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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 942595 times)

Offline Eckybloke

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5145 on: February 26, 2016, 11:19:54 AM »
The statement from Remi seems just like an "it's them or me" ultimatum and quite frankly it needs to be them.  If Remi also feels that it needs to be him then so be it but we're fucked as a club until these wastrels are out of the door.

Please Randy just do anything to sort this shite out.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5146 on: February 26, 2016, 11:24:40 AM »
the only things he can do is either sell (which he seems to find impossible at the price he wants) or invest (which he appears loathe to do). Talk about being between a rock and a hard place.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5147 on: February 26, 2016, 02:16:58 PM »
I think the club needs to support Remi and he needs to purge the club of the players whose attitude is not up to scratch. We can keep on sacking managers, but ultimately we seem to end up in the same position. A lot of it is down to a lack of leadership at the top of the club, which results in players thinking they are untouchable. But without a purge of those players we are just going to keep going round in the same cycle.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5148 on: February 26, 2016, 02:52:51 PM »
Yet again in interview he stated that he knew what he was taking on - bottom, 10 points adrift etc - but then there was more stuff than he'd been led to believe.
As a few of us have said before, this must surely be the atmosphere at BMH influenced by the attitude and commitment of some key personnel/players that Garde finds frustratingly unacceptable within a professional football club in the EPL...or almost any other football league!
But that's all he's got to work with - he's sensible enough not to throw the kids in, so can only play those in the first team squad who are clearly the best of a bad bunch.
He clearly thinks that a massive clear out is required, as well as a massive change in culture...something most of us would support 100%.
I hope he stays to do that job and that the board/Lerner back him 100% so that he can do it.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5149 on: February 26, 2016, 03:23:49 PM »
Is this why some of Lamberts coaching staff were got rid of, for presumably bullying the overpaid, overweening, useless assholes in our first team squad?
yes it didnt take roy keane long to see what was going on , he told them a few home truths , they threw dummies out the pram so he fucked off

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5150 on: February 26, 2016, 03:40:59 PM »
Is this why some of Lamberts coaching staff were got rid of, for presumably bullying the overpaid, overweening, useless assholes in our first team squad?
yes it didnt take roy keane long to see what was going on , he told them a few home truths , they threw dummies out the pram so he fucked off

Roy Keane could see a few of them for what they were. When he had a go at Grealish (remember him!) Grealish thought he was joking and couldn't wait to get on Twitter (or whatever it was) to let the world know. Roy Keane despite his failings was a total professional, who found members of the squad totally unprofessional and got out as soon as he could. I respect his dedication to the job and quite possibly Remi Garde would as well.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5151 on: February 26, 2016, 03:45:27 PM »
Is this why some of Lamberts coaching staff were got rid of, for presumably bullying the overpaid, overweening, useless assholes in our first team squad?
yes it didnt take roy keane long to see what was going on , he told them a few home truths , they threw dummies out the pram so he fucked off
Well from what we heard of Culverhouse and Karsa they certainly overstepped the mark. There's a difference between trying to instil discipline and bullying. I seem to recall Albrighton being rumoured to have been on the receiving end of those two in one incident, but lets face it, if there's one thing Albrighton isn't, it's lazy.

As for Roy Keane. Well he's a c**t. Always has been, always will. His ego comes first.
Not that I'm remotely sticking up for the players here. The vast majority definitely do need to pull their fingers out, but they need to be pushed in the right way, as much as I'd like to see some of them getting pelted with tea cups. 

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5152 on: February 26, 2016, 03:46:24 PM »
Is this why some of Lamberts coaching staff were got rid of, for presumably bullying the overpaid, overweening, useless assholes in our first team squad?
yes it didnt take roy keane long to see what was going on , he told them a few home truths , they threw dummies out the pram so he fucked off

I think it was more a case that Keane had a book to flog, Joined Villa and chucked a few hand grenades in the dressing room before fucking off, leaving chaos behind him

Offline conman

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5153 on: February 26, 2016, 03:59:59 PM »
Is this why some of Lamberts coaching staff were got rid of, for presumably bullying the overpaid, overweening, useless assholes in our first team squad?
yes it didnt take roy keane long to see what was going on , he told them a few home truths , they threw dummies out the pram so he fucked off

I think it was more a case that Keane had a book to flog, Joined Villa and chucked a few hand grenades in the dressing room before fucking off, leaving chaos behind him
overpaid players on long contracts deciding when to make an effort or not was going on long before roy keane arrived at bodymoor heath and the current manager talking nicely to them wont change that either

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5154 on: February 26, 2016, 04:03:54 PM »
Is this why some of Lamberts coaching staff were got rid of, for presumably bullying the overpaid, overweening, useless assholes in our first team squad?
yes it didnt take roy keane long to see what was going on , he told them a few home truths , they threw dummies out the pram so he fucked off

I think it was more a case that Keane had a book to flog, Joined Villa and chucked a few hand grenades in the dressing room before fucking off, leaving chaos behind him
overpaid players on long contracts deciding when to make an effort or not was going on long before roy keane arrived at bodymoor heath and the current manager talking nicely to them wont change that either

I know that. I was saying that Keane went to Villa to raise his profile in order to sell more books, not to knock the player into shape.

Offline conman

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5155 on: February 26, 2016, 04:13:42 PM »
Is this why some of Lamberts coaching staff were got rid of, for presumably bullying the overpaid, overweening, useless assholes in our first team squad?
yes it didnt take roy keane long to see what was going on , he told them a few home truths , they threw dummies out the pram so he fucked off

I think it was more a case that Keane had a book to flog, Joined Villa and chucked a few hand grenades in the dressing room before fucking off, leaving chaos behind him
overpaid players on long contracts deciding when to make an effort or not was going on long before roy keane arrived at bodymoor heath and the current manager talking nicely to them wont change that either

I know that. I was saying that Keane went to Villa to raise his profile in order to sell more books, not to knock the player into shape.
His profile was high enough without Villa and i dont think his time here helped him sell many more extra copies

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5156 on: February 26, 2016, 04:14:04 PM »
Honestly that interview is fucking shocking.

Going down is bad enough, but it is almost easier to take if it was just down to them being shit. Not trying, not being committed to the point where the manager admits it publicly, just makes a shit situation so much worse.

To be honest, that interview is a shocking indictment of Garde's management abilities too.

He is throwing the player under a bus, fuck knows most of them deserve it.

But managers are supposed to manage, he must have no credibility in the dressing room at all.

I completely disagree. He can't help but be honest. He has integrity. If I'm a player, I want to play for a guy like that. He'd reward and respect effort and good faith. I really hope he stays on and successfully evicts those players pulling the club down. He's exactly what the club needs and needs to be backed.
I agree completely. Garde is intelligent, honest and strong. I really want him here for years to sort the team out.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5157 on: February 26, 2016, 04:15:04 PM »
Is this why some of Lamberts coaching staff were got rid of, for presumably bullying the overpaid, overweening, useless assholes in our first team squad?
yes it didnt take roy keane long to see what was going on , he told them a few home truths , they threw dummies out the pram so he fucked off

I think it was more a case that Keane had a book to flog, Joined Villa and chucked a few hand grenades in the dressing room before fucking off, leaving chaos behind him
overpaid players on long contracts deciding when to make an effort or not was going on long before roy keane arrived at bodymoor heath and the current manager talking nicely to them wont change that either

I know that. I was saying that Keane went to Villa to raise his profile in order to sell more books, not to knock the player into shape.
His profile was high enough without Villa and i dont think his time here helped him sell many more extra copies

He was in the press and on the telly every day when he was at Villa. You think he came to us to further his career?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5158 on: February 26, 2016, 04:26:00 PM »
If the players lack the integrity to deliver to their contracts, the manager will get big respect from the other squad members by dropping the wasters and playing others. I don't buy into the theory that the careers of callow youths will by destroyed by being involved now: it's a matter of it being positioned effectively, since - after all - it hardly like we're expecting them to keep us in the Premier League.

Rather, Garde would be showing faith and commitment to the future by picking players that want to play for the club now. He would be cementing his own role in the club. He would be sticking with his own principles. He would show faith in the fans.

No brainer, then!
« Last Edit: February 26, 2016, 06:08:38 PM by Mister E »

Offline conman

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5159 on: February 26, 2016, 04:35:45 PM »
Is this why some of Lamberts coaching staff were got rid of, for presumably bullying the overpaid, overweening, useless assholes in our first team squad?
yes it didnt take roy keane long to see what was going on , he told them a few home truths , they threw dummies out the pram so he fucked off

I think it was more a case that Keane had a book to flog, Joined Villa and chucked a few hand grenades in the dressing room before fucking off, leaving chaos behind him
overpaid players on long contracts deciding when to make an effort or not was going on long before roy keane arrived at bodymoor heath and the current manager talking nicely to them wont change that either

I know that. I was saying that Keane went to Villa to raise his profile in order to sell more books, not to knock the player into shape.
His profile was high enough without Villa and i dont think his time here helped him sell many more extra copies

He was in the press and on the telly every day when he was at Villa. You think he came to us to further his career?
no i think he accepted the job because  his mate lambert asked him and said he could be o neils assistant at Ireland at the same time

 


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