Aston Villa vs Arsenal Post-Match Thread

[ChicagoLion]

As supporters, the only real way you can protest in the situation we are in, is to stay away.  Lerner wants to sell but cannot find a buyer, we are told.  Staying away will affect the club through lost revenue, so that action would actually harm the club.

Lerner has to make a decision to break the status quo.  Does he invest £50m in player acquisitions or does he reduce the asking price by £50m as I think it is something of this magnitude that is required.  With the latter, he loses another £50m, with the former he is gambling on being able to make it back by enhancing the value of the club.

The current malaise is down to trying to maintain the status quo and at the same time, find a buyer.  Time stands still for nobody and the inaction is killing us.

I think your numbers are a little out, the difference in value between the Championship and Pl is enormous at least £100 million, probably a lot more.
I doubt there are any buyers above say £30 million when we are relegated.

[dave.woodhall]

Yes, really. There's no point in organising a protest that has no aim and there's less point in debating the issue.

[saunders_heroes]

I'll say it again, and for the final time. How do you want to protest and what do you want to get out of it?

This could go on for a long time, suffice to say it's all about being heard. I'm sure if this situation was replicated at Old Trafford, Anfield or the Emirates there would be some VERY high profile protests, as for getting anything out of it, that's debatable, but it's better than giving in, also "I'll say it again and for the final time" - really??...

Spot on. Imagine if a similar sized club like Spurs or Everton had suffered the last 6 seasons as we have, do you honestly think their fan base would be as placid as we've been?
Not chance in my opinion.

[Brend'Watkins]

This team isn't as bad as the 87 lot. We'll beat Newcastle and give us something of a chance.

[auntiesledd]

If you don't see the point of a protest against an owner who wants to sell a club that nobody wants to buy then you are a 'Lerner sycophant'?

At what stage is 'happy clapper' going to be mentioned?

Honestly! Folk will be 'screaming for a policeman' next...

[QuintonVilla]

I'll say it again, and for the final time. How do you want to protest and what do you want to get out of it?

This could go on for a long time, suffice to say it's all about being heard. I'm sure if this situation was replicated at Old Trafford, Anfield or the Emirates there would be some VERY high profile protests, as for getting anything out of it, that's debatable, but it's better than giving in, also "I'll say it again and for the final time" - really??...

Spot on. Imagine if a similar sized club like Spurs or Everton had suffered the last 6 seasons as we have, do you honestly think their fan base would be as placid as we've been?
Not chance in my opinion.

Spurs booed their team off today after losing for the first time since the opening day of the season. Shocking.

[Rudy65]

This team isn't as bad as the 87 lot. We'll beat Newcastle and give us something of a chance.

Tut tut. Drinking on a school night

[ChicagoLion]

Yes, really. There's no point in organising a protest that has no aim and there's less point in debating the issue.

Yep, as the alternative to what is happening now is that Lerner puts in more money.
He probably realises that it's a bit late for that now.

[saunders_heroes]

Didn't think we played that badly overall. If the ref doesn't change his mind about the pen, then we may well have gone in 0-0 at half time and who knows? I thought bringing on Grealish and leaving Traore until the last 5 minutes was a waste of time.

In ClampyLand we won 3-2. In the real world we lost again and are heading out of the league.

Ha!

[wittonwarrior]

Today  when the supporters have become resigned to relegation; no ifs and buts. 

People walking downstairs after 20 mins. 

Arsenal although helped by some liberal refereeing decisions, still took the piss and better finishing by  them  it could and should have finished by a rugby  score.

[Brend'Watkins]

This team isn't as bad as the 87 lot. We'll beat Newcastle and give us something of a chance.

Tut tut. Drinking on a school night

Drinking yes, school night, I wish.  There's enough of the makings of a half decent side amongst that lot. If, they could cut out the ridiculous errors. I thought Ayew, Okore and Gil were good for their part.

[Clampy]

Didn't think we played that badly overall. If the ref doesn't change his mind about the pen, then we may well have gone in 0-0 at half time and who knows? I thought bringing on Grealish and leaving Traore until the last 5 minutes was a waste of time.

In ClampyLand we won 3-2. In the real world we lost again and are heading out of the league.

Did I say we'd won?

[VillaAlways]

I'll say it again, and for the final time. How do you want to protest and what do you want to get out of it?

This could go on for a long time, suffice to say it's all about being heard. I'm sure if this situation was replicated at Old Trafford, Anfield or the Emirates there would be some VERY high profile protests, as for getting anything out of it, that's debatable, but it's better than giving in, also "I'll say it again and for the final time" - really??...

Spot on. Imagine if a similar sized club like Spurs or Everton had suffered the last 6 seasons as we have, do you honestly think their fan base would be as placid as we've been?
Not chance in my opinion.

Being shit has become the norm for us. The one thing the  club has been very good at is downgrading fans expectations to the point that many fans no longer believe we are a big club anymore

Lerner has been a complete and utter disaster and I feel things could get a lot worse.

[dave.woodhall]

Hundreds turned up to protest against McDoom's appointment. Thousands signed on line petitions objecting to the appointment.

I suspect Lerner will care not a jot for any protest. He wants out, we want him out.

Oh I agree. He doesn't give two fucks about the club, but as I said if fans want to protest for pride's sake then go ahead. Better than just sitting there and taking it on the chin without anpven the merest hint of protest.

Are you going to organise it, what with you being one of his biggest critics?

Okay I'll organise the anti Lerner protest and you can organise the Lerner sychophant defence brigade march.

There really is no need for that.

I was replying to a sarcastic post with a sarcastic retort.

Never mind what you thought you were replying to, please don't continue it.

[aj2k77]

Hutton, tries but he's shit. One of the worst right backs in the division, his positioning is terrible.
Bacuna, garbage, crap at all trades, offers nothing.
Gueye, really seems to have disappeared since the first few games, doesn't effect the game at all.
Sanchez, lazy liability, not up to scratch.
Sinclair, shite, anonymous, weak.
Gestede, rubbish, closes down defenders with a slow ambling jog. Doesn't link anything up, just a really shit all round game.

Ayew is having to drop too deep to get in to the game. Nice player though.

When 7 of your starting line up are awful awful players then you know the game is up and you are going down. There were no positives today, Arsenal are weakened and back from a midweek trip to Greece, we started slow, gave them a goal then disappeared and didn't compete for anything, didn't get in their faces, just sat back and watched them pass circles around us. Completely shit. Second half, if we'd have scored I've no doubt Arsenal would have stepped it up again and sorted us out. At times we played like a training game, no intensity, no desire, no will to win. The worst group of players I've ever seen at Villa Park a complete embarrassment of a team, Chairman and back room.

We need to start again, from the very very beginning. They are ruining the clubs reputation at the moment. We are being laughed at weekly.