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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 942390 times)

Offline john e

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5115 on: February 25, 2016, 09:43:36 PM »
Unfortunatly Remi Garde won't be here next season IMO
Unfortunatly Mr Pearson will be IMO

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5116 on: February 25, 2016, 09:44:49 PM »
https://audioboom.com/boos/4227395-i-have-to-fight-everyday-to-find-the-right-words-to-make-them-committed?utm_campaign=detailpage&utm_content=retweet&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

He has an impossible task.
His final comment is damning.

The last minute or so of that interview sums up everything that is wrong with the rabble of a squad that we now have. How were we ever allowed to get to this position? >:(

I get that we've got some absolute arseholes in the squad, and that Garde has got an impossible job, but....

Should he really be calling the players out like that?  Is it going to help?  He stops just short of calling Lescott a liar, and then says that if he had options he wouldn't pick half of them, and that they're not showing any fight in training.  Such honesty can be admirable, but I don't think it's going to help him get anything extra out of our squad between now and the end of the season. The players seem to have mostly given up, but that interview for me sounds like Garde has sort of given up himself, in that he knows he won't be here after this season finishes.  I don't know, I'm probably way off line, but to me no matter how bad things get, the manager shouldn't be so brutally honest while there's still a mathematical chance of staying up.

You'd have to then argue that it's never the right thing to do, as any kind of threshold for it being acceptable has surely been smashed by this lot, with our last outing topping the lot.

You're probably right to be fair.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5117 on: February 25, 2016, 09:44:52 PM »
https://audioboom.com/boos/4227395-i-have-to-fight-everyday-to-find-the-right-words-to-make-them-committed?utm_campaign=detailpage&utm_content=retweet&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

He has an impossible task.
His final comment is damning.

The last minute or so of that interview sums up everything that is wrong with the rabble of a squad that we now have. How were we ever allowed to get to this position? >:(

I get that we've got some absolute arseholes in the squad, and that Garde has got an impossible job, but....

Should he really be calling the players out like that?  Is it going to help?  He stops just short of calling Lescott a liar, and then says that if he had options he wouldn't pick half of them, and that they're not showing any fight in training.  Such honesty can be admirable, but I don't think it's going to help him get anything extra out of our squad between now and the end of the season. The players seem to have mostly given up, but that interview for me sounds like Garde has sort of given up himself, in that he knows he won't be here after this season finishes.  I don't know, I'm probably way off line, but to me no matter how bad things get, the manager shouldn't be so brutally honest while there's still a mathematical chance of staying up.

Tough one though, isn't it? 

If he plays dial-a-cliche and talks about everyone fighting hard to stay up, he looks like a plum when we put in a performance like that travesty against the Redscouse. 
It makes sense not to burn your bridges completely and try to keep the bulk of the squad even vaguely onside, even the ones you aren't too keen on.

But other managers have done that and got nowhere, so maybe it needs someone to cut through the bluff and bluster.Houllier (for all his many, many faults) wanted to do that to an extent.  But I don't particularly think his commitment to the club was total even pre illness, so there is a lack of credibility there.

Roy Keane seemed to suss it out pretty quickly too, as uncomfortable as it was to hear.  "The problem at Villa is you have players who want praise for being able to put their boots on and tie their shoelaces."

Ability-wise, I don't think this is the worst side or even one of the three worse sides in the division. But there seems to be a casualness and can't be fucked attitude that runs right through the club from the very top.

There is a substantial rebuilding job to do. But from the sounds of it, Garde won't be the one doing it. 

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5118 on: February 25, 2016, 09:52:10 PM »
Unfortunatly Remi Garde won't be here next season IMO
Unfortunatly Mr Pearson will be IMO

I think this time next year we will be dreaming of the idea we could attract a manager as good as Garde or Pearson any more.






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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5119 on: February 25, 2016, 09:58:38 PM »
oh Dear, the circus used to always be B9

who wants to write our epitaph

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5120 on: February 25, 2016, 09:59:05 PM »
Unfortunatly Remi Garde won't be here next season IMO
Unfortunatly Mr Pearson will be IMO

I think this time next year we will be dreaming of the idea we could attract a manager as good as Garde or Pearson any more.







....we will when Steve Evans is announced as our latest new saviour!!

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5121 on: February 25, 2016, 10:01:36 PM »
Unfortunatly Remi Garde won't be here next season IMO
Unfortunatly Mr Pearson will be IMO

I think this time next year we will be dreaming of the idea we could attract a manager as good as Garde or Pearson any more.


The day we look enviously at someone like Nigel Pearson is the day we're looking for someone to knock down the North Stand using his head as wrecking ball.  Otherwise he can f¤¤k off.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5122 on: February 25, 2016, 11:02:45 PM »
Unfortunatly Remi Garde won't be here next season IMO
Unfortunatly Mr Pearson will be IMO

I think this time next year we will be dreaming of the idea we could attract a manager as good as Garde or Pearson any more.


The day we look enviously at someone like Nigel Pearson is the day we're looking for someone to knock down the North Stand using his head as wrecking ball.  Otherwise he can f¤¤k off.

Crane on standby then. :) I am just projecting into the future the past 5 years. I dont care for Pearson as a manager at all but from my perspective the options we will have to replace Garde will be far worse than we had to replace Lambert or Sherwood.

Hopefully Garde will be here as we happily sit top the table, but its hard to see such a positive outcome today.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5123 on: February 26, 2016, 01:07:48 AM »
https://audioboom.com/boos/4227395-i-have-to-fight-everyday-to-find-the-right-words-to-make-them-committed?utm_campaign=detailpage&utm_content=retweet&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

He has an impossible task.
His final comment is damning.

The last minute or so of that interview sums up everything that is wrong with the rabble of a squad that we now have. How were we ever allowed to get to this position? >:(

I get that we've got some absolute arseholes in the squad, and that Garde has got an impossible job, but....

Should he really be calling the players out like that?  Is it going to help?  He stops just short of calling Lescott a liar, and then says that if he had options he wouldn't pick half of them, and that they're not showing any fight in training.  Such honesty can be admirable, but I don't think it's going to help him get anything extra out of our squad between now and the end of the season. The players seem to have mostly given up, but that interview for me sounds like Garde has sort of given up himself, in that he knows he won't be here after this season finishes.  I don't know, I'm probably way off line, but to me no matter how bad things get, the manager shouldn't be so brutally honest while there's still a mathematical chance of staying up.

You'd have to then argue that it's never the right thing to do, as any kind of threshold for it being acceptable has surely been smashed by this lot, with our last outing topping the lot.

You're probably right to be fair.
Just to put a slightly different slant on it. He could be using these comments as a form of blackmail to get the players to at least put in some effort. He hasn't actually named players yet and maybe he has said to them that he will name and shame them. The chance of them picking up lucrative contracts in the future will diminish sharply if they are actually named by the manager as non triers. Whereas if they turn around the effort he may comment on them performing better.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5124 on: February 26, 2016, 06:38:11 AM »
I don't was told by an employee that after Liverpool, Gabby, Richards, Lescott and Westwood sat in the dressing long after the game, ridiculing and slagging the rest off, including Remi and his staff.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5125 on: February 26, 2016, 07:16:25 AM »
Unfortunatly Remi Garde won't be here next season IMO
Unfortunatly Mr Pearson will be IMO

I think this time next year we will be dreaming of the idea we could attract a manager as good as Garde or Pearson any more.

That's nonsense in my opinion. Despite the mess we're in, we're still a very big club and manager's would love the challenge putting us right.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5126 on: February 26, 2016, 07:19:10 AM »
I don't was told by an employee that after Liverpool, Gabby, Richards, Lescott and Westwood sat in the dressing long after the game, ridiculing and slagging the rest off, including Remi and his staff.
Im sure there are lots of players and player-cliques doing loads of slagging off. Perhaps there should be more taking some accountability for our current position and resolving to improve. I don't see any of either.
The bottom line is that Garde's impact has been limited and the same set of players are incapable of putting in points-winning performances.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5127 on: February 26, 2016, 07:44:53 AM »
What a mess and a complete insult to everyone one who actually gives a shit. That interview is so depressing to hear.

I wish our manager could rip up the contracts of anyone who is causing trouble, not giving their all and generally taking the piss. That would wipe the smug smile off their spoilt faces.

If I was running this club I'd trust Remi to completely overhaul the entire club from the academy right through to the first team. I really believe he could do it. I even reckon he would not need the huge finances to do it either like some mangers need.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5128 on: February 26, 2016, 07:49:56 AM »
https://audioboom.com/boos/4227395-i-have-to-fight-everyday-to-find-the-right-words-to-make-them-committed?utm_campaign=detailpage&utm_content=retweet&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

He has an impossible task.
His final comment is damning.

The last minute or so of that interview sums up everything that is wrong with the rabble of a squad that we now have. How were we ever allowed to get to this position? >:(

I get that we've got some absolute arseholes in the squad, and that Garde has got an impossible job, but....

Should he really be calling the players out like that?  Is it going to help?  He stops just short of calling Lescott a liar, and then says that if he had options he wouldn't pick half of them, and that they're not showing any fight in training.  Such honesty can be admirable, but I don't think it's going to help him get anything extra out of our squad between now and the end of the season. The players seem to have mostly given up, but that interview for me sounds like Garde has sort of given up himself, in that he knows he won't be here after this season finishes.  I don't know, I'm probably way off line, but to me no matter how bad things get, the manager shouldn't be so brutally honest while there's still a mathematical chance of staying up.

You'd have to then argue that it's never the right thing to do, as any kind of threshold for it being acceptable has surely been smashed by this lot, with our last outing topping the lot.

He has been here a while now though and perhaps he has exhausted all other approaches?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5129 on: February 26, 2016, 08:07:09 AM »
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Unfortunatly Remi Garde won't be here next season IMO
Unfortunatly Mr Pearson will be IMO

There is absolutely no way a board as conservative (little 'c' and big 'C') as ours is ever going to appoint anyone as outspoken/deranged as Nigel Pearson.

You're right about Garde though. Add to that Fox. And Reilly. And Almstadt.

Another summer of change/overhaul awaits.

 


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