Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Steve67]

I think he should go at the end of the season - don't really care whether he jumps or gets pushed. He's had no money, works for a board which seems to be comprised of genuine lunatics and a squad of really shit footballers who come across as a bunch of thin skinned cliquey schoolkids who need some real discipline and constant reminding of their responsibilities. I don't think any manager could have saved us and Garde can't do anything about the twat of an owner he works for but I'd expect any half decent manager to be able to squeeze a drop of extra blood out of the team. They're clearly not motivated and that's the manager's responsibility. I'm really worried that we'll struggle under him in the 2nd division. I'm sure he's a nice bloke, etc......

Unless he gets absolutely what he needs in terms of support, I think I am with you on this. I too wonder if a Moyes or God help us, Tiny Penis was in charge, we would have got more out of the players.  I am easy either way as to whether he walks or not. He seems to say the right things but continues to pick players who constantly let us/him down.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I thought that was one of the most damning things about our squad that he said last week: that if he had better/other players he would pick them...
A fair number of this lot are not good enough, but they're all he's got so he has to pick them!

[fbriai]

I'm beginning to wonder whether we are going to need a manager like Moyes next season. I mean, I like Garde, but I'm starting to think that, given the apparent power vacuum at the club, we need a manager that can put himself about a bit.

My reasoning is that Moyes would be more likely to come in and take an approach along the lines of that taken by SGT the last time we went down; when we were also an utter shambles: come in, tell the players what's what and to fill the void left by the absence of any footballing knowledge at board level.

Yes, they aren't up to it upstairs, but, for a manager, that could also be an opportunity.

[cdward]

I would be concerned about what backing he will get in the summer. Hollis is in his first football role (sound familiar), and knows about cutting costs.
I like Garde, but i think he is finding it hard to motivate himself, so trying to motivate this team is nearly impossible.
As for Pulis, he walked away from Palace over the lack of transfer budget, no chance he would come here.

[MarkM]

I have to say, that I am not impressed with Remi at all. As a person not a problem but he is not what the club needed when we took him on.

He has failed to motivate and to change the attitudes of our bunch of wasters, which is what was needed what he came in.

He may well succeed at a club that is stable (such as an Everton or similar) but this appointment has been a failure. I understand that he has not had the option to bring his own players in, but that does not excuse the absolute rubbish performances, tactics and style (or lack of) that we have demonstrated.

Whether he will succeed in bringing us back up, I am unsure. I don't see the board giving the green light for medium spending levels so Remi may well have most of the same players next season with a couple of new ones. Is he still going to struggle to motivate them?

[fredm]

People keep saying about having Moyes as manager.  I think there is more chance of finding cheese on the moon than that happening.  He will go to a solid, mid table PL team not one scrambling to get out of the Championship on a meagre budget.

[Steve67]

People keep saying about having Moyes as manager.  I think there is more chance of finding cheese on the moon than that happening.  He will go to a solid, mid table PL team not one scrambling to get out of the Championship on a meagre budget.

So, West Brim then?

[wince]

I would hate for pulis to come here. Every five minutes we have 'Tony Pulis could stabilise things' etc etc. I would rather go down and fight back up than have pulis making us like West Brom are. Yes better on points than us but dull, unambitious and a total cock to boot. I wholeheartdedly put the blame onto the players. Even Sherwood said they are not doing what they are instructed to do when he was here. I back Garde and still think he could be a great manager for us

[andyh]

Like pretty much everyone, I do like Garde.
He speaks well, appears knowledgeable and has been very dignified while he has been at the club, despite having to put up with incredible pressure.
He is obviously a good man,but I still can't work out whether he is actually a good manager.
He obviously trains the players, he gives them his tactics and the approach he wants to each game,
But, even with the limitations he has with the players, these tactics and way of playing haven't really changed since day 1.
We still don't play with any real width, the full backs or wide players, NEVER get to the byline a cross.
We still never get forward in great numbers.
The midfield rarely support the front players, there are never any runners.
We never see a midfielder in front of the strikers, bombing on into space.
Players seem incapable of shooting, or getting shots on target.
Westwood, I'm looking at you here. He get at least one chance every game and never, ever hits the target.
We still play at walking pace, knocking the ball sideways and backwards, rarely do we move the ball around quickly and move.

So, yes I fully understand that the players are all shit and are not very good at doing what they are paid for.
But, these are all things that are basics in football, I believe.
Even if the players are shit, it doesn't stop them being told to TRY and do these things.
Being shit shouldn't stop you trying to play the game properly.

I wonder whether Remi is generally a conservative (some might say negative) manager by nature and we are playing the style of football he wants.

I'm not so sure the way we play now will get us out of the championship very quickly.

[Billy Walker]

I have to say, that I am not impressed with Remi at all. As a person not a problem but he is not what the club needed when we took him on.

He has failed to motivate and to change the attitudes of our bunch of wasters, which is what was needed what he came in.

He may well succeed at a club that is stable (such as an Everton or similar) but this appointment has been a failure. I understand that he has not had the option to bring his own players in, but that does not excuse the absolute rubbish performances, tactics and style (or lack of) that we have demonstrated.

Whether he will succeed in bringing us back up, I am unsure. I don't see the board giving the green light for medium spending levels so Remi may well have most of the same players next season with a couple of new ones. Is he still going to struggle to motivate them?

I disagree in that I think he was managing to halt the slide, change attitudes and so on until he had the rug pulled from under him in January.  Any chance of building momentum was lost there and then and it is clear, to me at least, that Remi hasn't quite been the same since. 

[KevinGage]

He may well succeed at a club that is stable (such as an Everton or similar) but this appointment has been a failure.

Not sure about Everton, as those moaning minnies have been giving Martinez all kinds of abuse this season.

But I do wonder how Garde would have fared at a Southampton, Swansea or similar.

[bob]

I think it is irrelevant who is manager next season, or any other season, whilst Lerner is in charge.

As the article says, we are at a crossroads. There are clear signposts pointing towards promotion, others towards hanging around the Championship for a while. Some will be good roads to go down, some not so good. Then there are turnings that no-one with any sense would choose to go down. Disastrous directions that take you to places even worse than the last.

Lerner has turned his indicator on and is heading straight for the sign pointing towards total oblivion. While he is here, that's the only place we're heading. I'm starting to think all this shit we've been through over the last few years, this desperate decline towards relegation, this nightmare we want to wake up from, is actually only just the start.

[Ron Manager]

I have to say, that I am not impressed with Remi at all. As a person not a problem but he is not what the club needed when we took him on.

He has failed to motivate and to change the attitudes of our bunch of wasters, which is what was needed what he came in.

He may well succeed at a club that is stable (such as an Everton or similar) but this appointment has been a failure. I understand that he has not had the option to bring his own players in, but that does not excuse the absolute rubbish performances, tactics and style (or lack of) that we have demonstrated.

Whether he will succeed in bringing us back up, I am unsure. I don't see the board giving the green light for medium spending levels so Remi may well have most of the same players next season with a couple of new ones. Is he still going to struggle to motivate them?

I disagree in that I think he was managing to halt the slide, change attitudes and so on until he had the rug pulled from under him in January.  Any chance of building momentum was lost there and then and it is clear, to me at least, that Remi hasn't quite been the same since.

and I agree with those sentiments. I would guess that he had been told by either Fox/Lerner that he would have a budget of sorts for the January window but when Hollis came in he found he hadn't. This must have depressed him no end and I find it surprising that he is still here and looking older every press conference.

[FranzBiberkopf]

I'm starting to think all this shit we've been through over the last few years, this desperate decline towards relegation, this nightmare we want to wake up from, is actually only just the start.

Bit over the top, but I hear ya.

Remember all those days, not so long ago, when they only thing we had to moan about was the fact that Alpay was being played as a right-back not as a centre-half?

[olaftab]

Don't know where to post this but I am just onboard an Emirates flight to Dubai , I am off to Shanghai, and big Ron is  here. Already spoken to him but I will invite him for his favourite tipple when we are in the air and find out what he thinks about is just now.