Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[UK Redsox]

I'm sure that 'The Raping Parasites" were the original support band on the current 'African Car Reverser' tour.

[Clampy]

I'm not heartless but treated shamefully? Treated disgustingly?
I'm sorry it's just over the top sentimental Shite.
He has been an unmitigated disaster.
Incapable of any enthusiasm for the job, yeah he realised Gabby was crap, I saw that from L8 7 years ago.
Some fans fell in love with the French name and thought how beautiful this was going to be.
In reality the man has been crap, the charisma of a dead badger.
Yet another parasite raping our club, he can do one and take David Ginolas mum with him.

Well it get's my vote for idiotic post of the year so far anyway.

[joe_c]

I'm sure that 'The Raping Parasites" were the original support band on the current 'African Car Reverser' tour.

I remember seeing them as I sipped a pint of Hoppo's Frothing Overreaction.

[chrisw1]

interesting that Mike Ashley has just come out and said the Toon don't have a pot to piss in and he ain't stumping up any more tin. Could be interesting with them next season

I'll never advocate our abject surrender in January, but this is the over side of the coin we could have been looking at.  If they go down they are well and truly fucked.

[Tony Erdington]

interesting that Mike Ashley has just come out and said the Toon don't have a pot to piss in and he ain't stumping up any more tin. Could be interesting with them next season

I'll never advocate our abject surrender in January, but this is the over side of the coin we could have been looking at.  If they go down they are well and truly fucked.

Agreed Newcastle are going down with us.

[chrisw1]

I'm not heartless but treated shamefully? Treated disgustingly?
I'm sorry it's just over the top sentimental Shite.
He has been an unmitigated disaster.
Incapable of any enthusiasm for the job, yeah he realised Gabby was crap, I saw that from L8 7 years ago.
Some fans fell in love with the French name and thought how beautiful this was going to be.
In reality the man has been crap, the charisma of a dead badger.
Yet another parasite raping our club, he can do one and take David Ginolas mum with him.

Well it get's my vote for idiotic post of the year so far anyway.

That may be a decent shout, but this one just a few posts before surely has to take the biscuit?

Reading this thread, though I admit that there are large gaps in my reading of it, I have noticed a correlation between contributors' ability to express themselves clearly in writing and their views on whether or not Remi Garde deserves to be sacked. Generally those with the best levels of written expression are more sympathetic to his situation whereas those for whom written English seems more of a challenge want him gone. Is there an element of inverted snobbery in evidence here?

[Toronto Villa]

While it was clearly difficult, part of walking into any management position in any industry is working with the employees that you have at your disposal and getting the most out of them. Over time you evaluate and observe so you make well thought out changes. What's disappointed me about Garde is that he very quickly drew a line in the sand and while some of things he said we all agreed with,  given the circumstances it was counter productive. His job was to use what he had to bridge a 5 point gap. That it has become 12 points and certain relegation is in part down to how he has handled the situation.

[paul_e]

While it was clearly difficult, part of walking into any management position in any industry is working with the employees that you have at your disposal and getting the most out of them. Over time you evaluate and observe so you make well thought out changes. What's disappointed me about Garde is that he very quickly drew a line in the sand and while some of things he said we all agreed with,  given the circumstances it was counter productive. His job was to use what he had to bridge a 5 point gap. That it has become 12 points and certain relegation is in part down to how he has handled the situation.

The difference is though if you can see glaring gaps in your staffing in any other industry you advertise to fill those roles and if you have staff that don't fit you can always move them on.  Transfer windows and fixed term contracts mean that those options aren't available in football so the turn around from failing as badly as we were isn't so easy.

My issue with sacking him is that if we do that we either replace him with another manager in the same mold who will have the same problems or we go with someone like Pearson or Bruce. I personally can't support that because I think it would be a backwards step and would leave us struggling as a bit of a yoyo side for years.  I therefore want someone like Garde to try to change the ethos of the club and help us create an identity.  Getting someone to come in and do that when we gave the last guy 5 months is going to be very tough so I want us to keep Garde for now.  That said I hope that if he does stay (which seems unlikely) he starts picking a side for the future because there's no point worrying about relegation now we should be concentrating on getting back up.

[KevinGage]

Totally agree TV.

He made a very difficult job virtually impossible.

Thing is, I think quite a few Villa fans would have accepted going down this season, from the position we were in in November. Not embraced it, just being realistic after the start we had.

But we haven't even made a fight of it, and part of that has to be on Remi.  More responsibility rests with our shitbag players though.  For that reason, it's only fair that if Remi loses his job, they get the guillotine.

[PeterWithesShin]

I've said before that I like Garde and I think a number of our players are total wasters. However it is a fact that Garde has been crap. Not all his own fault for sure (who read that in Brian Little's voice?) but he has been very well paid to ultimately delivery very little. I wouldn't be fussed if he stayed, likewise I won't be fussed if he is sacked.

[rob_bridge]

Probably the first manager since BFR where I don't believe his time is yet up.

Although in hindsight I was wrong about BFR with an ageing unmotivated squad.

Plus if we give the previous 3 utter muppets £2m for clearing off then Garde can rightfully claim the same loot.

[Villa in Denmark]

While it was clearly difficult, part of walking into any management position in any industry is working with the employees that you have at your disposal and getting the most out of them. Over time you evaluate and observe so you make well thought out changes. What's disappointed me about Garde is that he very quickly drew a line in the sand and while some of things he said we all agreed with,  given the circumstances it was counter productive. His job was to use what he had to bridge a 5 point gap. That it has become 12 points and certain relegation is in part down to how he has handled the situation.

It might be another case of fading memory, but I don't remember that being his first line of defence.  We'd gone through the almost euphoric period of 5 points in 4 games through January and a perception that Wycombe away had been our nadir, only to reach 2nd February with no new signings. That was where I recall the wheels coming off spectacularly.

It was almost as if he'd run out of tricks to get them bothered after the lack of threat about being replaced had gone. It almost feels like a good old fashioned work to rule, where they're doing the bare minimum to not get sacked.
Turn up for training as per contact? Tick.
Carry out drills as per coaches instructions? Tick.
Turn up on match day? Tick.
Play where required by manager? Tick.
Put some effort in and look like I give at least half a f##k? Is that in my contract? No? Bollocks to that then.

[LeeB]

I'm not heartless but treated shamefully? Treated disgustingly?
I'm sorry it's just over the top sentimental Shite.
He has been an unmitigated disaster.
Incapable of any enthusiasm for the job, yeah he realised Gabby was crap, I saw that from L8 7 years ago.
Some fans fell in love with the French name and thought how beautiful this was going to be.
In reality the man has been crap, the charisma of a dead badger.
Yet another parasite raping our club, he can do one and take David Ginolas mum with him.

Well it get's my vote for idiotic post of the year so far anyway.

That may be a decent shout, but this one just a few posts before surely has to take the biscuit?

Reading this thread, though I admit that there are large gaps in my reading of it, I have noticed a correlation between contributors' ability to express themselves clearly in writing and their views on whether or not Remi Garde deserves to be sacked. Generally those with the best levels of written expression are more sympathetic to his situation whereas those for whom written English seems more of a challenge want him gone. Is there an element of inverted snobbery in evidence here?

I doubt it, I've thought the same myself.

[LeeB]

Unless you factor in my idiocy of course, in which case you may have a point

[Ron Manager]

I think he may be staying as it appears he is still in the job this afternoon. Perhaps the major players on the board sense it would not look good if they were to dispense with his services when he hasn't had a fair crack of the whip. I would have agreed with this until a few weeks ago. I do not now. He looks totally defeated on the sidelines (as Lambert did) and despite doing his best has failed to improve the team one iota.