Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[aj2k77]

All Garde seems to have done is come in and tell us it's all as bad as we've feared. No progress on the pitch now and I can't imagine things behind the scenes have done anything other than go backwards. I don't think he's gone about things the right way.

[Ormy Droid]

I said last night that reluctantly I'm not sure Garde's the guy. I don't know who 'the' guy is, but he needs to have solid experience of managing and motivating shite.

And I'm very worried the answer our inept Board will come up with is Pulis, once he's sacked by the Baggies in the summer.

Given the financial abyss we're staring into, they'd be stupid not to consider it. I wouldn't want him either, but if they can't get rid of Gabby, Richards, Lescott, etc. and rebuild the playing staff, it would make sense to get someone in who could get the best out of them, plus the likes of Gestede, in a desperate attempt to get us promoted at the first attempt.

Trust me, I'd much prefer if we could get rid of the lot of them and start all over again. But if we can't do that, we need someone capable of uniting that team and getting them to play for each other, get back up and establish ourselves in the Prem again, before kicking on, a la West Ham, rather than do a Leeds.

[Lambert and Payne]

I said last night that reluctantly I'm not sure Garde's the guy. I don't know who 'the' guy is, but he needs to have solid experience of managing and motivating shite.

And I'm very worried the answer our inept Board will come up with is Pulis, once he's sacked by the Baggies in the summer.

Given the financial abyss we're staring into, they'd be stupid not to consider it. I wouldn't want him either, but if they can't get rid of Gabby, Richards, Lescott, etc. and rebuild the playing staff, it would make sense to get someone in who could get the best out of them, plus the likes of Gestede, in a desperate attempt to get us promoted at the first attempt.

Trust me, I'd much prefer if we could get rid of the lot of them and start all over again. But if we can't do that, we need someone capable of uniting that team and getting them to play for each other, get back up and establish ourselves in the Prem again, before kicking on, a la West Ham, rather than do a Leeds.

Think Pearson would be the man for me. How absolutely depressing.

[Chris Smith]

I don't think we have enough to go on to make a proper judgement on Garde. Given the potential alternatives and our propensity for making poor choices I would prefer that he is given the opportunity to spend some money and build his own squad.

[Jimbo]

All Garde seems to have done is come in and tell us it's all as bad as we've feared. No progress on the pitch now and I can't imagine things behind the scenes have done anything other than go backwards. I don't think he's gone about things the right way.

What could he do? You could put Mahatma Gandhi in a pub full of brawling drunks, but he'd still walk out with a black eye. 

[aj2k77]

All Garde seems to have done is come in and tell us it's all as bad as we've feared. No progress on the pitch now and I can't imagine things behind the scenes have done anything other than go backwards. I don't think he's gone about things the right way.

What could he do? You could put Mahatma Gandhi in a pub full of brawling drunks, but he'd still walk out with a black eye. 

So what's the point of him? He's gone in the summer, so we've fired someone, paid compo, hired someone, paid them a wage to tell us we're shit, there's trouble behind the scenes and lose all the time. There's no progress at all and the selections are getting towards the Sherwood pin the tail on the donkey style team sheets.

[Pete]

From the Guardian match report

“I’m not been here for a long time enough to assess the behaviour of everybody,” said Garde, when asked about the Villa supporters’ protest. “I respect the fans because they are totally part of the club but I have to respect as well my position and the people who put me in this position.

“I concentrate my energy on what I am asked to do, which is to try to win games with this squad of players.”

He's not a happy bunny. " the people who put me in this position." Is he referring to the board, the players, or the whole lot of them?

[VillaAlways]

From the Guardian match report

“I’m not been here for a long time enough to assess the behaviour of everybody,” said Garde, when asked about the Villa supporters’ protest. “I respect the fans because they are totally part of the club but I have to respect as well my position and the people who put me in this position.

“I concentrate my energy on what I am asked to do, which is to try to win games with this squad of players.”

He's not a happy bunny. " the people who put me in this position." Is he referring to the board, the players, or the whole lot of them?

I think he means the board put him into the position of manager

[gpbarr]

When Remi walks, he will go with the blessing of most fans and pundits because they realize he is just a symptom, but not the cause

[FranzBiberkopf]

When Remi walks, he will go with the blessing of most fans and pundits because they realize he is just a symptom, but not the cause

I don't think he'll walk.

He'll get sacked.

You cannot, whatever the circumstances and overall shitness of the squad, deliver of record of, what say 3/4/5 wins in 3/4 of a season and still expect to be in a job next year.

One would assume that the board (dangerous assumption I know) would have built a clause in to his contract saying "relegation negates any claim to compensation in the event of dismissal".

[montague]

Theres enough decent managers for the championship I am sure would still be attracted to one of the country biggest clubs - Howe, Dyche, Hughton - all with a history of working with next to nothing and getting clubs up.

[dave.woodhall]

One would assume that the board (dangerous assumption I know) would have built a clause in to his contract saying "relegation negates any claim to compensation in the event of dismissal".

If they have they'll be the first club ever.

[NeilH]

Somebody referred to Garde’s tenure as akin to Cloughie at Leeds and the more I think about it; the more I see the analogies.  There is clearly a very strong dressing room clique that has been allowed to fester over the course of a number of years and Garde has tried (and failed) to tackle this. Like Cloughie before him, this will only head in one direction.
It’s oft been said ‘right man, wrong time’ but I still believe that his inability to garner a managerial bounce led directly to the decision not to invest in Jan, which has in turn led to the spiral we are now on. My biggest fear is that his departure (and I am convinced he will depart) will lead to the appointment of a firebrand, as it will be perceived as the best option for the Championship.
Oh for the collective lot of them to fall on their swords, but in true bad managerial fashion, they will go into self-preservation mood. I truly fear that Fox aside (who will be the scapegoat), most of them will be in charge next year.

[Meanwood Villa]

It'd be nice to have a festering clique that delivered championships and cups like the one at Leeds.

[NeilH]

It'd be nice to have a festering clique that delivered championships and cups like the one at Leeds.

Yep, its the glaring hole in my analogy I'm afraid. Still at least this lot can return to their McMansions and bemoan the horrible Frenchman and ungrateful massed ranks.