Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Whiney MacWhineface]

did anyone want mcneill to stay?

garde is worse whats the difference?

i am genuinely surprised at the goodwill afforded to a manger who is making a shit team even shitter. if things are bad now then next season will be even harder.

You keep saying this, but your simplistic argument takes no account of the relative strengths of the squads. The one McNeill inherits was far stronger than the current one which is frankly a bit of a camel.

[oldtimernow]

come on that's not fair, Camels are useful...

[Legion]

They're bad for your health.

[oldtimernow]

only if they spit

[Whiney MacWhineface]

come on that's not fair, Camels are useful...

Not when your committee was aiming for a horse!

[Chico Hamilton III]

did anyone want mcneill to stay?

garde is worse whats the difference?

i am genuinely surprised at the goodwill afforded to a manger who is making a shit team even shitter. if things are bad now then next season will be even harder.

You keep saying this, but your simplistic argument takes no account of the relative strengths of the squads. The one McNeill inherits was far stronger than the current one which is frankly a bit of a camel.

It is a shit squad, everyone can see that, but I reckon any manager could get 2 wins out of 18 games with that bunch. Law of averages would dictate that we won't lose all 38 league games. Morale, effort, hope, expectation and commitment all seem to have plummeted since Garde took over though, which is what really worries me. He hasn't  improved anything, which is fair enough given the shit he's had to face, but actually making us a worse team is the reason I think he should go.

[PaulWinch again]

But he hasn't made us worse though, under Garde we have been no worse than we were under Sherwood.

[Chico Hamilton III]

But he hasn't made us worse though, under Garde we have been no worse than we were under Sherwood.

If that's what you think, fine, but at best you're saying that he's as bad as Sherwood? Reason enough to bin him off

[walsall villain]

I feel sure he will go as he hasn't got much out of this squad the majority of which we will be stuck with next year. The players are the least affected by all this unfortunately but that's football today.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

did anyone want mcneill to stay?

garde is worse whats the difference?

i am genuinely surprised at the goodwill afforded to a manger who is making a shit team even shitter. if things are bad now then next season will be even harder.

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You keep saying this, but your simplistic argument takes no account of the relative strengths of the squads. The one McNeill inherits was far stronger than the current one which is frankly a bit of a camel.

It is a shit squad, everyone can see that, but I reckon any manager could get 2 wins out of 18 games with that bunch. Law of averages would dictate that we won't lose all 38 league games. Morale, effort, hope, expectation and commitment all seem to have plummeted since Garde took over though, which is what really worries me. He hasn't  improved anything, which is fair enough given the shit he's had to face, but actually making us a worse team is the reason I think he should go.

I can see that, and I'm extremely disappointed Garde hasn't done better, but you miss my point regarding what McNeill and Garde had dealt to them, and therefore the validity of funkeltrumpet's specious argument.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

did anyone want mcneill to stay?

garde is worse whats the difference?

i am genuinely surprised at the goodwill afforded to a manger who is making a shit team even shitter. if things are bad now then next season will be even harder.

You keep saying this, but your simplistic argument takes no account of the relative strengths of the squads. The one McNeill inherits was far stronger than the current one which is frankly a bit of a camel.

that is a cop out

garde has made zero difference, we look worse defensively hence a minus 20 odd goal difference

there is no arguement for keeping him whatsover

next season will be even harder, the shit will still be here because no ne will want them, he aint going to get much money and the few decent players we have will leave

these isnt a magic switch that will get turned on in the summer that will all of a sudden make garde fit for purpose

[Steve67]

Managers are paid to organise, get the best out of their resources. Garde has not done this. We might argue, throw players out of the club, bring more in. Can Garde be trusted to get the best out of them? Oooh, he will if we bring in his own players? His own players would have surely wanted premiership football and won't want to drop a league.  I see this both ways. It's a risk to keep Remi Garde next season either way. Does the new board see enough in him to get the team straight back up? Personally, I don't. But then again, I am not the chairman, and given the lack of support already dished out, I might be inclined to see what he can do, once supported. Will the board take the risk? Due to wanting stability, I reckon they will.

[Malandro]

Utmost respect Kuwait. I am in a similar boat today.  For the first time for longer than I care to recall I shall be going to Villa Park on my own.  No brother, neither son, no daughter, no grandson beside me.  Just me.  That is how bad it has become.

I have a number of misgivings about Remi Garde.  All top managers have to have the ability in extreme situations of putting the fear of God up their players.  He seems to lack that.  He is too forgiving and should never have allowed Agbonlahor or Richards back into the fold.  He is a percentage player not a risk taker.  He clearly needs men of his choice to help him.

Having said all that I come back like a compass needle to magnetic north to the unshakeable belief that there must be an end to manager hating, manager baiting and manager sacking at Villa Park.  We need a time to regroup and to rebuild.

I compare it to a family in a car on a journey.  Let one person hold the map and work out the directions, don't keep snatching it off him and going off in another direction.

I have the utmost respect for Mervyn King and David Bernstein.  I worked for the Bernstein family in the 60s and 70s and they are top drawer business people.  I am completely confident that they fully understand the overwhelming need for stability at the club.

If it is not going to be Remi in charge after the summer it will be somebody very similar.  Pearson, Davies, Bruce and their ilk are not what will happen.  I am a betting man and my money is still just about on Garde being persuaded to stay.

You should have given me a shout Brian, i would have joined you

[oswald funkletrumpet]

But he hasn't made us worse though, under Garde we have been no worse than we were under Sherwood.

sherwood 1 win in 10
garde 2 wins in 18

looks the same to me

[brian green]

Thanks Mal, I could have treated you to lunch at The George.  Perhaps better on my own, I am shit company at the moment.  Like Bridget Jones I am on the edge of reason.