Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[old man villa fan]

@Diablo yeah well maybe Cas does have some kind of mystic powers, he was signed by Millwall for a set of trackuits and some corrigated iron and went on to play for Villa, Celtic, Marseille and Chelsea. Not to mention a World Cup Quarter Final with Ireland. He may not be everyone's favourite Villain but when he comes out with what are occasional printed media statements concerning football clubs he is usually not far wrong.

And I am not a fan either but he was good value alongside Patrick Kinghorn.

anyway, respect man. my original reason for contributing to the debate was cos i disagree with the "its not my squad" argument that seems to be coming from Villa Park as a viable excuse. Remi Garde was hired in the main to unite the dressing room and by all accounts he hasn't and any grand olde football club with any proper self respect does not/should not retain a manager that gets you relegated.

I thought Garde was brought in to get the best value out of the players brought in during the summer, especially those from France.  The first thing was to get them into the team.  I do not remember any specific mention about uniting the dressing room.

[andyh]

I find it quite disconcerting when discussing Remi and the argument that he 'should be given a year to see what he can do with his won players'.
Firstly, he has done nothing to warrant such faith. He will have had the best part of 2 thirds of a season by May, and a couple of wins in that time, is a disgustingly poor return in that time.
Yes, we all know the squad is piss poor, crap attitudes and all that, but a couple of wins in all that time? Come on.
Not only are the results disgraceful, the approach and performances are beyond dire.
There has been no variation in our play, every game is approached the same, pretty much every game is a carbon copy of the previous one, with the only vacation being the number of goals conceded.
Secondly, I don't believe he will get 'his own team'.
We will undoubtably lose a few players, we will undoubtedly sign a few.
But, I will bet that the vast majority of what we have now, will form the basis of our squad next season.
The problem is, he doesn't believe in them, and they don't believe in him.
I do like him. He is articulate, intelligent and dignified.
But, being a nice talker is not enough.

I think it will best all round if he leaves.
And if he does go, why should that automatically mean Pearson, Pulis or Bruce?
One would hope that a new board might be a bit more savvy than that.

And my 'pie in the sky' dream would be to go for Eddie Howe.
Break the bank for him, make him an offer he cannot refuse.
As I said before, Aston Villa in the Championship is 1000 times bigger that Bournemouth in the prem.

[Ron Manager]

@Diablo yeah well maybe Cas does have some kind of mystic powers, he was signed by Millwall for a set of trackuits and some corrigated iron and went on to play for Villa, Celtic, Marseille and Chelsea. Not to mention a World Cup Quarter Final with Ireland. He may not be everyone's favourite Villain but when he comes out with what are occasional printed media statements concerning football clubs he is usually not far wrong.

And I am not a fan either but he was good value alongside Patrick Kinghorn.

anyway, respect man. my original reason for contributing to the debate was cos i disagree with the "its not my squad" argument that seems to be coming from Villa Park as a viable excuse. Remi Garde was hired in the main to unite the dressing room and by all accounts he hasn't and any grand olde football club with any proper self respect does not/should not retain a manager that gets you relegated.

I thought Garde was brought in to get the best value out of the players brought in during the summer, especially those from France.  The first thing was to get them into the team.  I do not remember any specific mention about uniting the dressing room.

Correct OMVF.

[ez]

I fear Garde will be gone at the end of the season. I expect he wants a clearout and to rebuild. Unfortunately the powers that be are still in denial that the summer signings are useless and therefore it must be the manager's faults. Garde isn't the yes man who's going to tow the line but he will be replaced with one.

[ZhongYi]

@Diablo yeah well maybe Cas does have some kind of mystic powers, he was signed by Millwall for a set of trackuits and some corrigated iron and went on to play for Villa, Celtic, Marseille and Chelsea. Not to mention a World Cup Quarter Final with Ireland. He may not be everyone's favourite Villain but when he comes out with what are occasional printed media statements concerning football clubs he is usually not far wrong.

And I am not a fan either but he was good value alongside Patrick Kinghorn.

anyway, respect man. my original reason for contributing to the debate was cos i disagree with the "its not my squad" argument that seems to be coming from Villa Park as a viable excuse. Remi Garde was hired in the main to unite the dressing room and by all accounts he hasn't and any grand olde football club with any proper self respect does not/should not retain a manager that gets you relegated.

I thought Garde was brought in to get the best value out of the players brought in during the summer, especially those from France.  The first thing was to get them into the team.  I do not remember any specific mention about uniting the dressing room.

well the French contigent had felt ostracised under Sherwood and Garde was seen as an ideal choice to get everyone (the dressing room) heading in the same direction. Example, just an observation - watch Jordan Ayew's goal celebration against Swansea when he tells another team mate to F off. It could well be nothing but "early doors" it seemed the French guys felt they were to blame for what was going on. That is a point that has been made in the media since. 

Concede though that my point of maybe uniting the dressing room is debatable, depending on how you look at it but Garde as reported at the time was hired to get the French players who cost a few million each into the Villa ethos. At the time of Garde's appointment people talked of those players as money ball players. A Yankee phrase. Yankee owner. Yanke mis-management.

[dave.woodhall]

@Diablo yeah well maybe Cas does have some kind of mystic powers, he was signed by Millwall for a set of trackuits and some corrigated iron and went on to play for Villa, Celtic, Marseille and Chelsea. Not to mention a World Cup Quarter Final with Ireland. He may not be everyone's favourite Villain but when he comes out with what are occasional printed media statements concerning football clubs he is usually not far wrong.

And I am not a fan either but he was good value alongside Patrick Kinghorn.

anyway, respect man. my original reason for contributing to the debate was cos i disagree with the "its not my squad" argument that seems to be coming from Villa Park as a viable excuse. Remi Garde was hired in the main to unite the dressing room and by all accounts he hasn't and any grand olde football club with any proper self respect does not/should not retain a manager that gets you relegated.

I thought Garde was brought in to get the best value out of the players brought in during the summer, especially those from France.  The first thing was to get them into the team.  I do not remember any specific mention about uniting the dressing room.

well the French contigent had felt ostracised under Sherwood and Garde was seen as an ideal choice to get everyone (the dressing room) heading in the same direction. Example, just an observation - watch Jordan Ayew's goal celebration against Swansea when he tells another team mate to F off. It could well be nothing but "early doors" it seemed the French guys felt they were to blame for what was going on. That is a point that has been made in the media since. 

Concede though that my point of maybe uniting the dressing room is debatable, depending on how you look at it but Garde as reported at the time was hired to get the French players who cost a few million each into the Villa ethos. At the time of Garde's appointment people talked of those players as money ball players. A Yankee phrase. Yankee owner. Yanke mis-management.

We've said this many times and will keep saying it. Nationality has nothing to do with what's going on, so kindly refrain from such comments.

[Toronto Villa]

The French contingent felt that way and compounded by the English Amigos; Tim, Micah and the Gabster ensuring the divide in the dressing room not only remained but got wider.

[mr underhill]

wider even than the Flabster?

[ZhongYi]

@Diablo yeah well maybe Cas does have some kind of mystic powers, he was signed by Millwall for a set of trackuits and some corrigated iron and went on to play for Villa, Celtic, Marseille and Chelsea. Not to mention a World Cup Quarter Final with Ireland. He may not be everyone's favourite Villain but when he comes out with what are occasional printed media statements concerning football clubs he is usually not far wrong.

And I am not a fan either but he was good value alongside Patrick Kinghorn.

anyway, respect man. my original reason for contributing to the debate was cos i disagree with the "its not my squad" argument that seems to be coming from Villa Park as a viable excuse. Remi Garde was hired in the main to unite the dressing room and by all accounts he hasn't and any grand olde football club with any proper self respect does not/should not retain a manager that gets you relegated.

I thought Garde was brought in to get the best value out of the players brought in during the summer, especially those from France.  The first thing was to get them into the team.  I do not remember any specific mention about uniting the dressing room.

well the French contigent had felt ostracised under Sherwood and Garde was seen as an ideal choice to get everyone (the dressing room) heading in the same direction. Example, just an observation - watch Jordan Ayew's goal celebration against Swansea when he tells another team mate to F off. It could well be nothing but "early doors" it seemed the French guys felt they were to blame for what was going on. That is a point that has been made in the media since. 

Concede though that my point of maybe uniting the dressing room is debatable, depending on how you look at it but Garde as reported at the time was hired to get the French players who cost a few million each into the Villa ethos. At the time of Garde's appointment people talked of those players as money ball players. A Yankee phrase. Yankee owner. Yanke mis-management.

We've said this many times and will keep saying it. Nationality has nothing to do with what's going on, so kindly refrain from such comments.

Okay Dave sure, understood. Freedom of speech / opinion here is allowed and is not misconstrued as trolling right.

wrong.

[Diablo]

@Diablo yeah well maybe Cas does have some kind of mystic powers, he was signed by Millwall for a set of trackuits and some corrigated iron and went on to play for Villa, Celtic, Marseille and Chelsea. Not to mention a World Cup Quarter Final with Ireland. He may not be everyone's favourite Villain but when he comes out with what are occasional printed media statements concerning football clubs he is usually not far wrong.

And I am not a fan either but he was good value alongside Patrick Kinghorn.

anyway, respect man. my original reason for contributing to the debate was cos i disagree with the "its not my squad" argument that seems to be coming from Villa Park as a viable excuse. Remi Garde was hired in the main to unite the dressing room and by all accounts he hasn't and any grand olde football club with any proper self respect does not/should not retain a manager that gets you relegated.

@ZhongYi Arrrgh!! Tony Cascarino has mystic powers!! You mention his World Cup quarter final but omitted the fact that he wasn't even eligible to play for Ireland?! That alone is wizardry. Eighty effin' eight appearances for Ireland!!? 88!!? I feel like I'm in the part of a horror film where the sheer power and extent of the evil that they face is revealed just before their death. Sheeeeet!!

I see your original point by the way and would normally agree with you (under normal managerial circumstances). Scary times! Even more so now with the Cascarino revelation ;-)

[dave.woodhall]

@Diablo yeah well maybe Cas does have some kind of mystic powers, he was signed by Millwall for a set of trackuits and some corrigated iron and went on to play for Villa, Celtic, Marseille and Chelsea. Not to mention a World Cup Quarter Final with Ireland. He may not be everyone's favourite Villain but when he comes out with what are occasional printed media statements concerning football clubs he is usually not far wrong.

And I am not a fan either but he was good value alongside Patrick Kinghorn.

anyway, respect man. my original reason for contributing to the debate was cos i disagree with the "its not my squad" argument that seems to be coming from Villa Park as a viable excuse. Remi Garde was hired in the main to unite the dressing room and by all accounts he hasn't and any grand olde football club with any proper self respect does not/should not retain a manager that gets you relegated.

I thought Garde was brought in to get the best value out of the players brought in during the summer, especially those from France.  The first thing was to get them into the team.  I do not remember any specific mention about uniting the dressing room.

well the French contigent had felt ostracised under Sherwood and Garde was seen as an ideal choice to get everyone (the dressing room) heading in the same direction. Example, just an observation - watch Jordan Ayew's goal celebration against Swansea when he tells another team mate to F off. It could well be nothing but "early doors" it seemed the French guys felt they were to blame for what was going on. That is a point that has been made in the media since. 

Concede though that my point of maybe uniting the dressing room is debatable, depending on how you look at it but Garde as reported at the time was hired to get the French players who cost a few million each into the Villa ethos. At the time of Garde's appointment people talked of those players as money ball players. A Yankee phrase. Yankee owner. Yanke mis-management.

We've said this many times and will keep saying it. Nationality has nothing to do with what's going on, so kindly refrain from such comments.

Okay Dave sure, understood. Freedom of speech / opinion here is allowed and is not misconstrued as trolling right.

wrong.

If you dont like the way we do things there are plenty of other places where you can be as xenophobic as you like.

[Dave]

At the time of Garde's appointment people talked of those players as money ball players. A Yankee phrase. Yankee owner. Yanke mis-management.

Well, people who didn't really have a clue might have talked like that.

[DaveD]

I said (not here, to a mate) when Garde joined that I thought he was the right man for the medium term, but I feared the inevitable relegation, given the position and squad he inherited, would damage him to the point where he'd leave in the summer.

I'd still like to see him given fair crack with his own players.

[LeeB]

I said (not here, to a mate) when Garde joined that I thought he was the right man for the medium term, but I feared the inevitable relegation, given the position and squad he inherited, would damage him to the point where he'd leave in the summer.

I'd still like to see him given fair crack with his own players.

I said almost exactly the same thing at the same time to my brother. It depressingly seems to be panning out as expected.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

I'm excited, being just one "clique" away from calling House!