Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[oswald funkletrumpet]

He hasn't even had all the coaching staff he wanted.

Oh Poor guy.

13% win rate.

Don't concern yourself with the other points. Out of interest though with the exact same squad, just so we're comparing like with like, what was Sherwood's win rate in the league this season? Or points per game rate?

sherwood played 10 won 1 gd -11
garde played 20 won 2 gd -25

So his win ratio is the same then. How about points per game?

sherwood 0.4
garde 0.8

[McGraths Dry Cleaning]

He hasn't even had all the coaching staff he wanted.

Oh Poor guy.

13% win rate.

Don't concern yourself with the other points. Out of interest though with the exact same squad, just so we're comparing like with like, what was Sherwood's win rate in the league this season? Or points per game rate?

sherwood played 10 won 1 gd -11
garde played 20 won 2 gd -25

So his win ratio is the same then. How about points per game?

sherwood 0.4
garde 0.8

Fuck all doubled is still fuck all

Changing managers is pointless until the manager can be in a position to drop players who aren't performing or who are causing trouble in the dressing room. From team selections it appears there is limited opportunity to do this so there is little leverage in terms of motivation of the players. We get rid of another manager who can't change the team much then were back to square one and it strengthens the hold of the malcontents. I've worked places where a couple of people can massively influence the rest of the group and until you can get rid its hard to draw a line and move on.

If hes to be sacked it should be when we are relegated and a new manager can be brought in to play the kids in a no risk situation and look to build in the Championship with a transfer window. Trouble makers can be dropped or offered the chance to work in a new set up.

[Dante Lavelli]

I said after he'd arrived and got the players fit that his target was 24 points for the season (this was 1 point per game at that point).  If he hits that target then I think he deserves the opportunity next season, if not then we start the search again... albeit I did expect the board to try and buy/sell a few players in January.

[Clampy]

It wouldn't surprise me if some kind of announcement is made in the next couple of days. I know it's being reported in some of the tabloids but they do seem to be getting on with things.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

sorry sherwood 4 points from 10 games 0.4
garde 12 points from 20 so 0.6

[mr underhill]

we're arguing over who's the tallest dwarf

[pbavfckuwait]

We can't just keep him because
(a) It is going to cost us to get rid
(b) The list of options is full of the likes of Mad Percy, Bruce etc.

Garde in some ways came out of left field, he was not a name mentioned by any of us I should imagine, the same for the next guy, but something has to give and by that I mean a statement, stating the obvious,
  "This has been a shit season and although we did not give funds out in January as we believed the position to be lost even then, rightly or WRONGLY, Remi will be our manager for the 2016/2017 season, funds will be given from any sales generated plus a undeclared amount, we have had detailed discussion as to how we want to take Aston Villa forward and believe with the right backing Remi is in the best position to do this".

Or "By mutual consent Remi Garde has left Aston Villa with immediate effect"

One may come when we re down mathematically, the other one may come tomorrow.

[sickbeggar]

we're arguing over who's the tallest dwarf

Heh. Quite.

[PaulWinch again]

I think what the last few years have showed us is that the main problem is that the squad has been getting worse and worse year on year, both in terms of ability and attitude. I genuinely think it makes no odds who is put in charge until the actual problem is addressed. We all know what will happen a new manager will come in and then within 4 months of poor results there will be comments like, 'I know the squad is bad but they're  not this bad' ignoring the fact that actually they are that bad. Until that particular pattern is broken we'll never move on.

[sickbeggar]

I don't think he wants to be here truthfully. He certainly doesn't give the impression he does and while wild optimists are predicting he'll get the money to bring in his players, its more likely most of his targets are out of the club's budget now, or frankly don't want to move to the Championship. My guess is he will see out the season and then be quietly dismissed with a pay-off. If you're gonna have a clean break then its makes sense to bring in the new manager in the summer

[Dante Lavelli]

I get that impression too sick beggar, I think we, well the board and players have broken him.

If that is the case we should be using this period to discretely sound out possible replacements; aiming high and then working down the list.  If we get as low as people like Pearson then the gameplay might be better to see whether Garde's enthusiasm for the club can be reignited.

[in exile]

I'm feeling thoroughly down this morning.
Not because we lost again, that Guzan messed up massively again, that Gestede was poor again etc etc, but because the story of Garde is to be sacked and replaced with McDonald until the end of the season seems to be gaining momentum

[Ian.]

By all accounts (pure speculation) I don't see Remi here after this weekend which I think is a real shame. Under different circumstances it might have worked. To arrive when he did with the squad divided and all the unrest behind the scenes it was mission impossible. Maybe after the clear out of the boardroom and if the trouble makers behind the scenes were not here he might have stood a chance.

I really don't want KMac in charge again, surely we can find someone else to see us through?

What a bloody mess. I hope this new look board look further afield than Pearson, Pullis and Bruce and interview lots of candidates and not just the first man who rocks up here wanting the job.

Whoever comes in I hope they have the power to turf out the likes of Richards and Gabby. We need a new strong spine from the off and a harmonious squad otherwise this rot will continue whoever is in charge.

[myf]

I'm feeling thoroughly down this morning.
Not because we lost again, that Guzan messed up massively again, that Gestede was poor again etc etc, but because the story of Garde is to be sacked and replaced with McDonald until the end of the season seems to be gaining momentum

That Kmac game against spurs seems like yesterday when garde turned up late and sat in stands with Fox. What an absolute waste of time and money his appointment has been

[Lastfootstamper]

I'm feeling thoroughly down this morning.
Not because we lost again, that Guzan messed up massively again, that Gestede was poor again etc etc, but because the story of Garde is to be sacked and replaced with McDonald until the end of the season seems to be gaining momentum

Even for us, this would represent a whole new level of utter pointlessness.