Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

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I can't see why you'd bother sacking him now.

[peter w]

Ahh, why not? Everything else has been fucked up and mind-bogglingly bizarre this season.

[DB]

Now would be a good time to lose him. We are down, get someone* in who can assess the squad and get ready for the summer to get players in etc. Or sounding candidates out

*'someone' is the magic ingredient here

[JUAN PABLO]

13%win rate , probably is the worse. his players or not , its bad.

[exiled on the wirral!]

His approach to management is to tell everybody they're shit and sit around looking glum.

That's just being French.

Xenophobic bullshit.

Or humour. Definitely one of the two

UKIP have some great jokes about the frogs.

I very much doubt UKIP have anything funny to say.

[b23]

I can't see why you'd bother sacking him now.

Like Fox ?

Like Almstadt ?

Like the Playstation guy [/hopefully]

Garde has to go.

[KevinGage]

I just think back to that Everton away game and I felt then he wouldn't be able to get the reaction we required.

After the start to the season we had when we gobbed it in a succession of supposedly easier fixtures, we needed to pull out an unexpected win or two to get our season back on track.

Not that I was expecting us to just go up there and roll them over. Even when we had a good side, you couldn't bank on that. But I had expected a bit of fire, players proving they were up for it and busting to impress a new manager.

What we got was a limp-wristed surrender as dismal as anything Houllier or McLeish served up, just sitting off them and playing the game at testimonial pace. Everton got 4 but they could have had as many as they wanted that afternoon. There have been too many performances like that with Garde in charge, even if the scoreline hasn't always been as emphatic as that afternoon.

Accepting there are some rotters and malcontents in the side (as is true in most workplaces)not all of this is on Garde, But he didn't get enough of the squad onside early enough in his tenure to make a difference.

[b23]

He has to go.

Worst Villa Manager ever.

Trumpesque in its credibility.

I'm waiting for your response.

[b23]

He has to go.

Worst Villa Manager ever.

Ridiculous statement, if Garde had the same squad as last season and had the same results I would agree but the fact is that the three best players from last season were sold and replaced with very average footballers. Sherwood was sacked because he had the same squad and couldn't win games either I don't care who we took on as manager the result would have been the same because we have the worst Villa squad I can ever remember.

I'm waiting for your response too.

[passitsideways]

He has to go.

Worst Villa Manager ever.

Ridiculous statement, if Garde had the same squad as last season and had the same results I would agree but the fact is that the three best players from last season were sold and replaced with very average footballers. Sherwood was sacked because he had the same squad and couldn't win games either I don't care who we took on as manager the result would have been the same because we have the worst Villa squad I can ever remember.

I'm waiting for your response too.

You answered your own question - mitigating circumstances, to a pretty extreme degree. That doesn't necessarily mean he's any good either, but it makes any assessment pretty much impossible.

[b23]

He has to go.

Worst Villa Manager ever.

Ridiculous statement, if Garde had the same squad as last season and had the same results I would agree but the fact is that the three best players from last season were sold and replaced with very average footballers. Sherwood was sacked because he had the same squad and couldn't win games either I don't care who we took on as manager the result would have been the same because we have the worst Villa squad I can ever remember.

I'm waiting for your response too.

You answered your own question - mitigating circumstances, to a pretty extreme degree. That doesn't necessarily mean he's any good either, but it makes any assessment pretty much impossible.

Are you a Garde fan ?

[PaulWinch again]

He has to go.

Worst Villa Manager ever.

Ridiculous statement, if Garde had the same squad as last season and had the same results I would agree but the fact is that the three best players from last season were sold and replaced with very average footballers. Sherwood was sacked because he had the same squad and couldn't win games either I don't care who we took on as manager the result would have been the same because we have the worst Villa squad I can ever remember.

I'm waiting for your response too.

You answered your own question - mitigating circumstances, to a pretty extreme degree. That doesn't necessarily mean he's any good either, but it makes any assessment pretty much impossible.

Agreed. What people seem to ignore is that with a few tweaks here and there these players have failed under several managers now. Most of them are just utterly rubbish and I genuinely believe you could chuck any manager in here and we'd bomb. I don't know if Garde can suceed, but to write him off before he's been able to sign any players is too soon.

[passitsideways]

He has to go.

Worst Villa Manager ever.

Ridiculous statement, if Garde had the same squad as last season and had the same results I would agree but the fact is that the three best players from last season were sold and replaced with very average footballers. Sherwood was sacked because he had the same squad and couldn't win games either I don't care who we took on as manager the result would have been the same because we have the worst Villa squad I can ever remember.

I'm waiting for your response too.

You answered your own question - mitigating circumstances, to a pretty extreme degree. That doesn't necessarily mean he's any good either, but it makes any assessment pretty much impossible.

Are you a Garde fan ?

I don't see why it matters. For the record, I'd prefer if he stayed, but I wouldn't give a toss if he left providing we hired someone sensible in his place.

Anyway, the burden of proof's really on you if you're going to make such a severe claim. I think we've agree that he's inherited a squad with no players capable of leading the line, an ineffective midfield, a leaky defence, and two sub-par goalkeepers, and then been given no money to improve on any of it. Even the best managers would have struggled to get something out of them.

[PaulWinch again]

He has to go.

Worst Villa Manager ever.

Ridiculous statement, if Garde had the same squad as last season and had the same results I would agree but the fact is that the three best players from last season were sold and replaced with very average footballers. Sherwood was sacked because he had the same squad and couldn't win games either I don't care who we took on as manager the result would have been the same because we have the worst Villa squad I can ever remember.

I'm waiting for your response too.

Looks like he's given you a response to me.

[Toronto Villa]

If Garde is going then it's just an admission that he's exhausted by it all. The life has simply been sucked out of him and he just looks massively fucked off. I don't blame him at all, and it wouldn't have been a shock to see him pull out a bottle of something strong when the goal went in today. I honestly believe the board wanted him to be the manager next year but given that we have two months to go, with everything else changing we may as well consider changing the manager now. A lot of good things are happening behind the scenes but this is obviously going to get worse than better. With Norwich winning and opening a 12 point gap (13 points if you consider the GD) then it's absolutely inevitable we are gone.