Everton 4-0 Aston Embarrassing Villa post match thread

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Liverpool's win today shows precisely what confidence can do. They have been steadily improving overall since Klopp arrived and that includes a recent home defeat to Palace. Today is enormous for them.

Difference is they have Milner and Coutinho where we have Westwood and Agbonlahor. It's not all about confidence, we need to spend big in January.

It's not all about confidence, but it is a big factor.  Look at Leicester; look at their line-up today, on paper it's as exciting as a mug of Horlicks.  Vardy's freakish form notwithstanding that's as mediocre a bunch of players as you'll ever see, yet they're top of the league and on a phenomenal run.  That's confidence that is.  See how we crumble under pressure?  That's confidence too, or more precisely a lack of it.  Winning can become a habit, just as losing every game can.  If we can just scrape a win from somewhere we may see a transformation.  Out of interest, who would you be spending big on in January to guarantee us safety? 

[Axl Rose]

Liverpool's win today shows precisely what confidence can do. They have been steadily improving overall since Klopp arrived and that includes a recent home defeat to Palace. Today is enormous for them.

Difference is they have Milner and Coutinho where we have Westwood and Agbonlahor. It's not all about confidence, we need to spend big in January.

Unsurprisingly you've just named their best two and our worst two.

But to be fair, he could name any random two from our team. They're all pretty bad, currently.

[Axl Rose]

Is Adama that bad? Not even on the bench! I'd like to see Okore back - he wasn't on the bench either. Richardson and Westwood are rubbish. Why was Sanchez dropped?

I echo your thoughts, sir.

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

Out of interest, who would you be spending big on in January to guarantee us safety?

I'd have to think about it, but Michy Batshuayi would be near the top of my list.

[Des Little]

Not read the thread and don't need to. Utter, utter shit from minute one. We are only going one way. Rubbish.

[Pat McMahon]

Throw in a season ending injury, players returning from all over the place, and then a trip to a side that has been on good form and strong at home. It wasn't always going to end this way, but there was a good chance of this happening.

TV , the commentator on MOTD said they had won 1 in 5 - hardly good form. They played well but we helped them.

At the moment we smell worse than the team of 1987.

[Pat McMahon]

Liverpool's win today shows precisely what confidence can do. They have been steadily improving overall since Klopp arrived and that includes a recent home defeat to Palace. Today is enormous for them.

Difference is they have Milner and Coutinho where we have Westwood and Agbonlahor. It's not all about confidence, we need to spend big in January.

Unsurprisingly you've just named their best two and our worst two.

But to be fair, he could name any random two from our team. They're all pretty bad, currently.

Agreed Nick.  And he omitted Benteke from their good players.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Out of interest, who would you be spending big on in January to guarantee us safety?

I'd have to think about it, but Michy Batshuayi would be near the top of my list.

Batshuayi?  Marseille want £35m for him, apparently.  I haven't seen anything in Randy Lerner's recent behaviour that suggests he might allow a signing like that.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Out of interest, who would you be spending big on in January to guarantee us safety?

I'd have to think about it, but Michy Batshuayi would be near the top of my list.

Batshuayi?  Marseille want £35m for him, apparently.  I haven't seen anything in Randy Lerner's recent behaviour that suggests he might allow a signing like that.

Not even £24m for Bent? Not that I think we'll spend £35m on a striker but I don't believe budget will be a problem in January.

[KRS]

Having watched the highlights on MOTD and Match Choice, todays bad result was very much a reflection of a piss poor performance. The disciplined shape, formation and hard work we saw against Man City was lost today with players caught out of position, losing possession cheaply and no shape to the team. It was a fuckin mess from front to back.

When I saw the lineup before kickoff I actually had a double take and recount the players as I couldn't see any forward line...I literally saw 6 midfielders that could may be capable of creating a chance for someone, but that someone wasn't on the pitch. I didn't bother following the game other than checking the score at half and full time.

We're in the shit and I think Garde has a massive job on his hands. He's probably realising that we haven't got a decent squad, and should be already identifying who needs replacing and bringing in during the January transfer window...if not, then he should be and he needs to tell Lerner and Fox what we need to get us out of this fuck up.

Personally I think there is no spine to the team, so we need a goalkeeper, 2x central defenders, 2x central midfielders and a recognised centre forward...the players we have now are (hopefully) good enough to fill the places around the spine (we also need a new LB and RB but that would be just greedy or even more unrealistic). This needs serious financial investment...without it, we are down.

[rougegorge]

Liverpool's win today shows precisely what confidence can do. They have been steadily improving overall since Klopp arrived and that includes a recent home defeat to Palace. Today is enormous for them.

Difference is they have Milner and Coutinho where we have Westwood and Agbonlahor. It's not all about confidence, we need to spend big in January.

Unsurprisingly you've just named their best two and our worst two.

But to be fair, he could name any random two from our team. They're all pretty bad, currently.

Yes this is the worst team I've ever seen.
Worse than 87. It's no good kidding ourselves the players are good enough to stay up and that teams like Newcastle. Sunderland and Bournemouth are so poor that we'll overtake them. We are the team with the poorest set of players.

[JD]

It's win or bust next week for me! Watford are no mugs and will come full of confidence and almost expecting to win.

If we fail to win the game I think we are doomed as the other teams won't keep losing! We have lost no ground today but it won't keep happening

I have absolutely no idea what team or how but we have to find a way to win

The players owe the club a performance and if next week they don't for me it shows they simply aren't good enough or care enough

Totally agree. If we don't win next week I see no way out of our predicament. At least my Everton supporting mate only said Villa were better in the second half and left it at that.

Spineless rubbish.   

[David_Nab]

Throw in a season ending injury, players returning from all over the place, and then a trip to a side that has been on good form and strong at home. It wasn't always going to end this way, but there was a good chance of this happening.

TV , the commentator on MOTD said they had won 1 in 5 - hardly good form. They played well but we helped them.

At the moment we smell worse than the team of 1987.

Yes but that one win was the last game where they won 6-2 ..they started slow but Lukaku /Barkley and Deulofeu are now in fantastic form and we could'nt deal with them.

I agree with the comments on Leicester , on paper they are nothing special but they have such momentum now its carrying them on , us we have been a shambles since Soton destroyed us , add in the FA cup disaster and losing Delph/Benteke and we have had the stuffing kicked out of us.We recruited well IMO but those players have come into a team with no confidence and they have had to try and find form and have struggled.

When Amavi got injured I knew it was a massive blow and today highlighted that , not only do we miss him the issue is multiplied by just how poor Richardson is as his replacement.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Out of interest, who would you be spending big on in January to guarantee us safety?

I'd have to think about it, but Michy Batshuayi would be near the top of my list.

Batshuayi?  Marseille want £35m for him, apparently.  I haven't seen anything in Randy Lerner's recent behaviour that suggests he might allow a signing like that.

Not even £24m for Bent? Not that I think we'll spend £35m on a striker but I don't believe budget will be a problem in January.

Bent was years ago, Bent was an absolute blip, even in Randy's non-stinge era Bent was a big old splurge.  I hope you're right about the January budget, but if we have as much as £35m to throw around I hope we don't blow it all on one striker. Best hope is that Garde gets more out of this squad and then has a few quid to supplement it with two or three solid performers.

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

If you fill your team with championship standard players there is only one place you'll end up. Garde needs to grind out some result and then come January replace pretty much all of them. Problem is, who would come to Villa in January when you're bottom of the league?