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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 942702 times)

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5265 on: February 28, 2016, 12:41:06 AM »
I do wonder about the approach Garde is taking with regard to making comments very publicly regarding quality. That he's saying to all that the quality of the players isn't good enough. Now, let's not kid ourselves he's not wrong. We are where we are in large part down to that. But right now, when the manager should be pumping up the players to believe in themselves is that having a counter productive effect? Or is it more a message to his employers about the state of play heading into next season? That without serious investment this situation won't get better any time soon?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5266 on: February 28, 2016, 01:10:05 AM »
I think he has already decided he is going in May and doesn't care who he upsets now. The board won't sack him with the distinct chance he will walk or take a low settlement come May, already know we are down, so are simply letting us bob about until then.

Garde won't be here next season. Hopefully some of the board won't either.

I think his open season on the players, however right, is misjudged, and he looks about as motivated as they do since the window closed.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5267 on: February 28, 2016, 01:42:27 AM »
I can't ever recall a club that seems to show as little fight as we have this season, bottom of the table, most goals conceded, fewest Kms covered over the pitch, no new manager bounce, not a single new signing in the window. A shameful surrender.

I know someone finishes bottom every year but the collective lack of fight and general disinterest shown throughout the club, from boardroom to manager to club captain to players is unbelievable.

The fans are great but this club deserve everything they are getting.  I've no time for any of them at all.




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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5268 on: February 28, 2016, 01:46:29 AM »
Well said OzVilla.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5269 on: February 28, 2016, 02:45:03 AM »
I can't remember ever feeling such a gulf between the players and the fans. There isn't a single player whose departure would sadden me.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5270 on: February 28, 2016, 03:49:57 AM »
So we have a bunch of overpaid under achievers, many that are on contracts that gives them no motivation to leave. I bet there is a lack of relegation clauses.
A manager who looks like he is going through the motions until the end of the season.
It is difficult to think of a worse predicament, there again we have next season to think about.


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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5271 on: February 28, 2016, 04:05:38 AM »
So we have a bunch of overpaid under achievers, many that are on contracts that gives them no motivation to leave. I bet there is a lack of relegation clauses.

I think anyone we've signed in the last year or so will have a clause, those before that possibly not. We'll be stuck with Gabby, that's for sure!

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5272 on: February 28, 2016, 04:23:51 AM »
In the months and years to come, we might find out what the root cause of this cluster-fuck is, apart from RL that is.
It can't just be Remi, the team were gash under previous managers.
Is it a poisonous mix of toxic personalities within the squad? Or an atmosphere engendered from above? Or both?
I don't know, but with what footballers and their weekly lottery wins cost, clubs need to look beyond their ability: character and personality, mental stability etc must be examined.

Mind you, signing players with ability would be a good place to start.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5273 on: February 28, 2016, 05:13:35 AM »
I think you've probably answered your own question in the last line. I can only think of one genuinely, consistently gifted player who we signed in the last five years and the supporters of his current club think he's wank.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5274 on: February 28, 2016, 06:42:14 AM »
How the hell have we reached this point, we have players who hate the manager and do not want to play for him, by the sounds of it a manager that hates half the players and does not want to pick them, but has to, then a manager sending messages of how crap we are and I have no options because you would not back me to the board, if this was happening down small heath or smethwick we would be pissing ourselves.
One thing that needs highlighting from all who says playing the kids is not the answer, or at least part of the answer, if Adama was fit we would be screaming for his inclusion, but lets remember he is only 19, if you are going to put them on the bench, do not, unless you are ready to use them.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5275 on: February 28, 2016, 08:09:25 AM »
Is Remi Garde up to the job ??

Well no one can blame him for our current predicament.
BUT, but what has he done that me or you couldn't have done in ?

That's a serious question.

He persists in playing the same players, bar Bunn for Guzan.
He persists in playing the same formation that has failed for 5 years
He cant motivate the current players
He hasn't signed any players (ok I don't blame him for this - just saying)

If I was manager I believe I could have done as well as Garde.

I'm not actually advocating sacking him as I honestly don't know whether he is the right man or not.

What's he done, at Villa, that makes you believe he is the man for next season ?

I'll answer the question when you advise that what qualifications do you have to suggest you could have done as well as Garde?

Also what you would have done in your professional capacity to be able to glean the points from opponents?  Are you a qualified professional football coach? What is your record?
How would you have motivated and managed the players, many of whom pick up a pay check and have zero professional integrity?

Let me know how you would have done as well.

One final question do you like Bitter?

done as well as garde?

2 wins in what 16 games, a massive minus gd and our heaviest home defeat in 81 years and the same old repetitive shit week in week out

jesus i would hate to see what garde doing badly would look like

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5276 on: February 28, 2016, 08:27:23 AM »
In the months and years to come, we might find out what the root cause of this cluster-fuck is, apart from RL that is.
It can't just be Remi, the team were gash under previous managers.
Is it a poisonous mix of toxic personalities within the squad? Or an atmosphere engendered from above? Or both?
I don't know, but with what footballers and their weekly lottery wins cost, clubs need to look beyond their ability: character and personality, mental stability etc must be examined.

Mind you, signing players with ability would be a good place to start.

It's a toxic organisation. As in all such cases, that toxicity will spread to every member of the organisation. The good ones all leave alongside some bad ones, leaving behind the feckless, the disinterested and the downright poisonous. This isn't just a bad set of players. Nobody at the club can be arsed, and it all begins with the cowardly owner.

The thing that really irks me is that if this were happening to a club like Arsenal or Liverpool, there would be a sense of outrage among the media and sheer fury from the fans. How dare this great institution be wrecked like this? Here it's ridicule, shoulder shrugging and a bit of gallows humour. What will be will be.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5277 on: February 28, 2016, 08:32:07 AM »
It looks to me like Garde knows he won't be here next season, so on that basis appears to have given up just as much as the players.  Wrong man at the wrong time.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5278 on: February 28, 2016, 09:09:58 AM »
Apart from the financial problems and the absence of the club, his psycholohical and technique incapacity to guide and improve the team is amazing.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5279 on: February 28, 2016, 09:10:19 AM »
Get rid of Garde and hire the swearing at the team bus nutter, it's the only response we've had from the players all season. This civil war between players and manager is a disgrace to the clubs name, they all should be ashamed of themselves, Garde isn't coming out smelling of roses either, this isn't the way to run the team and if you have told me when he joined that it would be 2 wins in 16 and him telling the media theyre all useless, lasy and shit and then keep picking them I'd have asked what's the point, It's only adding to the toxic atmosphere.

 


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