Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[b23]

He has to go.

Worst Villa Manager ever.

Ridiculous statement, if Garde had the same squad as last season and had the same results I would agree but the fact is that the three best players from last season were sold and replaced with very average footballers. Sherwood was sacked because he had the same squad and couldn't win games either I don't care who we took on as manager the result would have been the same because we have the worst Villa squad I can ever remember.

I'm waiting for your response too.

You answered your own question - mitigating circumstances, to a pretty extreme degree. That doesn't necessarily mean he's any good either, but it makes any assessment pretty much impossible.

Are you a Garde fan ?

I don't see why it matters. For the record, I'd prefer if he stayed, but I wouldn't give a toss if he left providing we hired someone sensible in his place.

Anyway, the burden of proof's really on you if you're going to make such a severe claim. I think we've agree that he's inherited a squad with no players capable of leading the line, an ineffective midfield, a leaky defence, and two sub-par goalkeepers, and then been given no money to improve on any of it. Even the best managers would have struggled to get something out of them.

13% win rate.

Which Villa Manager has stats worse than that ?

[West Derby Villan]

I too think Garde is an honourable, decent man, who took the opportunity offered to him to manage a PL club. He was then given no support by his employers and also some of the players seemed to rally against him. Under those circumstances I think most managers would suffer poor results. I do think that he is now out of his depth and will be sacked, or resign, at the end of the season.

[PaulWinch again]

He has to go.

Worst Villa Manager ever.

Ridiculous statement, if Garde had the same squad as last season and had the same results I would agree but the fact is that the three best players from last season were sold and replaced with very average footballers. Sherwood was sacked because he had the same squad and couldn't win games either I don't care who we took on as manager the result would have been the same because we have the worst Villa squad I can ever remember.

I'm waiting for your response too.

You answered your own question - mitigating circumstances, to a pretty extreme degree. That doesn't necessarily mean he's any good either, but it makes any assessment pretty much impossible.

Are you a Garde fan ?

I don't see why it matters. For the record, I'd prefer if he stayed, but I wouldn't give a toss if he left providing we hired someone sensible in his place.

Anyway, the burden of proof's really on you if you're going to make such a severe claim. I think we've agree that he's inherited a squad with no players capable of leading the line, an ineffective midfield, a leaky defence, and two sub-par goalkeepers, and then been given no money to improve on any of it. Even the best managers would have struggled to get something out of them.

13% win rate.

Which Villa Manager has stats worse than that ?

Who's had a worse squad? Stats are arbitrary. No ones saying he's done well, but anyone who is unaware of just how bad our squad is is either deluded or willfully ignorant.

[Matt C]

Growing media consensus he'll be off this week. Shame - definitely not the root of the problem but it's becoming difficult to envisage he's part of the solution.

[Toronto Villa]

Growing media consensus he'll be off this week. Shame - definitely not the root of the problem but it's becoming difficult to envisage he's part of the solution.

Unfortunately Matt he's been drowned by it all and has become part of the problem. I think the club will ditch the wanker players in the summer. There's no way some of this lot are getting away with it, but Garde isn't helping matters at all now, and 6 straight defeats is the final nail in the coffin it appears.

[PaulWinch again]

Sorry where's this media consensus being reported?

[Toronto Villa]

Sorry where's this media consensus being reported?

Stan appears pretty convinced by it and he's pretty connected. Not saying it's 100% or anything but with the international break it won't be a shock either.

[b23]

He has to go.

Worst Villa Manager ever.

Ridiculous statement, if Garde had the same squad as last season and had the same results I would agree but the fact is that the three best players from last season were sold and replaced with very average footballers. Sherwood was sacked because he had the same squad and couldn't win games either I don't care who we took on as manager the result would have been the same because we have the worst Villa squad I can ever remember.

I'm waiting for your response too.

You answered your own question - mitigating circumstances, to a pretty extreme degree. That doesn't necessarily mean he's any good either, but it makes any assessment pretty much impossible.

Are you a Garde fan ?

I don't see why it matters. For the record, I'd prefer if he stayed, but I wouldn't give a toss if he left providing we hired someone sensible in his place.

Anyway, the burden of proof's really on you if you're going to make such a severe claim. I think we've agree that he's inherited a squad with no players capable of leading the line, an ineffective midfield, a leaky defence, and two sub-par goalkeepers, and then been given no money to improve on any of it. Even the best managers would have struggled to get something out of them.

13% win rate.

Which Villa Manager has stats worse than that ?

Who's had a worse squad? Stats are arbitrary. No ones saying he's done well, but anyone who is unaware of just how bad our squad is is either deluded or willfully ignorant.

In Premier League history ?

Derby and Sunderland.

Stats are arbitrary ?


 

[PaulWinch again]

Of course they are, because in football you're fully reliant on your players and the club's strategy. I think we can all agree the squad is atrocious, the worst collective to represent Villa, and it's clear Garde has been working under a failed and then a changing management structure. What results can you honestly expect in those circumstances? He hasn't even had all the coaching staff he wanted.

[villan from luton]

I feel sorry for the bloke as he has come in to a pile of shit. However I think he needs to go. As Gary Mccalister said go for Mellberg, lets be honest would he put up with same team and same shit

[tomd2103]

Growing media consensus he'll be off this week. Shame - definitely not the root of the problem but it's becoming difficult to envisage he's part of the solution.

Unfortunately Matt he's been drowned by it all and has become part of the problem. I think the club will ditch the wanker players in the summer. There's no way some of this lot are getting away with it, but Garde isn't helping matters at all now, and 6 straight defeats is the final nail in the coffin it appears.

Agree.  I like the guy and at another time, I think he could have done well with us.  He's the kind of manager who needs to go in somewhere where the basics are already in place and he's got something to build on.  I just think things have gone too far now and there is no other option really. 

[b23]

He hasn't even had all the coaching staff he wanted.

Oh Poor guy.

13% win rate.

[Matt C]

Growing media consensus he'll be off this week. Shame - definitely not the root of the problem but it's becoming difficult to envisage he's part of the solution.

Unfortunately Matt he's been drowned by it all and has become part of the problem. I think the club will ditch the wanker players in the summer. There's no way some of this lot are getting away with it, but Garde isn't helping matters at all now, and 6 straight defeats is the final nail in the coffin it appears.

Agree.  I like the guy and at another time, I think he could have done well with us.  He's the kind of manager who needs to go in somewhere where the basics are already in place and he's got something to build on.  I just think things have gone too far now and there is no other option really.

That's where I am now too. He's got too much baggage to allow us to do the major reboot we need.

[Matt C]

Growing media consensus he'll be off this week. Shame - definitely not the root of the problem but it's becoming difficult to envisage he's part of the solution.

Unfortunately Matt he's been drowned by it all and has become part of the problem. I think the club will ditch the wanker players in the summer. There's no way some of this lot are getting away with it, but Garde isn't helping matters at all now, and 6 straight defeats is the final nail in the coffin it appears.

Agree.  I like the guy and at another time, I think he could have done well with us.  He's the kind of manager who needs to go in somewhere where the basics are already in place and he's got something to build on.  I just think things have gone too far now and there is no other option really.

That's where I am now too. He's got too much baggage to allow us to do the major reboot we need.

[Matt C]

Growing media consensus he'll be off this week. Shame - definitely not the root of the problem but it's becoming difficult to envisage he's part of the solution.

Unfortunately Matt he's been drowned by it all and has become part of the problem. I think the club will ditch the wanker players in the summer. There's no way some of this lot are getting away with it, but Garde isn't helping matters at all now, and 6 straight defeats is the final nail in the coffin it appears.

Agree.  I like the guy and at another time, I think he could have done well with us.  He's the kind of manager who needs to go in somewhere where the basics are already in place and he's got something to build on.  I just think things have gone too far now and there is no other option really.

That's where I am now too. He's got too much baggage to allow us to do the major reboot we need.