Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[brian green]

I said nothing about splashing cash. It is a matter of investment of resources.  The doomsday scenario which has become so popular in these threads is predicated on the assumption that there is no money for players.  Justification for that assumption is that we spent nothing in January so the coffers are empty. My view is that a positive decision was made in January that we were as good as down and funds could achieve more spent in the summer.  Very hard for any Villa fan, me included, to take but a hard nosed and sound business strategy nonetheless.
If Garde can be persuaded to stay he will have the money he was denied in January.  If the money comes up short Randy Lerner will be approached and a case put to him, probably by Mervyn King, banker to banker.  That is not splashing the cash, it is good business.

[Steve67]

Brian, I also think they decided not to spend because the wages are way too high and need to be brought under control. We might just see a one in, one out policy in the summer. Richardson, CNZ both gone, saving over 100k a week will help too I guess.

[sickbeggar]

I said nothing about splashing cash. It is a matter of investment of resources.  The doomsday scenario which has become so popular in these threads is predicated on the assumption that there is no money for players.  Justification for that assumption is that we spent nothing in January so the coffers are empty. My view is that a positive decision was made in January that we were as good as down and funds could achieve more spent in the summer.  Very hard for any Villa fan, me included, to take but a hard nosed and sound business strategy nonetheless.
If Garde can be persuaded to stay he will have the money he was denied in January.  If the money comes up short Randy Lerner will be approached and a case put to him, probably by Mervyn King, banker to banker.  That is not splashing the cash, it is good business.

well i agree with the January decision really even if they screwed Garde royally doing it. Personally though i don't think King would agree with letting the club spend 20m on new players whilst turning down bids for the existing better players with the financial mess we're in.. If Garde stays I think he will get what he can generate from sales and maybe a small amount  from the parachute payment on top. Any further spending will be dependant on where we are in the league next January and whether a final bit of investment could get us promoted

[PaulWinch again]

Brian, I also think they decided not to spend because the wages are way too high and need to be brought under control. We might just see a one in, one out policy in the summer. Richardson, CNZ both gone, saving over 100k a year will help too I guess.

If we estimate N'Zogbia's wage at £65,000(shudder) then that puts Richardson on about £35,000 a week. I just can't see that.

[supertom]

Brian, I also think they decided not to spend because the wages are way too high and need to be brought under control. We might just see a one in, one out policy in the summer. Richardson, CNZ both gone, saving over 100k a year will help too I guess.

If we estimate N'Zogbia's wage at £65,000(shudder) then that puts Richardson on about £35,000 a week. I just can't see that.

Rico was reported as being on 25k a week, the same as Senderos and Joe Cole. Whether that's true of course is another matter. We'll still save a hefty chunk. Richards will definitely have to go, as will Gabby if at all possible. We can't justify paying anyone over 50k a week next season. In an ideal situation we'll lose all the high earners and have no one sitting on our books raking it in for nothing.

[brian green]

We are closer to consensus now.  The example plucked from the air was keep Ayew plus £20 million.  I did not say keep Gil and Traore and Amavi and that tripe hound Richards and Veretout plus £20 million.  There will be horse trading. That is only to be expected but funds will be forthcoming.  Neither King nor Bernstein would have agreed to serve on the board to watch Hollis count beans.

If it was my call I would do all our selling in January when you can shift all kinds of crap to desperate clubs for silly money.

[sickbeggar]

Their main aim i would presume would be to reduce the size of the squad. I can't see them sanctioning say 5 new faces if there's still 30 odd professionals at the club, and not ones on cheap wages at that

[Risso]

I said nothing about splashing cash. It is a matter of investment of resources.  The doomsday scenario which has become so popular in these threads is predicated on the assumption that there is no money for players.  Justification for that assumption is that we spent nothing in January so the coffers are empty. My view is that a positive decision was made in January that we were as good as down and funds could achieve more spent in the summer.  Very hard for any Villa fan, me included, to take but a hard nosed and sound business strategy nonetheless.
If Garde can be persuaded to stay he will have the money he was denied in January.  If the money comes up short Randy Lerner will be approached and a case put to him, probably by Mervyn King, banker to banker.  That is not splashing the cash, it is good business.

Sound business strategy my absolute arse. It's abandonment and neglect by any barometer you care to use.

[SheffieldVillain]

Their main aim i would presume would be to reduce the size of the squad. I can't see them sanctioning say 5 new faces if there's still 30 odd professionals at the club, and not ones on cheap wages at that

And there would be nothing wrong with that. Richardson and N'Zogbia are out of contract anyway, so that's two gone who contribute nothing and take home around £80k per week combined.

[sickbeggar]

Their main aim i would presume would be to reduce the size of the squad. I can't see them sanctioning say 5 new faces if there's still 30 odd professionals at the club, and not ones on cheap wages at that

And there would be nothing wrong with that. Richardson and N'Zogbia are out of contract anyway, so that's two gone who contribute nothing and take home around £80k combined.

Still a big ask. I make it 29 professionals with those two gone, not including the youngsters. You'd want another 9 or 10 of them gone to if you were getting 5 new players in

[supertom]

Their main aim i would presume would be to reduce the size of the squad. I can't see them sanctioning say 5 new faces if there's still 30 odd professionals at the club, and not ones on cheap wages at that

And there would be nothing wrong with that. Richardson and N'Zogbia are out of contract anyway, so that's two gone who contribute nothing and take home around £80k per week combined.

Those two are the only two big earners out of contract in May. We've then got Guzan, Lescott, Hutton, Kozak, Okore and Bunn going into their last years and I'd be looking to sell all but Okore if possible.
Shockingly Westwood appears to be hear until the end of time. 

[Steve67]

9 or 10 gone is quite feasible I guess. That said, it's even more churn when many are saying that stability is needed. What Remi needs to understand, if he stays, is that there is no way we will get rid of all of the crap attitude players. He WILL be stuck with one or two of them. I mean, who in their right mind would want Bacuna? We also have some of the loanees coming back too. 

[ozzjim]

His reluctance to pay some of the kids is annoying. 

[themossman]

As someone has probably already said in here, I think he's the precise managerial equivalent of our French players. Talented, will no doubt go onto do well at a more successful club post-villa, but exactly what we didn't need this season.

[sickbeggar]

His reluctance to pay some of the kids is annoying.

yep missed opportunity. We have nothing left to play for which is the idea time to blood them. No expectations and we may just find a few who could could flourish next season given the opportunity. They really can't do any worse than the 4 and 6-0 hidings we've seen from the seniors.