Everton 4-0 Aston Embarrassing Villa post match thread

[kipeye]

View from the other side. That was my first game for a while and went with a load of Toffee supporters. For the record their verdict was: Crikey-you are worse than we thought, but better second half. Grealish looked a class act-yes they liked the look of him! No fight whatsoever. Teams that put us (Everton) under pressure will always score you didn't. Sunderland may have conceded 6 but put in a much better performance last game. People around me knew I was Villa and most felt sorry for me or just shook their heads. No gloaters, just sad looks from them. They were not even sure if they had played well!
I returned home not disappointed but feeling totally humiliated. It is desperate watching these days and no wonder I find it painful to attend.
I have said this before and please take this in the context it is meant: I would rather watch us in a lower division playing a proper two-sided game than this slow torture. No blame to anyone makes any difference, we just have to grin and bear it. Fans were still brilliant yesterday in an otherwise almost silent ground. I am not sure even the home fans enjoyed it.

[Tom_Mc9?]

Oh I don't know Kipeye. I'm sure I'd enjoy a good 4-0 battering over weak opposition.

[David_Nab]

Sanchez not starting had to be tiredness , were much better when he came on as he got stuck in and won balls.We were not only too light weight before but the midfield didn't hold the ball or support the attacking three.

I don't think our team or squad are worse than watfords for instance we are just mentally shot.The goals yesterday were all awful defending  the left side of defence was a shambles both Clark and Richardson were abysmal.

[Ads]

I thought Grealish was awful yesterday. He offered no cover to Richardson, who was targeted and routinely exposed by their Barca kid.

We started without any tempo, had no pace and therefore an outlet, so they were able to smother us and keep a high line and he result was a wretched 45 minutes.

Yes they played well, but Westwood was his typical joke self when it comes to picking up runners; a jet lagged Sanchez wouldn't have been bullied so easily, while Veretout gave the ball away a lot and Gana wasn't in it at all.

We set out to contain them, as we had done Man City and it failed. A point from Spurs, Everton and Man City is probably a point more than expected, but now comes a crucial game.

We have got to break this losing habit we've fallen into and give ourselves a chance.

[The Edge]

Villa are 5/2 not to be relegated. That is money in the bank as far as I'm concerned.
We will turn it round.

Are you on something?

It's called being optimistic. No problem with that at all.

Well I am always optimistic about the Villa but even I have to admit this is the worst Villa team in 18 years of the premier league. The main problem I see is not lack of ability but lack of fight. Eg: 2.0 down yesterday and ball goes out for a throw in to us. Their player walks away shielding the ball to stop us taking a quick throw in. Our players just stand and watch him. The fans were going ballistic. A small thing I know but indicative of the state of mind of our current crop of players. That's why I  questioned  if the previous poster was on something.

yep. How did they go from the man city performance to such a gutless display? They are looking resigned to the drop which is unacceptable. We are typified by richards - a busy fool who somehow has made captain

I  said that during the game yesterday. They look like a team who have resigned themselves to their fate. THAT  is the thing that is really bothering me.

[Tom_Mc9?]

As an aside, I have to give credit to Brian Little who found a positive in every dire circumstance yesterday.

[The Edge]

As an aside, I have to give credit to Brian Little who found a positive in every dire circumstance yesterday.

That's because Sir Brian Little is a Villa legend. And he can walk on water.
 

[Chris Smith]

Villa are 5/2 not to be relegated. That is money in the bank as far as I'm concerned.
We will turn it round.

Are you on something?

It's called being optimistic. No problem with that at all.

Well I am always optimistic about the Villa but even I have to admit this is the worst Villa team in 18 years of the premier league. The main problem I see is not lack of ability but lack of fight. Eg: 2.0 down yesterday and ball goes out for a throw in to us. Their player walks away shielding the ball to stop us taking a quick throw in. Our players just stand and watch him. The fans were going ballistic. A small thing I know but indicative of the state of mind of our current crop of players. That's why I  questioned  if the previous poster was on something.

yep. How did they go from the man city performance to such a gutless display? They are looking resigned to the drop which is unacceptable. We are typified by richards - a busy fool who somehow has made captain

I  said that during the game yesterday. They look like a team who have resigned themselves to their fate. THAT  is the thing that is really bothering me.

Confidence is so important in football. Ours is so fragile that it cannot take the slightest hit without crumbling. That is the biggest job Remi has on his hands if we are going to give ourselves any chance of getting out of this situation.

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

Out of interest, who would you be spending big on in January to guarantee us safety?

I'd have to think about it, but Michy Batshuayi would be near the top of my list.

Batshuayi?  Marseille want £35m for him, apparently.  I haven't seen anything in Randy Lerner's recent behaviour that suggests he might allow a signing like that.

Marseille might want £35m, but they won't get it. They sold their best player in the summer for £15m, they need the money. If we offered them £20m, they'd rip our arm off.

It's gonna take more than that though. We need to sign a few players who can instantly improve us, not ones who might be good enough in a year or two.

[The Edge]

Villa are 5/2 not to be relegated. That is money in the bank as far as I'm concerned.
We will turn it round.

Are you on something?

It's called being optimistic. No problem with that at all.

Well I am always optimistic about the Villa but even I have to admit this is the worst Villa team in 18 years of the premier league. The main problem I see is not lack of ability but lack of fight. Eg: 2.0 down yesterday and ball goes out for a throw in to us. Their player walks away shielding the ball to stop us taking a quick throw in. Our players just stand and watch him. The fans were going ballistic. A small thing I know but indicative of the state of mind of our current crop of players. That's why I  questioned  if the previous poster was on something.

yep. How did they go from the man city performance to such a gutless display? They are looking resigned to the drop which is unacceptable. We are typified by richards - a busy fool who somehow has made captain

I  said that during the game yesterday. They look like a team who have resigned themselves to their fate. THAT  is the thing that is really bothering me.

Confidence is so important in football. Ours is so fragile that it cannot take the slightest hit without crumbling. That is the biggest job Remi has on his hands if we are going to give ourselves any chance of getting out of this situation.
Spot on.

[Billy Walker]

The other crucial thing is that the Club shows some leadership and galvanizes the support.  A huge part of Leicester's fightback last year stemmed from the atmosphere they started to generate at home games.  I'm not saying we go the whole hog and issue supporters with plastic clapper things but we need to do something that shrugs off the apathy, draws a line in the sand and gets us all focused and up for it.  It's all about belief and direction.

I'd be writing this suggestion and sending it to our head of media/PR if I knew who on earth it was these days.

[Walmley_Villa]

We need goals and don't have many if any in our locker, that is something I don't think Remi can resolve. Leicester had strikers and we don't. The lack of a Plan B for Adebayor is imo one of them main reasons we are where we are.

[Cropley10]

Agree the next game is now absolutely crucial!
Maybe Randy does have a pot of cash to spend in January, but if we don't have say...15 points by then, we'll be buying players to get out of the Championship rather than to stay up.

[Des Little]

Every game is crucial. Pity the team don't realise the fact. Yesterday's surrender spoke volumes for me. This mob are only going one way right now.

[The Edge]

The other crucial thing is that the Club shows some leadership and galvanizes the support.  A huge part of Leicester's fightback last year stemmed from the atmosphere they started to generate at home games.  I'm not saying we go the whole hog and issue supporters with plastic clapper things but we need to do something that shrugs off the apathy, draws a line in the sand and gets us all focused and up for it.  It's all about belief and direction.

I'd be writing this suggestion and sending it to our head of media/PR if I knew who on earth it was these days.

The club is totally at fault here. The clampdown on Brigada is crazy. Brigada
was formed to bring back the atmosphere at the Holte and what does the club do? Get heavy handed with the police and stewards throwing them out!!! Then the club refuses to take up the offer of extra away allocation just in case they don't sell them all!! Someone needs to sort it out down at Villa Park. And thats just a couple in a long line of bad decisions taken by the people in charge of OUR football club.