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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 943124 times)

Offline brian green

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #6990 on: April 28, 2016, 05:15:19 AM »
The problem was never Remi Garde the problem was Aston Villa FC.

Not a single signing when you are staring relegation in the face?  It speaks for itself.

As for points, how many have Sherwood and Black notched up?

Remi Garde, and thank you for allowing me to defend him, was not a hapless appointment, he was an appointment to a hapless club.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #6991 on: April 28, 2016, 06:45:42 AM »
The problem was never Remi Garde the problem was Aston Villa FC.

Not a single signing when you are staring relegation in the face?  It speaks for itself.

As for points, how many have Sherwood and Black notched up?

Remi Garde, and thank you for allowing me to defend him, was not a hapless appointment, he was an appointment to a hapless club.

An important distinction, which I happen to agree with.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #6992 on: April 28, 2016, 06:51:40 AM »
Me too, completely.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #6993 on: April 28, 2016, 07:11:16 AM »
I should have added that Sherwood had the whole summer and all the Benteke and Delph money to build a fit-for-purpose team.  He brought in, though he later denied any part in it and threw them under the bus, Crespo, Amavi, Bunn, Gueye, Veretout, Traore, Illori, Gestede, Ayew, Lescott and Richards.  Sherwood being more interested in staying onside with his bestie mates in the media and putting alibis in place rather than forging a fit, united team last July and August is what made what we are now experiencing inevitable, not Remi Garde being shit.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #6994 on: April 28, 2016, 07:33:25 AM »
It was not Garde's fault but, with the benefit of hindsight, he was the wrong man for the task in hand. A more experienced, battle-hardened man might have had more chance of dealing with the dissolute influences within the squad.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #6995 on: April 28, 2016, 07:38:18 AM »
The good thing that came out of Remi's time at the club was the bringing out into the open the issues behind the scenes with players and the Club itself, something that past managers since Houllier have failed to do.  It has caused a meltdown but has opened everyone's eyes to the issues that need addressing and gives us a base to start from in rebuilding the Club.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #6996 on: April 28, 2016, 07:51:26 AM »
It is tempting to agree with what you say Chris but I have very serious doubts whether any manager, let alone an available one could have rescued us.  If we had been closer to the other relegation threatened teams and if the old war horse we might have brought in had been allowed to buy reinforcements there would have been a chance but neither of those conditions applied.

Since Christmas we have been in self inflicted turmoil.  No use of the transfer window, the sacking of Fox and Almstadt, the suspension of Agbonlahor, a very disappointing set of accounts, the resignation of two eminent men from the board, the sacking of Remi Garde, the refusal of players to play, the growing problem of protracted uncertainty about a sale of the club and the knock on that has on manager appointment.  There is every sign that it will all drag on at snail's pace into the summer.

I think my Villa instincts are pretty much tuned in when I feel that 2016/17 will be a scramble for the play offs.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #6997 on: April 28, 2016, 08:24:53 AM »
Cant argue with much of that Brian. Sadly :(


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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #6998 on: April 28, 2016, 08:27:30 AM »
[quote author=brian green link=topic=54969.msg3066665#msg3066665 date=1461826286
I think my Villa instincts are pretty much tuned in when I feel that 2016/17 will be a scramble for the play offs.
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At the moment I would take that gladly Brian!

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #6999 on: April 28, 2016, 08:58:17 AM »
It is tempting to agree with what you say Chris but I have very serious doubts whether any manager, let alone an available one could have rescued us.  If we had been closer to the other relegation threatened teams and if the old war horse we might have brought in had been allowed to buy reinforcements there would have been a chance but neither of those conditions applied.

Since Christmas we have been in self inflicted turmoil.  No use of the transfer window, the sacking of Fox and Almstadt, the suspension of Agbonlahor, a very disappointing set of accounts, the resignation of two eminent men from the board, the sacking of Remi Garde, the refusal of players to play, the growing problem of protracted uncertainty about a sale of the club and the knock on that has on manager appointment.  There is every sign that it will all drag on at snail's pace into the summer.

I think my Villa instincts are pretty much tuned in when I feel that 2016/17 will be a scramble for the play offs.
That is the most relevant point - If Garde was brought into a club where things were in a good state off the field (Everton are probably a good example of this), then yes, blame him wholeheartedly. But as he said, he had no idea just how much of a mess villa were in behind the scenes (or words to that effect). We were and are the perfect storm, a mess from top to bottom and negativity is running through the club like a plague. Despite that, there were glimpses of positive things coming through on the pitch. Garde's only chance of saving us from the drop was for us to pull out all of the stops to bring in  his backroom team and hand him 15-18m in January to bring in a couple of really good signings. Bolster that with 3-4 good 6 month loan deals and we certainly would still be in the mix for survival, I have no doubt.

sadly, If im honest though I think the way things have panned out will be better for the club in the long run...

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7000 on: May 02, 2017, 10:56:19 PM »
Remi Garde on his Aston Villa regrets

Villa still holds a place in Garde's heart

19:40, 2 MAY 2017Updated19:51, 2 MAY 2017
Remi Garde would be "very happy" to see Aston Villa back in the big time - and still regrets not having the opportunity to win promotion himself.

Villa were bottom of the top flight when the Frenchman was appointed as Tim Sherwood's successor in November 2015.

Garde was unable to improve the club's fortunes and eventually left by mutual consent in March last year, just four months into a three-and-a-half year deal.

The 41-year-old looks back on his testing tenure with regret, but still has nothing but love for the club.

"I would have liked that this period lasted longer than it did, but that’s football life," he told the Guardian.

"I respect this club – especially the fans who were really supportive.

"I would be very happy to see Aston Villa once again in the Premier League."

Despite enduring a turbulent few months at Villa Park, Garde would dearly love another job in English football and a second chance to prove his managerial worth.

"Now I am only thinking about coming back one day in this country to work again and show I can be a manager here," he said.

Garde spent three years as a player at Arsenal in the late 1990s and recently returned to his old stomping ground to take in a Gunners match.

His former coach Arsene Wenger is under increasing pressure from fans to walk away this summer after 20 years at the club.

And Garde, who now lives back in his home town of Lyon, admits he is saddened by the censure.

"He is an unbelievable guy," Garde said.

"It is difficult for me to imagine the end. I don’t know when that will be.

"I can say only he inspired me, the way I manage, the way I behave in life as well.

"I am sad to read the criticism of him and the bad words, because he committed the last 20 years to the club he loves so much."

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7001 on: May 02, 2017, 11:42:39 PM »
Weird as I was randomly thinking the other day for some reason if Garde had come out and said anything about his time here? 13 months on from his departure so guess the confidentially clauses are disappearing.

I wish him no ill, just thought he came in at the completely wrong time (would've been better coming in at the time we appointed Lambert or even maybe when Sherwood turned up but when have we ever appointed managers in a logical order?)

Surprised he wanted to stay on and win promotion as it seemed he just gave up when the board failed to back him in that January window.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7002 on: May 03, 2017, 08:01:28 AM »
I am a big fan of Remi Garde but the one huge hole he put in the bottom of his own boat was to start to clean out the dressing room of its poisonousness then to do a U turn.  I expected better of him.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7003 on: May 03, 2017, 08:52:47 AM »
I am a big fan of Remi Garde but the one huge hole he put in the bottom of his own boat was to start to clean out the dressing room of its poisonousness then to do a U turn.  I expected better of him.
I am not sure what options he had.

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Re: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa
« Reply #7004 on: May 03, 2017, 09:13:47 AM »
I am a big fan of Remi Garde but the one huge hole he put in the bottom of his own boat was to start to clean out the dressing room of its poisonousness then to do a U turn.  I expected better of him.
I am not sure what options he had.
The total lack of transfers in January was the final nail, both for him and any lingering hopes of survival. It backed him into playing the very players he'd identified as wanting rid of.

 


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