back. I am getting fed up with his half-hearted attempts at tackling, preferring to use his upper body weight and arms rather get into a good position to tackle or hold up play. This to me is a symptomatic of a very lazy approach to the game. What does he actually do when he pushes forward, it usually leads to a poor cross or putting other player under pressure with a ball inside and a massive gap behind him. The guy is a poor player in my opinion and should not be in the side. I would much prefer to see a more defensive fullback and leave the attacking out wide to midfield players or forwards so that we are more cohesive at the back.I could go on in detail about the other defensive players but my general points above some it up. We desperately need to bring in new defenders to the club that can actually defend. Traditionally, that means a big lump in the centre that dominates the opposition forwards and a more ball playing player alongside and that's the way I think we should go. I think Okore could be that ball playing player when his confidence grows a bit. We then need two solid fullbacks and a goalkeeper that does not put the fear of God into the rest of the team, the fans and, I am sure, the manager.The positives to me today were again, Ayew for his non-stop running and covering and Veretout for always making himself available, picking out good passes and being a player at last that offers some threat from dead ball kicks.
Poor Goalkeeper, one of the 3 worst in the division.Poor defence, the worst in the division.Anonymous midfield, one of the worst in the division.No strikers worthy of the name, the worst in the division.That pretty much sums it up.
No doubt covered in another thread, but I think we now need to move on from who is at fault in this team and concentrate on who we should retain in next years Championship side.I think Guzan, Veretout and Okore should be ok but most should be cleared out.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on December 13, 2015, 05:34:56 PMQuote from: Clampy on December 13, 2015, 04:14:46 PMDidn't think we played that badly overall. If the ref doesn't change his mind about the pen, then we may well have gone in 0-0 at half time and who knows? I thought bringing on Grealish and leaving Traore until the last 5 minutes was a waste of time.In ClampyLand we won 3-2. In the real world we lost again and are heading out of the league.Ha!
Quote from: Clampy on December 13, 2015, 04:14:46 PMDidn't think we played that badly overall. If the ref doesn't change his mind about the pen, then we may well have gone in 0-0 at half time and who knows? I thought bringing on Grealish and leaving Traore until the last 5 minutes was a waste of time.In ClampyLand we won 3-2. In the real world we lost again and are heading out of the league.
Didn't think we played that badly overall. If the ref doesn't change his mind about the pen, then we may well have gone in 0-0 at half time and who knows? I thought bringing on Grealish and leaving Traore until the last 5 minutes was a waste of time.
Quote from: levico on December 13, 2015, 11:07:09 PMNo doubt covered in another thread, but I think we now need to move on from who is at fault in this team and concentrate on who we should retain in next years Championship side.I think Guzan, Veretout and Okore should be ok but most should be cleared out.I take no pleasure in criticising any Villa player, but (!) I'm not even sure Guzan is good enough for a decent Championship outfit now. Admittedly the defensive 'unit' in front of him are about as sturdy as cheese strings, but I definitely don't think he inspires any confidence either these days. A move to MLS beckons.
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