Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Malandro]

I understand his hands are tied with the squad, but Gardner is a better midfielder than Bacuna and Westwood and was allowed to go.

I find the Gardner decision really odd too. Why not have him on the bench at the very least?

[passport1]

It all come back to one thing , in my opinion. We will never get a quality manager with Lerner owning the club.

We desperately need new ownership if we are to climb out of the hole we are in.

[django]

Pearson for me.

What is the appeal of Pearson?  Surely the up turn in form between Ranieri's leicester versus Pearson's leicester should be a warning sign that he does not get the most out of his players.

He's had a pretty brief career but generally he seems to improve teams, keep them up, or get them promoted.

[Rico]

Spot on. It's got to the point now where the choice of manager is almost irrelevant. The club cannot function properly until Lerner sells up.

For my mind we are in a viscous circle of who is the lesser of two evils. If we stick with Garde we are fucked because clearly he has lost the dressing room, but if we get rid of Garde we are stuck with the biggest bunch of useless bastards I have ever seen pull on the claret and blue. (and I can remember Bernie Gallagher).

If I had a choice I would back Garde and honestly, if I had my way I would drop every single member of the first team and tell them that they are never going to play for Aston Villa again. The useless c**ts can f**k right off and get together in their cliques away from Villa park and Bodymoor Heath and stick their poisonous atmosphere where the sun don't shine. Seriously, I hate those f****rs. I would rather see the reserves. I feel so bad about Aston Villa right now that I would rather us be in league one than see Guzan, Westwood, Lescott, Gabby, Richards or Bacuna ever pull on the claret and blue again.

But it isn't going to happen is it, because even though they are the worst Villa team ever they ain't going to get sacked because sadly its all about player power now. So sadly Garde has got to go and this cluster f**k of a football club will continue to spiral out of control until a new owner comes to our rescue.

Never has a football club with so much potential been so badly run on all levels since 1983. It's almost laughable. These people are supposed to be intelligent. We're the biggest club for a radius of about 80 miles. We could be the biggest club in the country with the right people in charge. Instead we've had Ellis and Lerner. Jesus wept!

UTV

[ez]

It is irrelevant. The players were rubbish before he arrived and they are still rubbish. They are not capable of playing to premier league standard and changing managers won't change that.

[Villa in Denmark]

That's a very bold declaration saying Garde could get us back considering he's shown absolutely zero managerial competence in the short time he's been with us. What's more I can guarantee that the circumstances of the club won't be any different until RL sells up.

Agree with this. Garde has offered nothing in the PL so I don't see why anyone should have so much faith in his ability to get us out of the Championship.
I think you're right about the club under Lerner as well. Does anyone really think he'll be like a changed man next season and become ambitious again? Not a chance, it'll be more of the same.
Nothing will change till he sells up.

The only way Garde can work next season - and further forward - is if he is given the authority to strip the club back and remove it's rotten core.  With out that it will just be a continuation of what exists now.  He has given up on a fair few of the players and they have given up on him.

That's a pre-condition for whoever's in charge.  Otherwise you might as well save some cash and take a random 18 fans between the ages of 40 and 50, based on current fitness levels, to make up the team and a random 3 others to play manager and "backroom staff"

[ronshirt]

I would interview each player individually to establish whether or not they felt they were worth a place in the squad for the rest of the season. Those players that didn't convince me that they were worth keeping would be isolated from the rest of the squad and be made to train well away from BH. There is plenty of open space to the south of the city where they could practise their limited skills. I would recruit training staff from the local Job Centres. Modules would include spitting gum over distances, laughing up the sleeve, pointing and shrugging. That sort of thing. No changing facilities would be provided other than those of the nearest public toilets. Players would be disciplined for lateness and non-attendence. Persistent offenders would be sacked.

[Villa in Denmark]

I would interview each player individually to establish whether or not they felt they were worth a place in the squad for the rest of the season. Those players that didn't convince me that they were worth keeping would be isolated from the rest of the squad and be made to train well away from BH. There is plenty of open space to the south of the city where they could practise their limited skills. I would recruit training staff from the local Job Centres. Modules would include spitting gum over distances, laughing up the sleeve, pointing and shrugging. That sort of thing. No changing facilities would be provided other than those of the nearest public toilets. Players would be disciplined for lateness and non-attendence. Persistent offenders would be sacked.

If he doesn't know that by now, he can take a straw poll of the fans, because I think we've got it pretty much right.

The only reasons for not dropping some of the wastrels for the kids are:

1. Not wanting to "contaminate" them with the poison that appears to be the dressing room.  I remain convinced, based on earlier appearances that the likes of Clark and Weimann whilst never being world beaters, had the potential limited by coming into the team as they did.

2. The kids aren't actually of the required quality.

[pbavfckuwait]

The reality of Premier League Sky fest, is it is cheaper to sack the manager than rip up a load of unprofessional, unfit for purpose wankers contracts, that even if we wanted to get rid, unless it is done correctly will have Taylor and his PFA association all over us in a second, but even after 10 years the people who run Aston Villa have not been able to identify good professional footballers with decent characters, they would rather go the overload with numbers, (MON) approach, costly route therefore they must be good, the young, hungry and not fit for premier league route, or our present route of the money ball transfer club route. Until we have a system of scouting in place that is going to have to be as good as anything in the premier league and beyond nothing is going to change and with Lerner in charge Birmingham City have more chance of being crowned Kings of Europe.

[VinnieChase84]

For me I can't see him staying at all and think if he doesn't walk then he will 100% get the boot.
Reason:
Upon his appointment as manager - We were told that RG was brought in to coach and get more out the crop we currently have. We were told he was happy with the summer recruitment and could get more from them.
This hasn't happened. If the league season started when RG was appointed then we would still be rock bottom of the league.
Doesn't seem to be able to coach, motivate, develop anyone in our group (rightly or wrongly with the egos and attitudes that we have)

[Yossarian]

Spot on. It's got to the point now where the choice of manager is almost irrelevant. The club cannot function properly until Lerner sells up.

For my mind we are in a viscous circle of who is the lesser of two evils. If we stick with Garde we are fucked because clearly he has lost the dressing room, but if we get rid of Garde we are stuck with the biggest bunch of useless bastards I have ever seen pull on the claret and blue. (and I can remember Bernie Gallagher).

If I had a choice I would back Garde and honestly, if I had my way I would drop every single member of the first team and tell them that they are never going to play for Aston Villa again. The useless c**ts can f**k right off and get together in their cliques away from Villa park and Bodymoor Heath and stick their poisonous atmosphere where the sun don't shine. Seriously, I hate those f****rs. I would rather see the reserves. I feel so bad about Aston Villa right now that I would rather us be in league one than see Guzan, Westwood, Lescott, Gabby, Richards or Bacuna ever pull on the claret and blue again.

But it isn't going to happen is it, because even though they are the worst Villa team ever they ain't going to get sacked because sadly its all about player power now. So sadly Garde has got to go and this cluster f**k of a football club will continue to spiral out of control until a new owner comes to our rescue.

Never has a football club with so much potential been so badly run on all levels since 1983. It's almost laughable. These people are supposed to be intelligent. We're the biggest club for a radius of about 80 miles. We could be the biggest club in the country with the right people in charge. Instead we've had Ellis and Lerner. Jesus wept!

UTV

I completely agree with what you say here.

Lerner and Ellis whilst not being anywhere near as bad as Olsen or Cellino have been pretty awful owners. Surely (although maths says that this isn't the case) we are due a good owner.

[Salsa Party Animal]

I think Remi Garde should take whole squad on a week training camp aboard in the sun to get away from pressure as it might help to unite the team. Worth a try. It might be what we need.

[Toronto Villa]

The last thing I'm offering any of this lot is a holiday in the sun. If the cause hasn't united them then nothing will. We need to get to the end of the season and wave goodbye to those who are the root of the issues at the club. Otherwise it simply doesn't end.

[bob]

I'll say it for the 4th or 5th time. Howe would do it given the backing and the guarantees.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Funniest post I've ever read.

[bob]

Pot one: Moyes, Rodgers, Hughes
Pot two: Dyche, Bruce, Warburton
Shit on the pot: Pearson, Holloway, Penis

Who's it gonna be?

Lerner's magical mystery pot:
Someone so bad no-one even considered them a possibility