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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 942712 times)

Offline ROBBO

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7005 on: May 03, 2017, 09:19:31 AM »
I would like to know what if any guarantees were given to Garde regarding money for players, surely he would not have taken the job if he was told there would be no money made available. He took the job at the exact time when Lerner decided to pull up the drawbridge, no manager no matter how good could have got Villa out of the mess that Lerner had created.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7006 on: May 03, 2017, 09:43:57 AM »
I think the club just assumed he'd massively improve our French speaking players. Amavi did his ligaments a week after Remi took over but I did think he'd make us better in midfield and get Gana and Veretout up to the standard they're playing this season.

You're right there, no way on earth he'd have turned up without a promise of spending in January. We were talking about Loic Remy at the start of that window IIRC.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7007 on: May 03, 2017, 11:33:24 AM »
The biggest problem Garde had was that we had no functioning attack.  The only proper striker at the club, in my opinion was a broken Kozak.  We had a little run when he was available the results were better (still relegation battle but not completely out of touch).  Gestede just isn't good enough for that level, Gabby couldn't be arsed and Despite being the best of the lot Ayew was a wide forward not a striker.  Enough money to get a proper front man and I think we'd have still gone down but with 10-15 more points and with something to build on and Garde would've still been here when the takeover happened.

He's the 1 manager we've had that I genuinely feel sorry for all the others have made their own mess to add to the rest.  To be honest I'd probably take him back this summer.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7008 on: May 03, 2017, 12:24:08 PM »
I have no ill will towards Garde. He had the worst of the impossible job at Villa. In a parallel universe where Lerner had properly supported him, Villa might have played their way out of trouble. The club was too broken for him to single-handedly turn around.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7009 on: May 03, 2017, 12:34:46 PM »
I have no ill will towards Garde. He had the worst of the impossible job at Villa. In a parallel universe where Lerner had properly supported him, Villa might have played their way out of trouble. The club was too broken for him to single-handedly turn around.

Agree with this, but I wouldn't want him back

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7010 on: May 03, 2017, 12:42:42 PM »
I have no ill will towards Garde. He had the worst of the impossible job at Villa. In a parallel universe where Lerner had properly supported him, Villa might have played their way out of trouble. The club was too broken for him to single-handedly turn around.

Agree with this, but I wouldn't want him back

Yeah agreed. I think his name is tainted for many supporters now. The still thing is, and no disrespect to Bruce but Garde is the sort of manager we need now. Someone to instil a footballing philosophy at Villa, play a certain way, technique, coaching, tactics, etc. He might not have been capable of any of that, but I think that's what we were hoping for.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7011 on: May 03, 2017, 01:14:33 PM »
Could say the same about Eric black yet he gets lambasted

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7012 on: May 03, 2017, 01:24:07 PM »
I don't think he had a chance of doing anything in the short term last season - we were effectively down when he joined. 

Having said that he never offered any glimpse of the abilities needed to be a candidate for the longer term -  and on that basis it seems unwise to highlight his Villa experiences when touting for a job.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7013 on: May 03, 2017, 01:41:47 PM »
I have no ill will towards Garde. He had the worst of the impossible job at Villa. In a parallel universe where Lerner had properly supported him, Villa might have played their way out of trouble. The club was too broken for him to single-handedly turn around.

Agree with this, but I wouldn't want him back

I would over Steve "Tactics "Bruce

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7014 on: May 03, 2017, 01:44:06 PM »
He was a rabbit between headlights. Okay we lost our way with sherwood but he had a game play. Garde to me took us down totally out of depth

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7015 on: May 03, 2017, 01:56:24 PM »
The biggest problem Garde had was that we had no functioning attack.  The only proper striker at the club, in my opinion was a broken Kozak.  We had a little run when he was available the results were better (still relegation battle but not completely out of touch).  Gestede just isn't good enough for that level, Gabby couldn't be arsed and Despite being the best of the lot Ayew was a wide forward not a striker.  Enough money to get a proper front man and I think we'd have still gone down but with 10-15 more points and with something to build on and Garde would've still been here when the takeover happened.

He's the 1 manager we've had that I genuinely feel sorry for all the others have made their own mess to add to the rest.  To be honest I'd probably take him back this summer.

There was a hell of a lot more wrong last season than no functioning attack, our best player was one who had signed as a centre forward. None of the countless issues were the fault of Garde though, and if he was a little meek to deal with the situation more effectively I blame those that employed him. I too feel sorry for him and I think he could still have a decent management career but I wouldn't have him back all the same.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7016 on: May 03, 2017, 02:37:32 PM »
The biggest problem Garde had was that we had no functioning attack.  The only proper striker at the club, in my opinion was a broken Kozak.  We had a little run when he was available the results were better (still relegation battle but not completely out of touch).  Gestede just isn't good enough for that level, Gabby couldn't be arsed and Despite being the best of the lot Ayew was a wide forward not a striker.  Enough money to get a proper front man and I think we'd have still gone down but with 10-15 more points and with something to build on and Garde would've still been here when the takeover happened.

He's the 1 manager we've had that I genuinely feel sorry for all the others have made their own mess to add to the rest.  To be honest I'd probably take him back this summer.

There was a hell of a lot more wrong last season than no functioning attack, our best player was one who had signed as a centre forward. None of the countless issues were the fault of Garde though, and if he was a little meek to deal with the situation more effectively I blame those that employed him. I too feel sorry for him and I think he could still have a decent management career but I wouldn't have him back all the same.

There were other problems but the insurmountable one was the fact that we had no one to hold up play and no movement in the box.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7017 on: May 03, 2017, 03:04:36 PM »
I have no ill will towards Garde. He had the worst of the impossible job at Villa. In a parallel universe where Lerner had properly supported him, Villa might have played their way out of trouble. The club was too broken for him to single-handedly turn around.

Agree with this, but I wouldn't want him back

I would over Steve "Tactics "Bruce

Ha ha :D

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7018 on: May 03, 2017, 03:16:57 PM »
He was a rabbit between headlights. Okay we lost our way with sherwood but he had a game play. Garde to me took us down totally out of depth

Did he? At the start of last season the formation seemed to be picked by throwing darts at a board and the team selected via a tombola.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7019 on: May 03, 2017, 03:19:56 PM »
Nice fella, completely out of his depth though. My highlight of his tenure was when we went to Wycombe and were sitting right behind the dugout - where we had a great view of Guzan and Lescott pissing about on the bench and Richards arguing with our fans. PatMcMahon's French mate came with us and every couple of minutes he would hurl some abuse towards Garde in perfect French. Childish, I know, but more fun than watching us limp towards a draw against a park team.

 


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